The Create Unknown

Thanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: https://maingear.com/ref/656/Join Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecreateunknownAfter a much needed Thanksgiving rest, we are BACK to deliver another episode of RULES FOR LIFE. Every week on The Create Unknown we talk about Making Something and Meaning something, and in this episode, Kevin’s rule deals with exactly that.Everybody remembers the iconic line from Spiderman: “with great power comes great responsibility.” Turns out, as a creative, you also have a great responsibility to do just that: create. Kevin talks about his experience drawing cartoon potatoes in high school, and how revisiting that recently has generated so much hype.But what if you aren’t a creative person? Well, appreciating the art of others is definitely an art in itself. People like Rick Beato spend much more time appreciating their art than creating it, and there’s a reason they’re so successful. If there’s something you might not be able to do, appreciating it is sometimes just as great.There’s a big trap that people fall into when it comes to creativity, though. When you have a great idea in your head, it’s easy to want to jump right to the end of that plan – but you can’t. The best thing you can do is start small, and build from there. It’s a unique thing to have a creative mind, and it’s important to use it as best you can.We also tackle a harsh truth that almost no one wants to talk about: everyone truly is different. No two people think the same, or have the same set of skills. Our long time Baby Gang member Andy feels that he might fall short in the creative department and times, but he also literally FLIES PLANES. How many people can say they do that?We finish out with some questions from our patrons who want to know about the importance of disposable ideas, the comic to animation pipeline, and just how crucial Kevin’s unique lighting setup is to his creativity.Thank you to everyone who joined us for our return this week, and thank you to our patrons for your continued support in making this show happen. We’ve been having a lot of fun making these episodes, and we hope you can learn something from them. We’ll see you next week!You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: https://www.thedragonstreasure.com/Buy our T-shirts: https://www.thecreateunknown.com/store/Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: http://discord.gg/tcuApple: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownAppleSpotify: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotifyGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcastsCREDITS: Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor Produced and Edited by Ben Webster → https://twitter.com/benwebsterTCU "Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite  Theme by Mega Drive → http://megadrivemusic.com  Opening Animation: Kidmograph City Animation: Eric Langlay "The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media. CONNECT WITH US: » Chat with us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/qAQV3Jw  » Follow us on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/createunknown  » Follow us on INSTAGRAM: http://instagram.com/thecreateunknown  » Follow us on FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/thecreateunknown  » View our website: https://thecreateunknown.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Post your first job for FREE: linkedin.com/createThanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: https://maingear.com/ref/656/Join Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecreateunknownThis week we’re setting out to tackle a single question – who are you? What is it that makes you, you? On this installment of TCU’s Rules for Life, Matt’s got the answer for you, and it’s a deceptively simple one.There’s a good chance you have some misconceptions about your own identity. Oftentimes you might think it has a lot to do with what you believe, or what you think, but that’s just not the case. It’s what you actually DO that defines you. Even the results of what you do are less important than actually just doing the thing.This rule is a pretty powerful one, but it isn’t without its problems. We outline the biggest pitfall in trying this philosophy, and how easy it is to fall into. Just wanting to do something isn’t nearly the same as setting out to do it, and while things like video games, podcasts, and YouTube videos are great for enjoyment, odds are they’re not going to get you to where you need to go.Matt hates life hacks. Hates ‘em. And unless you’re Mark Cuban, you probably don’t need them. We do have a good alternative, though, and it’s something far more useful, especially if you’re in any kind of a bad place. Nothing gets your life back on track like working hard on yourself, and shortcuts won’t help that.Then we get a little grim, but for good reason. You may not think about it, but you are constantly writing your own obituary, and so is everybody else. When you’re gone, people can’t remember you for what you thought about, or for what you almost did. How could they? It’s the things you actually do that count.We borrow some wisdom from the KGB of all places, and how the people around you might just know you better than you do. Matt also gives us some of his bowling wisdom, and how important it is to take each day one “frame” at a time.We close out the episode with a couple questions from our patrons who get just as introspective as we do. How do you know if a decision is the right one? What if