
Future U Podcast - The Pulse of Higher Ed
Jeff Selingo and Michael Horn discuss what’s next for higher education and talk with the newsmakers you want to hear from most. Find the latest news and insights into the current trends in higher ed on the Future U. Podcast.
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Aug 6, 2024 • 44min
Rerun: The Future of the Ph.D.
Hosts Jeff Selingo and Michael Horn are joined by Dr. Len Cassuto, an author and professor at Fordham University, and focus their conversation on the role of PhD students and what the challenges in that part of academia might mean for higher ed. They dive into the subjects that Len explores in his new book, The New PhD: How to Build a Better Graduate Education, such as the changes that should be made to better prepare PhD students for their careers, and how universities might be exploiting free labor from students under the guise of an academic apprenticeship. The episode is sponsored by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and Ascendium Education Group.Links MentionedThe New PhD: How to Build a Better Graduate EducationKey Moments(0:00) - Intro(3:19) - The state of PhD programs and graduate education.(8:16) - Improving graduate education.(13:25) - Ph.D. education and career diversity.(19:03) - Graduate education and labor costs in higher education.(26:20) - Preparing PhDs for career diversity and addressing challenges in higher education.(38:33) - Redesigning PhD programs for a changing academic landscape.

Jul 30, 2024 • 42min
Rerun: How Small Schools Can Thrive As Higher Ed Changes
In this rerun from episode 150, Jeff Selingo welcomes Lynn Perry Wooten, President of Simmons University, for a conversation on the unique position of smaller universities in higher education. They discuss some vital concerns facing smaller universities like Simmons, such as combining less popular liberal arts majors, combatting dropping college enrollment numbers, and embracing online education programs. The episode is sponsored by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and Ascendium Education Group.Links MentionedStrategies for Digital TransformationKey Moments(0:00) - Intro(4:10) - Small college challenges and strategic planning(11:51) - Small college competitiveness and online education(19:58) - Leadership and collaboration in higher education(21:31) - Higher education leadership and decision-making(27:00) - Higher education data analysis and institutional growth(32:42) - Online education and revenue diversification at Simmons College

Jul 23, 2024 • 50min
Rerun: The Role of Higher Ed in the American Dream
New York Times columnist and author David Leonhardt discusses his new book, “Ours Was The Shining Future: The Story of the American Dream." In his conversation with Michael and Jeff, they talk about the impact of the high-school movement on the U.S. economy last century, what a similar higher ed movement might look like in this century, and why the value of the college is being questioned. The episode is sponsored by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and Ascendium Education Group.

Jul 16, 2024 • 31min
Rerun: Leveraging Apprenticeship to Bolster the Rural Talent Pipeline
In too many rural areas, workers lack access to affordable training pathways to high-quality jobs. Jeff and Michael sit down with Mallory Dwinal-Palisch, Chancellor of Reach University, to learn about how Reach is addressing this challenge with an apprenticeship approach to teacher education. In the first of this two-part conversation, they discuss the theory and practice that informed Reach’s founding and the college’s innovative enrollment, training, and funding models. Michael considers how Reach’s clear focus helps keep their costs low, and Jeff discusses the importance of career-connected learning. The episode is sponsored by Ascendium Education Group.LinksAscendium Education GroupKey Moments(0:00) - Intro(2:45) - Innovative higher education model(4:57) - Rural teacher shortages and innovative solutions(8:28) - The importance of experience in education(11:54) - Alternative university model for teacher certification(17:57) - Education and career development(23:38) - Innovative teacher education model for rural areas

Jul 9, 2024 • 49min
Rerun: The Future of Online Ed
Jeff and Michael are joined by the CEOs of Academic Partnerships, Fernando Bleichmar, and Coursera, Jeff Maggioncalda, to talk about the future of online learning, including a new study on ROI, the role of degrees vs. credentials in the job market, and what AI will mean for online ed. This episode is sponsored by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and Ascendium Education Group.Key Moments00:00 - Intro04:58 - ROI of Online Programs at Universities10:45 - Online Education and Pricing with Coursera and Academic Partners16:04 - Future of Higher Education Partnerships21:01 - Online learning, Certifications, and Their Value in the Job Market26:27 - The Impact of AI on Higher Education.33:17 - Higher Education Innovation And Online Learning36:42 - Disruptive Innovation In Higher Education With A Focus On Pricing40:29 - Higher Ed Partnerships And Their Impact On The Future Of Online Education47:09 - Education and Government RegulationLinks We MentionedAcademic Partnerships Report on ROI

Jun 26, 2024 • 20min
Season 7 Wrap Up
In this season 7 wrap-up episode of Future U., Jeff and Michael go to a rapid-fire format and break down six topics in higher education: recent enrollment trends, the state of online education and OPMs, the ongoing FAFSA issues, campus protests related to the Israel-Hamas conflict, the increasing focus on value in higher education, and recent developments in compensating college athletes. This episode is made possible with support from Ascendium Education Group and the Gates Foundation.Season 8 Planning Surveyhttps://bit.ly/3Xtcfd0Relevant LinksThe Great MisalignmentKey Moments(00:00) Enrollment Challenges and the Future of Higher Education(07:06) The Growth of Online Education and Challenges in the OPM Market(09:23) The Long-Term Impact of FAFSA on Enrollment and Financial Aid(10:48) Campus Protests: A Continuing Issue in Higher Education(13:07) Blending High School and College: Creating Value in Education(16:02) The NCAA Settlement and the Future of College Athletics

Jun 18, 2024 • 45min
The Competency-Based Approach to Validating Learning in Higher Ed
Learning is at the heart of higher ed’s purpose, but how many institutions have a strong sense of the skills and knowledge students are gaining? On this episode, Michael and Jeff welcome two innovators helping colleges to better validate student learning through competency-based education (CBE): Amber Garrison Duncan of the Competency Based Education Network and Kelle Parsons of the American Institutes of Research. They discuss the benefits that this learning and assessment system accrues to students and institutions, the how and why of syncing skills certification with employer needs, and the institutions leading the way on implementation. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.Season 8 Planning Surveyhttps://bit.ly/3Xtcfd0Relevant LinksOn Prior Learning Assessment/Credit for Prior Learning: CAEL: The PLA BoostAIR Informing Improved Recognition of Military LearningCBE & Skills Based Practices Brief: AIR Same Idea, Different Evolution: Skills-Based Practices and CBEOther CBE & Skills Based Practices ResearchAIR Measuring Skills at Work: Lessons from the FieldAIR Postsecondary CBE Program Model Mapping ToolAIR 2020 National Survey of Postsecondary CBEKey Moments(00:00) Introduction: The Value and Challenges of Higher Education(06:14) Defining Competency-Based Education and the Role of Assessment(11:17) Recognizing Prior Learning and the Benefits of CBE(27:02) Institutions and Organizations Leading the Way in CBE

Jun 4, 2024 • 39min
On the Board: The Role of Trustees in Higher Ed
Boards of Trustees are the principal governing bodies of higher ed institutions, but they can also be the furthest from their day-to-day operations. So how can colleges best leverage their leadership? To tackle this question, Michael and Jeff welcome Chris Romer and Jane Scaccetti, trustees from the boards of Colorado Mountain College and Temple University, respectively. They discuss the Board’s role in improving the value proposition of higher ed, engaging communities, representing stakeholders, and handling crises. They also discuss what boards need to do all of this most effectively. This episode is made with support from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.Surveyhttps://bit.ly/3Xtcfd0Chapters0:00 - Intro4:00 - Path to Becoming a Trustee6:25 - Perspective of Trustees on the Value of Higher Ed11:16 - Strategic Planning and Informed Support for Trustees18:00 - The Complexities of Higher Education GovernanceLinks We MentionAssociation of Governing Boards of Universities and Colleges

May 21, 2024 • 36min
When College is About the Job
Terrell Dunn, a higher education specialist, discusses the shift towards job-focused college experiences, the importance of job guarantees, integrating work experiences into curriculum, and colleges explaining their value for student support.

May 7, 2024 • 28min
Measuring the True Value of Community Colleges
Jeff and Michael examine the complex world of community colleges and challenge traditional notions of success. Drawing from recent research by Strada Education Foundation, they explore the multifaceted roles these institutions play in students' lives and the importance of looking beyond degree completion rates to assess their true value. With insights from Strada’s Senior Vice President, Dave Clayton, this episode offers a fresh perspective on the value of community colleges and their vital role in empowering students personally and economically in the 21st century. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.Season 8 Planning Surveyhttps://bit.ly/3Xtcfd0Key Moments00:00 Intro02:44 Motivations for Enrolling in Community Colleges04:42 The Role of Employers in Assessing Community Colleges07:00 Measuring Success Beyond Getting a Better Job10:21 Challenges in Fulfilling Career Motivations19:14 Measuring Value Based on Students' Goals and Outcomes21:08 The Need for a True Unit Record System in Higher Education