
The DUTCH Podcast
Welcome to The DUTCH Podcast, your go-to source for all things hormones! Join host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and a lineup of top functional health experts as we dive into the fascinating world of hormonal health and discover how the DUTCH Test can help. Whether you’re navigating any number of hormonal issues like dysmenorrhea, fertility, weight gain, or menopause or you’re dealing with testosterone issues, this podcast aims to break down complex topics into easily digestible insights. Tune in every Tuesday to hear from respected leaders in hormone research and get practical advice to help you manage your health - or the health of your patients - with confidence. Get ready for enlightening conversations that make hormone science approachable and actionable.
Latest episodes

Oct 24, 2023 • 37min
Controversies and Contributions to Estrogen Load with Dr. Andrew Rostenberg, DC
In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Andrew Rostenberg shares his perspective on the risks that can arise when environmental estrogens disrupt our natural estrogen balance. When out of balance, estrogen can impact our physique, how we age, and our overall health. As Dr. Rostenberg explains, due to the inundation of environmental estrogenic influences from sources like heavy metals, mold toxins, and cosmetics, many patients are grappling with endocrine disruptions that affect other systems throughout the body. Tune in to hear insights into the symptoms of estrogen imbalance in both men and women, and the pivotal role the gallbladder plays in metabolizing estrogen in our bodies. Dr. Rostenberg also emphasizes that our genes don't dictate our fate, and we have plenty of tools available to reduce our environmental exposures and combat the effects of estrogen excess. Show Notes: Learn more about Dr. Andrew Rostenberg and his Boise, ID clinic: www.redmountainclinic.com Access his online coaching site: WellPower where you can also find his book “Your Genius Body” Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! Watch Dr. Andrew Rostenberg on the DUTCH Webinar from August 2022: “The Detox Gene” and Estrogen. Related Articles from the DUTCH Blog Breast Cancer Risk Factors to Look for on the DUTCH Test Evaluating Estrogen Detoxification to Understand Breast Cancer Risk

Oct 17, 2023 • 33min
Estrogen Basics with Dr. Allison Smith
Dr. Allison Smith, an expert in estrogen, discusses the importance of understanding estrogen metabolism and its impact on health. Topics include the influence of environmental pollutants on estrogen, screening for xenoestrogens, and the significance of estrogen in cancer risk and prevention. The podcast dives into different forms of estrogen, debunking misconceptions around perimenopause, and emphasizes personalized strategies for managing estrogen levels through diet and gut health.

Oct 10, 2023 • 34min
Taking an Integrative Approach to Breast Health with Dr. Lauren Young, ND
Breast health is a topic often overlooked in conventional medicine. In this new episode of the DUTCH Podcast, we don’t shy away from tackling this vital aspect of women's health. Join us as we explore breast health from an integrative perspective with Dr. Lauren Young, ND, a passionate advocate for empowering patients to take control of their health. Traditional medicine often focuses on screening for diseases, but Dr. Young recognizes that many women don't fit the disease model but still require support and guidance. It's all too common for conventional doctors to rule out cancer, and then not have the appropriate tools to address breast pain. There are hormonal, dietary, and structural factors that contribute to breast pain and providers must investigate the root cause using a comprehensive approach. You can't just take a pill! Healing involves examining various components, including diet, genetics, family history, and lifestyle. Join us for this eye-opening conversation with Dr. Lauren Young, ND, as we take a holistic and integrative approach to understanding and improving breast health! Register for this month’s DUTCH Webinar with Dr. Lauren Young! Breast Health and Hormones: Going Beyond Cancer Prevention Find Dr. Young’s Clinical Practice at www.Ctnaturalhealth.com Follow Dr. Young’s “Your Health Toolkit” podcast: www.ctnaturalhealth.com/podcast Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! Related Articles from the DUTCH Blog Integrative Support for Patients with Fibrocystic Breasts Breast Cancer, Nutrigenomics, and Estrogen Detoxification

Oct 3, 2023 • 45min
New Perspectives on Breast Cancer Screening with Dr. Tara Scott
In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Tara Scott, MD, joins us for an enlightening discussion about the changing landscape of breast cancer screening, estrogen metabolism, and hormone testing. As a classically trained OB/GYN, Dr. Scott explains how the allopathic medical community isn’t given the tools to monitor hormone levels or cycle fluctuations for female patients. She wants to change this and has started Revitalize Academy to teach providers how monitoring hormone metabolism can help them find breast cancer risk factors early on and create treatment plans to optimize estrogen detoxification. This week, Dr. Scott and host, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, will cover important topics like estrogen replacement therapy, genetic testing, and why physicians should look beyond serum testing to understand what’s going on with their patients. Tune in to hear about the latest research in breast cancer screening and change the way you think about estrogen – it's not a four-letter word anymore. Show Notes Hormone Guru Academy: www.hormone-guru.com @hormonegurumd on Instagram and @hormoneguru on TikTok Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! Watch Dr. Tara Scott on the DUTCH Webinar from October 2022: An Integrative Approach to Breast Cancer Related Articles from the DUTCH Blog Monitoring HRT with a Dried Urine Hormone Test - DUTCH Test Breast Cancer Risk Factors to Look For on the DUTCH Test - DUTCH Test Evaluating Estrogen Detoxification to Understand Breast Cancer Risk - DUTCH Test

Sep 26, 2023 • 44min
Whole-Body Approaches to Thyroid Dysfunction with Dr. Filomena Trindade
Dr. Filomena Trindade, renowned expert in functional medicine, discusses the intricate world of thyroid health and its impact on overall well-being. She challenges conventional thyroid reference ranges, advocating for lifestyle changes to treat dysfunction early. Topics include the interconnectedness of hormones, the importance of colorful diets rich in nutrients, and lifestyle factors like hydration and restful sleep.

Sep 19, 2023 • 39min
Practical Approaches to Stress Management with Deb Matthew, MD
Slow, sluggish mornings followed by sleepless nights should not be the norm—yet for many patients, this is their experience. In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and guest Deb Matthew, MD, talk about the profound impact that stress and cortisol have on overall wellness. They discuss how dysfunction precedes disease and why it’s crucial to nip HPA axis dysfunction in the bud before it causes long-term, chronic health problems.They share all about the nitty-gritty of the HPA axis, circadian rhythm, and how sex hormones, thyroid hormones, and adrenal hormones are all interconnected. Plus, Dr. Matthew reveals some of her go-to recommendations for stress management. Show NotesDr. Matthew’s Stress Reduction Recommendations- Gratitude journaling- Breathing exercises- Walking outdoors- Self-care and relaxation Visit Dr. Matthew’s website https://drdeborahmatthew.com/.Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing.Read the DUTCH Blog to learn more:Assessing Chronic Fatigue with the Cortisol Awakening ResponseCircadian Rhythm and Human HealthYou Need Free Cortisone and Metabolized Cortisol to Evaluate HPA Axis Health

Aug 29, 2023 • 22min
PCOS Patterns and Protocols with Brook Ahnemann, ND
In this episode of Summer School, Dr. Smeaton talks all things PCOS with Brook Ahnemann, ND, a hormone expert and clinical educator at DUTCH. The PCOS diagnostic criteria seem to be a moving target; they’re constantly changing! Luckily, there are some DUTCH Test patterns you can look out for to support your patients with PCOS. Show Notes Download the Case Study from this episode.For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course. DUTCH Blog: Improving Treatment Plans for PCOS and Pregnancy

Aug 22, 2023 • 21min
Linking Organic Acids to Sex and Adrenal Hormones with Christina O'Brien, DC
Dr. Christina O'Brien discusses the importance of analyzing organic acid markers on the Dutch Test for health insights. They explore how nutrient deficiencies, lifestyle, and toxins impact markers, linking them to hormonal balance, autoimmune processes, and neuro-inflammation. The discussion delves into the role of organic acids in hormone regulation, gut function, and patient health, emphasizing their clinical relevance and specific panel criteria.

Aug 15, 2023 • 26min
Estrogen Metabolism and Breast Cancer Risk with Lindsey Szczepanski, NP
Did you know that even when hormone levels may appear normal, inefficient estrogen metabolism could be a factor in symptoms related to estrogen dominance? Estrogen dominance is a risk factor for breast cancer, but the good news is it’s modifiable. Learn how to help patients improve their estrogen metabolism in today’s episode of Summer School featuring Lindsey Szczepanski, NP. Show Notes Download the Case Study from this episode.For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course. DUTCH Blog: Estrogen + Microbiome = Estrobolome

Aug 8, 2023 • 31min
Estrogen Dominance Signs & Symptoms with Rebecca Clemson, ND
Our Summer School guest for this episode is Dr. Rebecca Clemson. She breaks down the topic of estrogen dominance and highlights some of its hallmark signs and symptoms. Host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and Dr. Clemson discuss the DUTCH Test results of a 37-year-old female who’s experiencing symptoms akin to PMDD and demonstrate how estrogen dominance could be at play. Show Notes Download the Case Study from this episodeFor more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course. DUTCH Blog: Symptoms and Support of Low Progesterone