
The DUTCH Podcast
Welcome to The DUTCH Podcast, your go-to source for all things hormones! Join host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and a lineup of top functional health experts as we dive into the fascinating world of hormonal health and discover how the DUTCH Test can help. Whether you’re navigating any number of hormonal issues like dysmenorrhea, fertility, weight gain, or menopause or you’re dealing with testosterone issues, this podcast aims to break down complex topics into easily digestible insights. Tune in every Tuesday to hear from respected leaders in hormone research and get practical advice to help you manage your health - or the health of your patients - with confidence. Get ready for enlightening conversations that make hormone science approachable and actionable.
Latest episodes

Jun 11, 2024 • 35min
HRT, Estrogen Applications, and Clinical Efficacy with Dr. Jeff Bland and Mark Newman, MS
Join the conversation with Dr. Jeff Bland and Mark Newman as they examine the discourse around our Menopause publication, the methods of analysis in the study, and the confusion on how transdermal estradiol dosage is defined, which has puzzled the functional medicine industry for decades. They also discuss how to balance the risks of hormone replacement therapy and the importance of finding “the HRT sweet spot” for each patient. Don’t miss this episode recorded at IFM AIC 2024! Show Notes:Learn more about Dr. Bland and follow him on Instagram at @drjeffreybland. Read our published study on transdermal estradiol creams, gels, and patches in Menopause. Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about using hormone replacement therapy in your practice.

Jun 4, 2024 • 49min
Cortisol, Cognitive Function, and Mental Health
In this informational episode, Jaclyn and Carrie Jones discuss the connection between cortisol, cognitive health, mental health, and reproductive hormones. Cortisol can influence many parts of the body, including hormones, the prefrontal cortex, and stress resilience over time. Stress resilience looks different for everyone, but Jaclyn and Carrie provide some great tips to help mitigate stress, feel more at ease, and improve resilience. They also cover how stressors have changed since the pandemic, how hormonal shifts can create stress in the body, and the importance of not diminishing the effects of stress in our lives. Show Notes:Follow Dr. Carrie Jones on Instagram: @dr.carriejones Follow DUTCH on Social Media: @dutchtest Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers!

May 28, 2024 • 34min
Aging and Longevity in Women with Maddy Dychtwald
Hear more about the longevity revolution in this episode with author and speaker Maddy Dychtwald! Maddy and Jaclyn have a thought-provoking conversation on genetics versus epigenetics, research advancements around cognitive health, and hormone replacement therapy as a method to maintain health. They also discuss the importance of social connections, feeling a sense of purpose, and financial stability as factors that affect our longevity. You don’t want to miss this insightful episode! Show Notes:Check out Maddy Dychtwald’s newest book, Ageless Aging! Learn more about Maddy Dychtwald and Age Wave.

May 21, 2024 • 24min
Menopause Publication, A Letter to the Editor, and DUTCH’s Response
Mark Newman, MS discusses the comparison between FDA-approved estrogen patches and gels to compounded estrogen creams, confusion in nomenclature of estrogen dose and absorption, differences in response between patches, gels, and creams, advancements in hormone monitoring research, importance of clinical outcomes and scientific literature in hormone therapy.

May 14, 2024 • 18min
DUTCH Test Enhancements: New Updates to the DUTCH Report with Mark Newman, MS
Welcome to Season 4 of the DUTCH Podcast! In this episode, Mark Newman, MS, joins our host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, to discuss the recent enhancements to the DUTCH report. These visual changes are the first in a series of a few updates aimed at improving readability and providing deeper insights into the data. Mark and Jaclyn discuss the update from fan gauges to slider graphics to show population percentile, the new estrogen metabolism ratio sliders that display ratios more precisely, and how DUTCH is working on education around the DUTCH report so providers can see a patient’s story more intuitively. Listen in to learn more about these updates! Show Notes Read our blog post detailing the visual updates to the DUTCH Report and tips for report interpretation. Check out sample reports for a 62-year-old male or a 44-year-old female to see how these updates are represented visually. Frequently Asked Questions When will I see the enhancements reflected on DUTCH reports? Providers will begin seeing these visual updates reflected on reports starting May 2, 2024. If my test is already in process, will the enhancements be reflected on my report? Any reports that have not been released to you yet will show these updates. Who can I contact for questions regarding these enhancements? If you have questions, you can contact our Customer Care team by phone at 503-687-2050 or by email at info@dutchtest.com.

