
The DUTCH Podcast
Welcome to The DUTCH Podcast, your go-to source for all things hormones! Join host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and a lineup of top functional health experts as we dive into the fascinating world of hormonal health and discover how the DUTCH Test can help. Whether you’re navigating any number of hormonal issues like dysmenorrhea, fertility, weight gain, or menopause or you’re dealing with testosterone issues, this podcast aims to break down complex topics into easily digestible insights. Tune in every Tuesday to hear from respected leaders in hormone research and get practical advice to help you manage your health - or the health of your patients - with confidence. Get ready for enlightening conversations that make hormone science approachable and actionable.
Latest episodes

Nov 15, 2022 • 35min
Rethinking our Approach to PCOS with Melissa Groves Azzaro
PCOS is not just a reproductive disorder. In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, examines the nuances of PCOS with Melissa Groves Azzaro, founder of The Hormone Dietitian. They explain the possible root causes of PCOS and discuss a whole-body approach to treating this disease state. Their discussion is fascinating, listen now!

Nov 8, 2022 • 18min
Using DUTCH for Prostate and Testosterone Health
Jaclyn Smeaton and Dr. Geo Espinosa discuss men’s health and the applications of DUTCH testing to address patients with hypogonadism and evaluate the proper estrogen to testosterone balance. Listen now to hear about Dr. Espinosa’s passion for men’s health and how he uses the DUTCH Test in his practice.

Nov 1, 2022 • 26min
Testosterone and Androgen Basics with Dr. Debbie Rice
Testosterone isn’t typically thought of as a “female hormone,” but research shows that women with healthy androgen levels preserve egg quality later in life. Testosterone and other androgens are important for wellbeing and fertility—for men and women. Listen along as Dr. Rice explains the role of androgens in a happy, healthy body.

Oct 25, 2022 • 26min
Estrogen Detox Basics with Dr. Kelly Ruef
Dr. Kelly Ruef is back and shares her knowledge and wisdom with Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, in this episode of the DUTCH Podcast. We get to hear the ins and outs of estrogen detoxification and how to best serve patients who are struggling with detox. Listen now to learn all about these pathways and how the DUTCH Test can help you assess your patient’s estrogen detox status.

Oct 18, 2022 • 16min
Research-Based Hormone Testing with Mark Newman, MS
Season two kicks off with DUTCH Chief Medical Officer Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, discussing the latest hormone testing research with President and Founder of Precision Analytical, Mark Newman, MS. Tune in to learn how "meaningful differentiation" can help providers make more personalized treatment decisions, and more.

Aug 16, 2022 • 23min
Fertility & Cycle Mapping
We are happy to unlock a bonus episode of the DUTCH Podcast to introduce our new Chief Medical Officer (CMO), Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton! In this episode, Dr. Smeaton and Mark Newman discuss fertility treatment using DUTCH Cycle Mapping. Our fertility expert, Dr. Smeaton, shares her insights to handling complex, cycle-related issues. Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the DUTCH Podcast to hear more about Season 2 coming soon.

Jul 19, 2022 • 25min
Endocrine Essentials: DUTCH Testing Basics
In this week’s installment of endocrine essentials, we highlight how the DUTCH Test can uncover hidden markers and help diagnose tough, hormone-related ailments like PCOS, endometriosis, Cushing’s disease, and more. Dr. Debbie Rice explains the connections between hormone imbalance and some of the most common symptoms facing patients today.

Jul 12, 2022 • 35min
Endocrine Essentials: Oxidative Stress
Dr. Allison Smith joins Mark Newman to discuss the nine organic acids available with DUTCH testing, which assist providers in evaluating nutrient deficiency or cellular oxidation. In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, they focus primarily on the oxidative stress marker 8-hydroxy-2-deoxyguanosine, also known as 8-OHDG.

Jul 5, 2022 • 26min
Cortisol Patterns Through Case Studies
This week, Dr. Ruef helps us break down the often-confusing business of testing cortisol. She and Mark Newman discuss how to interpret the results of DUTCH Tests to better help providers and patients reach their goals and solve specific cortisol-related issues.

Jun 28, 2022 • 37min
Endocrine Essentials: Cortisol
In this episode Dr. Christina O’Brien will be covering the CAR, metabolized cortisol and more. Cortisol is the stress hormone, and you can tell a lot about how someone manages stress by looking at the first hour of their day. The Cortisol Awakening Response - or CAR - acts as a mini stress test to show how your body uses cortisol to wake up and feel alert. Listen in to learn about cortisol and how to use the saliva cortisol curve to understand your patients' stress resilience.