it is right, but it makes life harder?Thanks to everyone who joined us live this week, and a big thank you to our patrons who make this show happen. We’ll catch you all next week, same time, same place.You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: https://www.thedragonstreasure.com/Buy our T-shirts: https://www.thecreateunknown.com/store/Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: http://discord.gg/tcuApple: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownAppleSpotify: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotifyGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcastsCREDITS: Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor Produced and Edited by Ben Webster → https://twitter.com/benwebsterTCU "Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite  Theme by Mega Drive → http://megadrivemusic.com  Opening Animation: Kidmograph City Animation: Eric Langlay "The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media. CONNECT WITH US: » Chat with us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/qAQV3Jw  » Follow us on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/createunknown  » Follow us on INSTAGRAM: http://instagram.com/thecreateunknown  » Follow us on FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/thecreateunknown  » View our website: https://thecreateunknown.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: https://maingear.com/ref/656/Join Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecreateunknownIt’s pretty easy to take the everyday conveniences of life for granted, it’s something we all do. Alec from Technology Connections is here to fix that, and his fascination for the mundane is the source of some of YouTube’s best content to date.Alec’s insatiable curiosity illuminates the importance of humanity’s greatest inventions, the interconnectedness of the modern world, and why nobody cares about any of it. Matt and Kevin talk about their attempts to bring that curiosity to your TV set – something Bjork could tell you a lot about. We also figure out why Alec is the internet’s resident dishwasher expert, and how you’ve probably been using them wrong.Not all inventions are as perfect as they should be, though, and can openers are certainly behind the curve. Alec flexes his technological muscles by bringing us the can opener of the FUTURE. It turns out people really had “built a better mousetrap” to get you your Campbell’s soup, but nobody is using it yet.It’s easy to appreciate a great technological leap, especially when you can think of the alternative to using it. That gets a little tougher to do in the online era. Sure, the internet is amazing, but what is the alternative? What did the computer replace? Does Alec hate digital photographers? We just don’t know.We talk about so many of technology’s advancements, but the reality is that it’s slowing down. Kevin highlights the struggles that tech companies are having today, and we give consumers the credit they’re due for realizing when they’re being swindled. We also get deep into the supposed uselessness of the Metaverse, and how it does the opposite of what we all need right now.Our patrons close out the episode with some excellent questions for Alec about Tech Connections videos of the past, They Might Be Giants, and the never ending war of belts versus suspenders. Thanks to everyone who joined us for the live show, and a special shoutout to our patrons who make this show happen every week, you’re the best.Join us next week for another installment of TCU RULES FOR LIFE. See you there.You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: https://www.thedragonstreasure.com/Buy our T-shirts: https://www.thecreateunknown.com/store/Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: http://discord.gg/tcuApple: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownAppleSpotify: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotifyGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcastsCREDITS: Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor Produced and Edited by Ben Webster → https://twitter.com/benwebsterTCU "Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite  Theme by Mega Drive → http://megadrivemusic.com  Opening Animation: Kidmograph City Animation: Eric Langlay "The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media. CONNECT WITH US: » Chat with us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/qAQV3Jw  » Follow us on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/createunknown  » Follow us on INSTAGRAM: http://instagram.com/thecreateunknown  » Follow us on FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/thecreateunknown  » View our website: https://thecreateunknown.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: https://maingear.com/ref/656/Join Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecreateunknownThe world can be a tough place to get a handle on. But lucky for YOU, dear listener, Kevin Lieber’s got you covered with his rules for understanding it all. This episode we dive deep into one of those rules, and how a tweet about the alleged evils of the late Blockbuster Video started it all.Kevin kicks things off by talking about the futility of online rage, and how it’s often fueled by being completely wrong in the first place. Why do people get so mad, though? Is there even a reason to begin with? Is twitter the true culprit here?Matt gives us his hottest, spiciest, most cancellable take yet. He’s got some opinions on small business, and he’s tired of playing the world’s worst game of fiscal charades. He also clues us into the economic appendage that small businesses ACTUALLY represent. In his worldly wisdom, Kevin has some real solutions for the “twitter rage conundrum.” We talk about the nuance that most issues have, and how assuming you understand their complexities is a big mistake. You know what they say about assuming – don’t. We also take some wisdom from the philanthropy of U2’s Bono, and how he came to a similar realization.To round things out, we boil it all down to one simple rule: if someone is angry over something, that doesn’t always mean they know what they’re talking about.Thanks to everybody who listened in live this week, and a big thanks to all our Patrons who make this show happen. We couldn’t do it without you. Next week is Technology Connections, we’ll see you there.You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: https://www.thedragonstreasure.com/Buy our T-shirts: https://www.thecreateunknown.com/store/Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: http://discord.gg/tcuApple: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownAppleSpotify: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotifyGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcastsCREDITS: Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor Produced and Edited by Ben Webster → https://twitter.com/benwebsterTCU "Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite  Theme by Mega Drive → http://megadrivemusic.com  Opening Animation: Kidmograph City Animation: Eric Langlay "The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media. CONNECT WITH US: » Chat with us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/qAQV3Jw  » Follow us on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/createunknown  » Follow us on INSTAGRAM: http://instagram.com/thecreateunknown  » Follow us on FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/thecreateunknown  » View our website: https://thecreateunknown.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Post your first job for FREE: linkedin.com/createThanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: https://maingear.com/ref/656/Join Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecreateunknownIn the year 2022, very few of YouTube’s founding creators remain at the top of their craft – Ian Hecox is the exception. Through some poorly aged content, hairy legal battles, and a departure of one of their main personalities, Smosh remains resolute, and they owe a lot of that to their incredible fans. Ian also walks us through keeping Smosh’s content fresh, and his tried-and-true mentality on being a creator. His Rocky Balboa-like endurance has kept him passionate for seventeen wonderful years of content, proving to us all that it truly is more of a marathon than a sprint.Kevin and Ian reminisce on the “good ole days” of YouTube, getting retrospective about the so-called sellouts of the time and how they stack up to their RAID: Shadow Legends counterparts of now. Ian may finally have convinced people that being a YouTuber is a legitimate, viable career, but Kevin hasn’t had the same luck, and he tells us that he’s still fighting that good fight.If you were on YouTube back in 2012, you probably remember the “grand promise” that creators were given. We talk about the ludicrous amount of money being thrown at YouTube in those days, and the relationship it has to the hype of today’s esports. MCN’s may have sounded enticing to some creators back in the day, but Ian exposes the truly bad business model they were built on. Creators have much more business acumen now than ever, and companies like Mythical Entertainment who acquired Smosh are proof.We round out the Smosh discussion by celebrating the team of almost 40 employees at the company now, and by finding out just what Ian does on a day-to-day basis. While he spends a lot of time flexing his business muscles, that hasn’t sapped his love for being on camera. He also explains the difficulty of putting a mission statement together for a channel like Smosh, and more importantly, how their previous employers failed.Our Patrons join us to ask Ian about some of Smosh’s misunderstood projects, early regrets, and his favorite videos of yesteryear. It was an absolute pleasure having Ian on to get some insight into the real business of being a creator. He is living proof of the importance of so many values we talk about here on The Create Unknown, and we can’t wait to see what the next seventeen years will bring.Thank you to all who joined us for the live show this week, and a huge shout out to our Patrons – you make this show happen. Next week: a Matt and Kevin guide to understanding the world. Be there!You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: https://www.thedragonstreasure.com/Buy our T-shirts: https://www.thecreateunknown.com/store/Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: http://discord.gg/tcuApple: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownAppleSpotify: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotifyGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcastsCREDITS: Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor Produced and Edited by Ben Webster → https://twitter.com/benwebsterTCU "Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite  Theme by Mega Drive → http://megadrivemusic.com  Opening Animation: Kidmograph City Animation: Eric Langlay "The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media. CONNECT WITH US: » Chat with us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/qAQV3Jw  » Follow us on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/createunknown  » Follow us on INSTAGRAM: http://instagram.com/thecreateunknown  » Follow us on FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/thecreateunknown  » View our website: https://thecreateunknown.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: https://maingear.com/ref/656/Join Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecreateunknownIt’s not easy to put a label on Bobby Duke. Is he an artist? A creator? 1,000 words fit his work, and they all seem to be appropriate. Whether it’s a giant sculpture or turning a normal pencil into a chain link non-pencil, Bobby can envision it and then do it – and it all started with a whittled dagger.Kevin’s theory of artistic and musical parents continues to be true, which is why Bobby is both an accomplished artist and a capable video editor. Bobby has a lot on his plate though, including juggling an addictive personality that’s affected his work. He goes into fantastic detail not just about how he schedules and segments his work now, but also why he has to do it (and what happens when he doesn’t). Matt tells his story about having to work from bed 6 months ago to hauling rocks after a work day now, while Bobby gets down to brass tacks with a dose of reality: things are going to be bad sometimes, and there are constant opportunities to stray from the path you need to be on. Flexibility is a double-edged sword that’s both amazing and ruinous, and Bobby gets a little closer to mastering that each day. Putting your phone down helps.We recognize that it’s easier to process these tradeoffs and make wiser decisions – and also know when we haven’t – when we’re older, but how do you help a younger creative go about their work and life optimally? Well… it’s not as easy as just telling them. Kevin might have a solution: convince young people to treat themselves as if they’re important, which they are. Patrons hop in to ask about forbidden builds, balancing art with its visual presentation, and Bobby’s day to day inspirations. This was a FANTASTIC episode about the reality of being a creator – which, honestly, is usually at the crux of what someone makes. Harnessing talent and creating the conditions for that talent to function might actually be more important.Thanks to everyone who came out for the live show, and a special thanks to the Patrons who make this show happen each and every week. Next week, Ian Hecox from SMOSH!You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: https://www.thedragonstreasure.com/Buy our T-shirts: https://www.thecreateunknown.com/store/Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: http://discord.gg/tcuApple: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownAppleSpotify: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotifyGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcastsCREDITS: Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor Produced and Edited by Ben Webster → https://twitter.com/benwebsterTCU "Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite  Theme by Mega Drive → http://megadrivemusic.com  Opening Animation: Kidmograph City Animation: Eric Langlay "The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media. CONNECT WITH US: » Chat with us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/qAQV3Jw  » Follow us on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/createunknown  » Follow us on INSTAGRAM: http://instagram.com/thecreateunknown  » Follow us on FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/thecreateunknown  » View our website: https://thecreateunknown.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: https://maingear.com/ref/656/Join Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecreateunknownWhen we first met NileRed several years ago, we talked about making moonshine out of toilet paper. A few months later, he’d actually figured out how to do it. No one makes chemistry more interesting or engaging than Nigel, and his experiments run the range from scientific to absurd. But which is more satisfying, creating or destroying?We quickly descend into the depths of the important stuff: dissolving bodies with chemicals. And it’s actually a bit tougher to do at scale than it seems from Nigel’s food dissolving videos. Despite not having released a main channel video in 7 months, he’s been busier than ever – so busy that he might just run out of science.Nigel offers some of the best creative advice we’ve ever had on TCU, which is to avoid getting too far ahead of yourself. He says it’s like getting a gym membership to inspire (really, force) yourself to actually go to the gym. Matt points out that even if this works, it’s usually not an organic result that’ll stick. Do you need a $2,000 budget to get started in chemistry? Probably not.Nigel goes into his past and how he arrived at today – a combination of academic work, disillusionment with formal chemistry study, and figuring out how to edit videos. Kevin senses a strain of music in NileRed videos… and it turns out that he’s right.After Kevin’s tale of a bizarre coworker, Patrons launch into questions about specific elements/chemical processes, the power of the Green Weenie, what to do with $20 at Walmart, and specialization in chemistry.Nigel is one of the sharpest, most talented people we’ve ever met (and he’s got one of the best voices), and everyone who came out for the live show witnessed it firsthand. A special thanks to all our Patrons who make this show possible each and every week. You really are the best. Next week, Bobby