Feb 6, 2024 • 38min
Hair Loss and Scalp Health with Dr. Alan Bauman
Dr. Alan Bauman, a hair restoration expert, delves into the complexities of hair loss, emphasizing genetic, hormonal, and lifestyle factors. He discusses treatments like red light therapy and probiotics, stressing the importance of early care for resilient follicles. Listeners learn valuable insights on hair and scalp health in this informative episode.

Jan 30, 2024 • 42min
Optimizing Sleep Hygiene & the Circadian Rhythm
Join Dr. Jaclyn Tolentino, Senior Doctor at Parsley Health, as she delves into the importance of optimizing sleep hygiene and the circadian rhythm in this enlightening episode. Learn about the impact of natural light on our bodies, dangers of artificial light, best times for outdoor exposure, dietary tips, personalized exercise, and the power of testing in patient care plans. Transform your daily habits and sleep routine with practical advice from this informative conversation.

Jan 23, 2024 • 33min
Diagnosing PCOS (Polycystic Ovary Syndrome) with Krystal Richardson, ND
Holistic practitioner Krystal Richardson, ND discusses PCOS diagnosis challenges, emphasizing endocrine disruptions over ovarian focus. She challenges conventional weight-loss advice, stresses individualized care plans. Offers insights on diet, exercise, supplements, and lab test accuracy in managing PCOS.

Jan 16, 2024 • 33min
Tips to Recognize Stressors and Repair the Body with Dr. Carrie Jones
This enlightening episode of the DUTCH Podcast takes listeners on a journey to understand how to manage stress and rejuvenate the body featuring our special guest, Dr. Carrie Jones, ND. Dr. Jones wants to shift the mindset of the high-energy “boss babe era” to help listeners embrace more rest-based lifestyles. She discusses how omnipresent stressors can be in our lives and how the brain is constantly evaluating threats in the world. This “always on” mentality can pose significant impacts on the body’s resources. She also sheds light on the effects of norepinephrine, noting that running on this stress hormone hinders the body's ability to heal and repair at the cellular level. This conversation is not just about identifying stress but also about practical, foundational changes for better health management. Key topics include the importance of hydration, sleep, and managing blood sugar, as well as understanding the glymphatic system and the circadian rhythm's role as the master regulator of the body's various rhythms. Dr. Jones explains the nuanced balance of stress and resilience, particularly in relation to exercise, and the potential hormonal shifts when pushing too far. She also highlights the significance of cortisol testing for understanding diurnal rhythms and optimizing patient care plans. Tune in to this groundbreaking discussion on transforming stress management into a tool to repair the body and maintain a resilient, healthy lifestyle. Show Notes Follow Dr. Carrie Jones on Instagram: @dr.carriejones Learn more about Dr. Jones’ Metabolic Mentor University Follow DUTCH on Social Media: @dutchtest Access DUTCH Webinars to learn how Cortisol and Stress can impact your life – and what you can do about it! Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers!

Jan 9, 2024 • 39min
DUTCH in 2024: A Year of Profound Change
In this week's episode, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and Mark Newman, MS reflect on the DUTCH team’s advancements in hormone education and research in 2023, plus they give insights for what’s to come in the year ahead. Listen in to hear more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course and DUTCH Interpretive Guide that became available to DUTCH providers in 2023. They also explain the significance of two groundbreaking research studies including the first peer-reviewed study comparing FDA-approved estrogen patches, gels, and creams published in the journal Menopause. This pivotal research underscores the clinical validity and utility of urine metabolite testing in transdermal estrogen replacement therapy. As we look ahead to 2024, DUTCH is committed to furthering our mission to profoundly change lives by making it easier for providers and patients to access reports and hormone education. Be the first to hear about a new educational course on menopausal hormone therapy, designed to help providers navigate the complexities of monitoring and dosing HRT. We also have some exciting advancements coming to our customer experience plus even more research to help providers make more confident hormone-related decisions. This will be an exciting year at DUTCH, and we are so grateful to our provider community for joining us in our mission! Show Notes Read more about the latest DUTCH research published in Menopause Discover even more peer-reviewed research validating DUTCH and learn how DUTCH Trust can help you feel more confident in your treatment decisions. Learn more about all of the expert hormone education available to DUTCH providers. Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing.