Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl

Mike Patterson and Emily Vides are the couple behind of Small Change brewing in Massachusetts. The contract brewery turned three earlier this month and in the time it has been distributing beer it has gained a strong reputation for reliable and flavorful ales, including styles that are often overlooked, like milds. It's a story of a homebrewer who went pro, but also of collaboration, artistic expression, communication, music, and harmony. From navigating the pandemic and customer interaction over zoom, to thinking about how can labels are really like album cover art, spend some time with this Massachusetts-based brewery that is doing its part to add to the beer industry.  This Episode is sponsored by:NZ HopsHarvest has officially ended in New Zealand and there are exciting hops to choose from, including Nelson Sauvin, Motueka, Riwaka, and the newest hop in the lineup, Nectaron®. The white wine, stone fruit, and tropical fruit notes layered with pine, citrus, and herbal notes offer a range of flavors unlike any growing region in the world. Learn more about what they can do for your beers by visiting nzhops.co.nz or finding NZ Hops on social media. BriessBriess is the original craft maltster, and currently offers the broadest product line in the industry. Briess’ barley is grown in the Bighorn Basin of Wyoming and Montana, where warm days, cool nights, and floodwater irrigation yield some of the highest quality barley in the U.S.Athletic Brewing Co.At Athletic Brewing Company their innovative process allows them to brew great-tasting craft beer without the alcohol. From IPAs to stouts to golden ales and more, they offer a full selection of beers starting at only 50 calories. Now you can keep your head clear and enjoy the refreshing taste of beer anytime, anywhere. Place an order today at athleticbrewing.com and get free shipping on two six-packs or more.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Emily Vides and Mike Patterson of Small Change BrewingSponsors: Briess Malt and Ingredient Co., NZ Hops, Athletic Brewing Co., The Beer EdgeTags: Beer, Contract Brewing, Mild, Pale Ale, Massachusetts, Art, Music

Notes from host John Holl:"A few weeks ago I headed down to Asheville, North Carolina for a few days to help out with photography on a new book I’ve been working on. I didn’t have a lot of time for social or other visits, but I made it a point to make my first stop in the state at Zebulon Artisan Ales.  Mike Karnowski is the man in and behind the brewery, it’s a small haven he started after a career brewing for others, and that started out running a homebrewing shop. Here at the brewery he does things his way, but also with historical accuracy and reverence.  Over the years he’s worked with beer historians to release period-accurate beers that really offer a snapshot in time and reveal long forgotten flavors and how beer has evolved.  A few weeks ago on the show with Em Sauter and Don Tse we were talking about date coding beer styles, and that’s something Mike is doing. You’ll even had a chance to try them for yourself soon enough.  We sat down at his taproom bar on a day when he’s usually closed. It was a brew day, and he’d already been at it for hours."This Episode is sponsored by: BriessBriess is the original craft maltster, and currently offers the broadest product line in the industry. Briess’ barley is grown in the Bighorn Basin of Wyoming and Montana, where warm days, cool nights, and floodwater irrigation yield some of the highest quality barley in the U.S.NZ HopsHarvest has officially ended in New Zealand and there are exciting hops to choose from, including Nelson Sauvin, Motueka, Riwaka, and the newest hop in the lineup, Nectaron®. The white wine, stone fruit, and tropical fruit notes layered with pine, citrus, and herbal notes offer a range of flavors unlike any growing region in the world. Learn more about what they can do for your beers by visiting nzhops.co.nz or finding NZ Hops on social media. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Michael Karnowski of Zebulon Artisan AlesSponsors: Briess Malt and Ingredient Co., NZ Hops, The Beer EdgeTags: Beer, Hops, Bottles, History, IPA, North Carolina

This week on the show the head brewer, co-founder, and co-owner of Zillicoah Brewing in North Carolina talks about lagers, homebrewing and how the brewery survived COVID-19. John Parks talks about brewing the kind of beer he likes to drink, how the brewery fits into the greater Asheville brewing scene, and their transition into bottles. This episode was recorded on location. BriessBriess is the original craft maltster, and currently offers the broadest product line in the industry. Briess’ barley is grown in the Bighorn Basin of Wyoming and Montana, where warm days, cool nights, and floodwater irrigation yield some of the highest quality barley in the U.S. NZ HopsIn a little country far down in the Pacific, you’ll find a cooperative of Master Growers, whose legend and cultivars have been crafted for over 150 years, with creativity and passion, to produce some of the world’s finest hops. This is NZ Hops. The industry originated in 1843 not long after the early settlers arrived from England. Years of partnership with a dedicated hop breeding program, and farming knowledge handed down through the generations, sees the current day Master Growers proudly providing 18 unique New Zealand hop varieties to the world.Athletic Brewing Co.At Athletic Brewing Company their innovative process allows them to brew great-tasting craft beer without the alcohol. From IPAs to stouts to golden ales and more, they offer a full selection of beers starting at only 50 calories. Now you can keep your head clear and enjoy the refreshing taste of beer anytime, anywhere. Place an order today at athleticbrewing.com and get free shipping on two six-packs or more.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: John ParksSponsors: Briess Malt and Ingredient Co., NZ Hops, Athletic Brewing Co., The Beer EdgeTags: Beer, Hops, Bottles, Lager, Covid-19, Barrels, North Carolina

Should beer styles be date coded? What did Europeans of the 1800s really dress like? Is there an excellent whisky we should be drinking? This week host John Holl finished the first draft of a manuscript for his next book and his mental state is... fried. So, he called up two friends to help get back into the world. Em Sauter of Pints and Panels and Don Tse, a malt enthusiast, Zoom into the show for support, laughs, and to tackle the important questions in beer today. This episode is sponsored by:Source Brewing Co.Source Brewing is looking to award a diversity and inclusion scholarship to a candidate from a diverse background who may otherwise underrepresented in the craft brewing industry. The recipient of the scholarship will have the opportunity to take the  Siebel Concise Course in Brewing Technology and possibly receive a paid internship at the brewery. Send an email expressing your interest in the scholarship to Info@sourcebrewing.com or to seek additional information.  NZ HopsIn a little country far down in the Pacific, you’ll find a cooperative of Master Growers, whose legend and cultivars have been crafted for over 150 years, with creativity and passion, to produce some of the world’s finest hops. This is NZ Hops. The industry originated in 1843 not long after the early settlers arrived from England. Years of partnership with a dedicated hop breeding programme, and farming knowledge handed down through the generations, sees the current day Master Growers proudly providing 18 unique New Zealand hop varieties to the world.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Em Sauter and Don TseSponsors:  NZ Hops, Source Brewing, The Beer EdgeTags: Beer, Hops, Lager, Pale Ale, Pilsner, Glassware, Beer Garden, COVID-19, Canada, Books, Art 

Show notes from host John Holl:"There are some remarkable beers coming out of Fair Isle in Seattle, delightful farmhouse inspired ales that play heavy into culinary inspiration, time in wood or stainless, and a house culture that brings some wonderful characteristics to each beer.  Andrew Pogue and Geoffrey Barker co-founded the brewery a few years ago and have worked to bring some of the niche beers that speak to them as drinkers,  creators, and artists, to the local beer scene. Judging by the following they’ve amassed, I’d say it’s working.  In many of their creations there is a deft use of local fruits or foraged ingredients.  They rely on specialty malts from artisanal farms, and an in-house and creative streak to bring familiar yet distinct flavors to each bottle.  Because there are three of us we recorded over zoom, so there’s the usual technology bothers that come up now and again. Apologies.  Bonus: be listening for a smoky beer shower." This episode is sponsored by:NZ HopsIn a little country far down in the Pacific, you’ll find a cooperative of Master Growers, whose legend and cultivars have been crafted for over 150 years, with creativity and passion, to produce some of the world’s finest hops. This is NZ Hops. The industry originated in 1843 not long after the early settlers arrived from England. Years of partnership with a dedicated hop breeding program, and farming knowledge handed down through the generations, sees the current day Master Growers proudly providing 18 unique New Zealand hop varieties to the world.Athletic Brewing Co.At Athletic Brewing Company their innovative process allows them to brew great-tasting craft beer without the alcohol. From IPAs to stouts to golden ales and more, they offer a full selection of beers starting at only 50 calories. Now you can keep your head clear and enjoy the refreshing taste of beer anytime, anywhere. Place an order today at athleticbrewing.com and get free shipping on two six-packs or more.Rare Beer ClubUnlike any other beer club, The Rare Beer Club often works with breweries like Lost Abbey, The Bruery, and American Solera to create craft beers made exclusively for members.  They also bring in hard to find and exclusively imported selections such as Fantome’s Magic Ghost and Westvleteren XII. Their Personalized shipment program allow members to customize each shipment and skip beers you don’t want to get. Get 50% off your first shipment when you sign up for an open-ended ongoing membership at beermonthclub.com and use promo code: DrinkRareBeer. (2 shipment minimum).For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuests: Geoffrey Barker & Andrew PogueSponsors: Athletic Brewing Co., NZ Hops, The Rare Beer Club The Beer EdgeTags: Beer, Hops, Saison, Farmhouse, Fruit, Barrels,  

From the time he started as a professional brewer Sean Burke has been on the brewing deck spearheading some of Portland Oregon’s best and exciting breweries, including The Commons and Von Ebert Brewing Co.  He made headlines last summer when he announced that he was heading out to open his own brewery, in McMinnville, Oregon that would eventually become known as ForeLand Beer. It opened in the pandemic but Burke has used his experience to guide the business and his team. He sees a little bit of hope on the horizon for this brewery that has repeatedly had to adapt before its doors even opened.  This episode is sponsored by:Source Brewing Co. Source Brewing is looking to award a diversity and inclusion scholarship to a candidate from a diverse background who may otherwise underrepresented in the craft brewing industry. The recipient of the scholarship will have the opportunity to take the  Siebel Concise Course in Brewing Technology and possibly receive a paid internship at the brewery. Send an email expressing your interest in the scholarship to Info@sourcebrewing.com or to seek additional information.  NZ HopsIn a little country far down in the Pacific, you’ll find a cooperative of Master Growers, whose legend and cultivars have been crafted for over 150 years, with creativity and passion, to produce some of the world’s finest hops. This is NZ Hops. The industry originated in 1843 not long after the early settlers arrived from England. Years of partnership with a dedicated hop breeding programme, and farming knowledge handed down through the generations, sees the current day Master Growers proudly providing 18 unique New Zealand hop varieties to the world.Rare Beer ClubUnlike any other beer club, The Rare Beer Club often works with breweries like Lost Abbey, The Bruery, and American Solera to create craft beers made exclusively for members.  They also bring in hard to find and exclusively imported selections such as Fantome’s Magic Ghost and Westvleteren XII. Their Personalized shipment program allow members to customize each shipment and skip beers you don’t want to get. Get 50% off your first shipment when you sign up for an open-ended ongoing membership at beermonthclub.com and use promo code: DrinkRareBeer. (2 shipment minimum).For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Sean Burke of ForeLand BeerSponsors:  NZ Hops, The Rare Beer Club, Source Brewing, The Beer EdgeTags: Beer, Hops, Lager, Pale Ale, Pilsner, Glassware, Beer Garden, COVID-19 

Ryan Wibby has a passion for traditional lagers but also likes to play around in the space. Since launching Wibby Brewing Co. he has racked up medals, awards, and some top notch reviews. His vienna lager, for example, recently scored 100 points in a blind review panel from Wine Enthusiast Magazine. Like so many small brewers he has worries but excitement about the future. He is always trying to find new ways to reach customers. From lagers with cacao nibs, to making shandies and seltzers, it is clear he is a brewer who is enjoying his days and grateful for the customers downing the pints. This episode is sponsored by:NZ HopsIn a little country far down in the Pacific, you’ll find a cooperative of Master Growers, whose legend and cultivars have been crafted for over 150 years, with creativity and passion, to produce some of the world’s finest hops. This is NZ Hops. The industry originated in 1843 not long after the early settlers arrived from England. Years of partnership with a dedicated hop breeding programme, and farming knowledge handed down through the generations, sees the current day Master Growers proudly providing 18 unique New Zealand hop varieties to the world.Athletic Brewing Co.At Athletic Brewing Company their innovative process allows them to brew great-tasting craft beer without the alcohol. From IPAs to stouts to golden ales and more, they offer a full selection of beers starting at only 50 calories. Now you can keep your head clear and enjoy the refreshing taste of beer anytime, anywhere. Place an order today at athleticbrewing.com and get free shipping on two six-packs or more.Rare Beer ClubUnlike any other beer club, The Rare Beer Club often works with breweries like Lost Abbey, The Bruery, and American Solera to create craft beers made exclusively for members.  They also bring in hard to find and exclusively imported selections such as Fantome’s Magic Ghost and Westvleteren XII. Their Personalized shipment program allow members to customize each shipment and skip beers you don’t want to get. Get 50% off your first shipment when you sign up for an open-ended ongoing membership at beermonthclub.com and use promo code: DrinkRareBeer. (2 shipment minimum).For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Ryan Wibby of Wibby Brewing Co.Sponsors: Athletic Brewing Co., NZ Hops, The Rare Beer Club The Beer EdgeTags: Beer, Hops, Lager, Shandy, Colorado, Pilsner, Expansion, History, Pools, Beer garden, COVID-19 

Welcome to This Week in Rauchbier for April 1, 2021. Hagan and Bill of  Dovetail Brewing in Chicago are off again this week, but joining John Holl is a bevy of rauchbier guests that will warm your hearts and soul, just like properly kilned malt. Lisa Allen of Heater Allen Brewing in Oregon is here to talk about all things rauchbier. Franziska Weyermann of Weyermann Specialty Malts tells us about the family business and what is on the horizon for smoked malt. Jack Hendler of Jack's Abby Craft Lagers in Massachusetts answers letters from the smoked malt mailbag and, as always, Bart Watson of the Brewers Association will be joining us to talk about the smoked beer stats we all look forward to each week. Thanks to Hagen and Bill for the inspiration to do this show. Hear the genesis on episode 5 of Drink Beer, Think Beer.Music for this episode:NewsSting by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4124-newsstingLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Sponsor:This episode is brought to you by the Barke® line of Weyermann Specialty Malts. Barke once enjoyed the highest reputation among German brewers and was once the most common barley variety. Weyermann believes in Barke®, as an all-time great in the history of barley varieties, with its unique qualities especially for artisanal beers, it will continue to have a home in the portfolio of Weyermann® specialty malts for years to come. Available as Barke® Pilsner malt, Barke® Vienna malt, and Barke® Munich malt. Go to bsgcraftbrewing.com to learn more, or call 1-800-374-2739. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuests: Lisa Allen, Jack Hendler, Franziska Weyermann, and Bart Watson.Tags: beer, craft beer, rauchbier, smoke, April Fool's Day

Show notes from host John Holl: Season eight of The Simpsons introduced us to Cecil Underdunk Terwilliger, the younger brother of Sideshow Bob. Our guest this week is Bill Oakley, who among many other things that we’ll tell you about, was the show runner for that season - as well as season 7 – of the long running animated series.  So, it seemed fitting to have my younger, but taller, brother on the show. Especially since he is the one who first put Oakley on my radar. On Oakley's Instagram page - @ That Bill Oakley – he chronicles the fast pace, high-caloric, sometimes gimmicky, often tasty, and modern Americana that is fast food. He regularly posts videos of himself outside of familiar spots like Popeyes, Burger King, McDonalds, KFC, and more giving reviews of their latest offerings, or reviewing “hacks” sent in by viewers.  Like so many of the great comedy writers of his generation he went to Harvard where he worked on the Harvard Lampoon. In 1992 he joined the staff of the Simpsons where he wrote or contributed to many of the episodes that are considered golden classics to this day. He and his writing partner Josh Weinstein won three emmy awards for their work.  They became show runners and executive producers of the show for seasons seven and eight. You may remember some of them: “The Itchy, Scratchy, and Poochie show” “22 Short Films about Springfield” “Radioactive Man” and “Homer’s Enemy” After leaving the show he and Weinstein created Mission Hill, an animated series that appeared on the then WB network. They also then consulted on Futurama and other projects.  Oakley began writing and then became a co-executive producer for Portlandia, co-writing every episode on the 3rd season. We’ll talk about comedy, and writing, and will try hard not to geek out too much but this is a conversation about fast food, and the intersection with beer – there are a lot actually aside from bad decisions made after too many pints at the bar."This episode is sponsored by:NZ HopsIn a little country far down in the Pacific, you’ll find a cooperative of Master Growers, whose legend and cultivars have been crafted for over 150 years, with creativity and passion, to produce some of the world’s finest hops. This is NZ Hops. The industry originated in 1843 not long after the early settlers arrived from England. Years of partnership with a dedicated hop breeding programme, and farming knowledge handed down through the generations, sees the current day Master Growers proudly providing 18 unique New Zealand hop varieties to the world.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Hosts: John Holl, Tom HollGuest: Bill OakleySponsors:  NZ Hops,  The Beer EdgeTags: Beer, Hops, Lager, IPA, Fast Food, Maryland, The Simpsons, Steamed Hams, Comedy, Oregon 

His brewery survived the Great Recession and will do the same with the COVID-19 pandemic, and Paul Kavulak is constantly thinking of new ways to innovate, keep the business running smoothly, and finding the right people for the right jobs. In this episode of Drink Beer, Think Beer he shares stories from his homebrewing days, and the early days of the brewery that laid the foundation to what the company is today and can be in the future. It's a family affair, with his children in the brewhouse and front office, taking on key roles to help this brewery, known for barrel-aged offerings as well as a traditional core line up, focused on quality and community. From opening up the cellar to offer up rare beers to ease the monotony of endless pandemic days, to the struggles of making a "hazy" IPA that keeps pouring clear, Kavulak is a voice of experience, good humor, and remains a fan of beer. This episode is sponsored by:NZ Hops In a little country far down in the Pacific, you’ll find a cooperative of Master Growers, whose legend and cultivars have been crafted for over 150 years, with creativity and passion, to produce some of the world’s finest hops. This is NZ Hops. The industry originated in 1843 not long after the early settlers arrived from England. Years of partnership with a dedicated hop breeding programme, and farming knowledge handed down through the generations, sees the current day Master Growers proudly providing 18 unique New Zealand hop varieties to the world.Athletic Brewing Co. At Athletic Brewing Company their innovative process allows them to brew great-tasting craft beer without the alcohol. From IPAs to stouts to golden ales and more, they offer a full selection of beers starting at only 50 calories. Now you can keep your head clear and enjoy the refreshing taste of beer anytime, anywhere. Place an order today at athleticbrewing.com and get free shipping on two six-packs or more.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Paul Kavulak of Nebraska Brewing Co. Sponsors: Athletic Brewing Co., NZ Hops,  The Beer EdgeTags: Beer, Hops, Lager, IPA, Nebraska, Iowa, Barrel-Aged, Pilsner, Expansion, History, Education, Pale Ale, COVID-19