Duke! You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: https://www.thedragonstreasure.com/Buy our T-shirts: https://www.thecreateunknown.com/store/Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: http://discord.gg/tcuApple: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownAppleSpotify: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotifyGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcastsCREDITS: Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor Produced and Edited by Ben Webster → https://twitter.com/benwebsterTCU "Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite  Theme by Mega Drive → http://megadrivemusic.com  Opening Animation: Kidmograph City Animation: Eric Langlay "The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media. CONNECT WITH US: » Chat with us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/qAQV3Jw  » Follow us on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/createunknown  » Follow us on INSTAGRAM: http://instagram.com/thecreateunknown  » Follow us on FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/thecreateunknown  » View our website: https://thecreateunknown.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: https://maingear.com/ref/656/Join Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecreateunknownJabrils is more than grilled cheese. He’s uniquely positioned to weigh in on everything from what artificial intelligence will do for us – and to us – in the future, to how technology affects our basic humanity. The most pressing major effect seems to be increased loneliness among young people. What is fundamentally different about online interactions?Entropy guides Jabrils’ thoughts, with the good and the bad bouncing around to create a sense of order. It sounds like we need a healthy balance of both – otherwise it’s too easy to create silos of personality which lure us in like the sirens, and then crash us on the rocks of being an NPC.Jabrils reminds us that all of this is at the core an endeavor stemming from human creations, whether it’s data sets or algorithms. What happens when a self-driving Tesla meets a horse and buggy?If AI and tech depends on what we feed into it, everything from languages to marginal personalities and cultures is probably on their way out. Is that a vote for or against a mosquito eradication? And what about the panda volcels?We jump into a philosophical discussion about what constitutes AI art, and whether providing prompts for software is actually creative. Is DALL-E art? Will we get a DALL-E for music? After talking a bit of sportsball, Jabrils explains that he’ll always be relevant because we need people to understand all this information and apply it on a practical level – and that education is what will prevent a dystopian future. We wrap up with simple, powerful advice: try everything, and don’t be afraid to be wrong. Thanks to everyone who came out for the live show – we had an amazing time doing a very unique episode with Jabrils, a little heavier on the philosophical than we’re used to. And a special thanks to the Patrons who make this show happen each and every week. You really are the best.You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: https://www.thedragonstreasure.com/Buy our T-shirts: https://www.thecreateunknown.com/store/Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: http://discord.gg/tcuApple: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownAppleSpotify: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotifyGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcastsCREDITS: Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor Produced and Edited by Ben Webster → https://twitter.com/benwebsterTCU "Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite  Theme by Mega Drive → http://megadrivemusic.com  Opening Animation: Kidmograph City Animation: Eric Langlay "The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media. CONNECT WITH US: » Chat with us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/qAQV3Jw  » Follow us on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/createunknown  » Follow us on INSTAGRAM: http://instagram.com/thecreateunknown  » Follow us on FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/thecreateunknown  » View our website: https://thecreateunknown.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: https://maingear.com/ref/656/Join Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecreateunknownWe’ve got a problem with “Quiet Quitting,” which is the tactic of doing the absolute bare minimum at a job as a form of protest and to preserve both energy and sanity due to feelings of exploitation. Kevin thinks the exact opposite is the way forward – but are there circumstances in which quiet quitting is a good idea?Kevin’s first major realization came from Conan O’Brien: his advice was to engage in Quiet Grinding. Do your job, work hard, be reliable, and someone will notice… just like the chicken wing quiet grinder who ended up facilitating a restaurant’s expansion and managing its new location.Last week we talked to Ben, who got where he is because he engaged in Quiet Grinding. And 25 years ago, Matt hand-polished over 4,000 copper tacks one by one without complaint. Kevin breaks it down to two big questions: Can you be trusted, and are you disciplined enough?It’s true that Quiet Quitting is often tied to a failure of management, but you’ve got to care about you and your own performance. If you can control it, take pride in it. Resentment is not going to help.And let’s be honest: you’ve got time. Almost every single person has double-digit hours of free time each week, and that’s even after factoring in 10 hours of gaming. Chances are, if you make good decisions with your time, you’ve got 20 or 30 hours a week to work on your passion projects. Stop talking, start doing – and all it takes is a 10% boost.Patrons ask about whether it’s possible to do too much Quiet Grinding, and we question the terminology of the grind. We’ve got the rest of the year to come up with a better term, and we’re fairly sure that Stallone or Schwarzenegger have the right answer.We had a great time hanging out with everyone for the live show, and it was an excellent followup to last week’s conversation with Ben. Thanks again to our Patrons, who really do make this show happen each and every week. Onward to Jabrils!You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: https://www.thedragonstreasure.com/Buy our T-shirts: https://www.thecreateunknown.com/store/Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: http://discord.gg/tcuApple: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownAppleSpotify: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotifyGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcastsCREDITS: Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor Produced and Edited by Ben Webster → https://twitter.com/benwebsterTCU "Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite  Theme by Mega Drive → http://megadrivemusic.com  Opening Animation: Kidmograph City Animation: Eric Langlay "The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media. CONNECT WITH US: » Chat with us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/qAQV3Jw  » Follow us on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/createunknown  » Follow us on INSTAGRAM: http://instagram.com/thecreateunknown  » Follow us on FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/thecreateunknown  » View our website: https://thecreateunknown.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Post your first job FREE: https://linkedin.com/createThanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: https://maingear.com/ref/656/Join Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecreateunknownYou’d better like Unknown Sausage, because Producer Ben Webster is here to explain how it’s made. We’ve wanted to do an episode with Ben for a while because his story is pretty interesting – and he’s blended the traditional education route with hands-on work with us.Ben had a tough decision to make when it came to going to school. First off, was it even worth it? And if so, did it make sense to wait until in-person classes returned to normal? He ended up going to one of the best communications schools in the world – and it’s the same one Matt did programs at in HTML and newspaper layout in the 1990s. What started as handling a few terminally online tasks for TCU turned into a full-fledged producer and editor role with us. That behind-the-scenes role is extremely important, since it allows talent to be talent. But how important is it to know how to do a thing yourself before outsourcing it to the Bens of the world?Making stuff is hard, but making stuff reliably is REALLY hard. Ben dealt with a bonkers living situation to hit every deadline for the podcast – and that’s a major reason why we committed to working with him over others in the tremendous network of people we know. Scheduling works both ways, though, and even the people who want to create with spontaneous energy need to have some structure. Ben goes through a full example of a fake horror podcast – ‘The Spooking Hour,’ as Charles Khan decided – from having the idea to executing it to improving it. He outlines a clear, sensible process that’s a mix of what he’s picked up in school and what he’s seen working with us and Real Weird Sickos. It’s an excellent process for any online project.None of us know what Ben will be up to in 5 years, but we do agree with him that interesting people are always trying to get better at something – and it doesn’t even matter what it is. If someone doesn’t have any ambitions at all, turn and run. We had a great time during the live episode (aside from Matt’s technical glitches in the new setup), and thanks to both the Patrons who make this show happen each and every week and to Maingear for kicking off what’s soon to be an epic recording studio. You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: https://www.thedragonstreasure.com/Buy our T-shirts: https://www.thecreateunknown.com/store/Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: http://discord.gg/tcuApple: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownAppleSpotify: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotifyGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcastsCREDITS: Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor Produced and Edited by Ben Webster → https://twitter.com/benwebsterTCU "Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite  Theme by Mega Drive → http://megadrivemusic.com  Opening Animation: Kidmograph City Animation: Eric Langlay "The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media. CONNECT WITH US: » Chat with us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/qAQV3Jw  » Follow us on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/createunknown  » Follow us on INSTAGRAM: http://instagram.com/thecreateunknown  » Follow us on FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/thecreateunknown  » View our website: https://thecreateunknown.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices