
The DUTCH Podcast
Welcome to The DUTCH Podcast, your go-to source for all things hormones! Join host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and a lineup of top functional health experts as we dive into the fascinating world of hormonal health and discover how the DUTCH Test can help. Whether you’re navigating any number of hormonal issues like dysmenorrhea, fertility, weight gain, or menopause or you’re dealing with testosterone issues, this podcast aims to break down complex topics into easily digestible insights. Tune in every Tuesday to hear from respected leaders in hormone research and get practical advice to help you manage your health - or the health of your patients - with confidence. Get ready for enlightening conversations that make hormone science approachable and actionable.
Latest episodes

Feb 11, 2025 • 44min
Hormones & Bone Health: The Hidden Connection
In this episode, Dr. Doug Lucas, a double board-certified orthopedic surgeon and osteoporosis specialist, discusses the importance of understanding and preventing osteoporosis. He shares his journey from traditional orthopedics to functional medicine, emphasizing that osteoporosis is not only preventable but often reversible. This discussion also covers: Various aspects of bone health, including the significance of early screening and alternative evaluation methods A holistic approach to bone health, integrating lifestyle changes and hormone optimization to improve overall health and longevity The critical role of hormone therapy in women's health, particularly focusing on estradiol, progesterone, and testosterone Gaps in research regarding testosterone's impact on women's health and the utility of DUTCH testing for evaluating hormone levels Practical lifestyle strategies for maintaining bone health and optimizing hormone balance Show Notes:Learn more about Dr. Doug Lucas, his program Optimal Human Health MD, and follow him on Instagram @dr_douglucas. Dr. Lucas also recommends exploring PEMA Bioidentical as a resource. Check out Dr. Lucas’s books, Top 10 Reasons Why Your Hormones Are Failing You and The Osteoporosis Breakthrough! Become a DUTCH Provider to get access to free educational resources, expert clinical support, comprehensive patient reports, and peer-reviewed and validated research.

Feb 4, 2025 • 42min
How Do Hormones & Nutrition Impact Weight Gain During Perimenopause?
In this episode, Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and Pippa Campbell, ND delve into the complexities of perimenopausal weight gain, exploring the hormonal changes that occur during this phase and their impact on women's health. Pippa shares her insights on the role of estrogen, the importance of gallbladder health, and the nuances of nutrition, particularly through the lens of nutrigenomics. This conversation also covers: The need for personalized approaches to diet and health, moving beyond simplistic models of weight loss The power of cycle mapping Assessing hormonal balance with the DUTCH Test The significance of stress management and nutrition in overall health Societal pressures surrounding weight gain and the importance of advocating for a more personalized approach to women's health Show Notes:Learn more about Pippa Campbell and follow her on Instagram @pippacampbell_health. Check out Pippa’s books, Eat Right, Lose Weight and Eat Right, Balance Hormones, as well as the Force of Nature beef/bison blend discussed in this episode. Learn more about the study on chronic hyperglycemia and kidney stones Dr. Smeaton mentioned. Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about how comprehensive hormone testing can profoundly change the lives of your patients experiencing perimenopause and menopause.

Jan 28, 2025 • 45min
Cardiovascular Health: Leading a Proactive & Functional Lifestyle
In this conversation, Dr. Tracy Gapin, a board-certified urologist and men's health optimization expert, discusses the often-overlooked aspects of men's health, particularly cardiovascular disease, and the importance of understanding various health markers. He shares his journey from traditional urology to a more holistic approach, emphasizing the need for functional testing and diagnostics to uncover hidden health issues. This conversation also covers: The significance of hormonal health, including testosterone and DHEA The critical role of gut health in overall performance and well-being, emphasizing how it affects various bodily functions including mood, metabolism, and immune response How stress, sleep, and gut health are interconnected The potential of peptides and advanced diagnostics in modern medicine Practical, actionable steps individuals can take to improve their health through nutrition, hydration, and sleep hygiene Show Notes: Learn more about Dr. Gapin and the Gapin Institute, and follow him on Instagram @drtracygapin. Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about integrating hormone testing into your practice.

Jan 21, 2025 • 36min
Integrative Dermatology: Holistic Skincare, Gut Health & Hormonal Balance
In this episode, recorded live at A4M World Congress, Dr. Julie Greenberg discusses her innovative approach to integrative dermatology, emphasizing the connection between skin health and internal bodily functions, particularly the gut microbiome. Dr. Greenberg also discusses: The importance of understanding food allergies and hormonal health Holistic skincare regimens The need for a dual approach to treatment, addressing both internal and external factors affecting skin conditions The receptivity of dermatologists to functional medicine The significance of foundational skincare practices Show Notes: Visit Dr. Greenberg’s website and check out Root Cause Dermatology for provider training courses. Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about how the DUTCH Test can profoundly change the lives of your patients.

Jan 21, 2025 • 36min
Probiotics & the Microbiome: Metabolism, Immunity & Gut Health
In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, recorded live at A4M World Congress, Colleen Cutcliffe, CEO and co-founder of Pendulum Probiotics, discusses the significant role of the gut microbiome in overall health and longevity. She shares insights into the innovative research and development of probiotics, particularly focusing on the strain Akkermansia, which has been shown to have profound effects on metabolic health, immune function, and even skin health. This episode also highlights: Challenges in probiotic development The evolving acceptance of probiotics in the medical community How diet fits into maintaining gut health The untapped potential of the microbiome in various health domains, including hormonal health and the gut-brain connection The need for more targeted research and products in this field Show Notes:Learn more about Colleen Cutcliffe and Pendulum Probiotics. Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about using hormone testing in your practice.

Jan 14, 2025 • 32min
The Importance of Functional Medicine: Longevity & Health Optimization
In this episode, recorded live at A4M World Congress, Dr. Darshan Shah shares his transformative journey from a traditional surgeon to a pioneer in longevity medicine. He discusses the importance of integrative and functional medicine, emphasizing the need for a new healthcare system focused on health optimization rather than disease management. Dr. Shah also highlights: The important role of patient empowerment The significance of monitoring key health indicators The impact of hormones on overall well-being Exciting innovations in longevity medicine and offers Insights on how individuals can take charge of their health Show Notes:Learn more about Dr. Shah’s company, Next Health, and check out his podcast, Extend. Follow Dr. Shah on Instagram @darshanshahmd! Discover how functional medicine and hormone testing can profoundly change the lives of your patients by becoming a DUTCH Provider today.

Jan 14, 2025 • 43min
Supporting Perimenopause: Hormonal Balance, Personalized Medicine & HRT
In this episode, recorded live at A4M World Congress, Dr. Tara Scott discusses the complexities of perimenopause, a hormonal transition that can last for years. She highlights the challenges providers face in diagnosing and treating this phase, the importance of understanding hormonal changes, and the broader impacts on women's health, including metabolic health and hormonal imbalances. Dr. Scott also covers: The need for comprehensive assessments and personalized medicine to address the unique experiences of perimenopause Lifestyle changes that can aid women in perimenopause The role of supplements in supporting women's health Estrogen metabolism and the importance of understanding how the body processes estrogen The nuanced decisions surrounding hormone therapy Show Notes Learn more about Dr. Tara Scott and follow her on Instagram @HormoneGuruMD. Explore how to support your patients during perimenopause with hormone testing by becoming a DUTCH Provider today!

Jan 7, 2025 • 44min
2024 Recap & 2025 Vision: DUTCH’s Next Move
In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and Mark Newman, MS, discuss the advancements and highlights from 2024 in the field of hormonal health and functional medicine. They cover the launch of the new DUTCH website, recent research publications, and the exciting growth of the DUTCH Podcast and DUTCH Webinars. They also delve into: The importance of education in hormone therapy Updates made to the DUTCH report The introduction of new educational resources, such as Mini Guides The upcoming Introduction to Menopausal HRT course DUTCH’s commitment to excellence and mission to improve hormonal health for all Show Notes: Check out the new DUTCH website and our new Education Hub, and read the research on DIM’s effects on the urinary estrogen profile. For more DUTCH research, visit DUTCHTest.com/research, and check out our estrogen therapy research in Menopause. Get access to our new educational course, Introduction to Menopausal HRT, exclusive for registered DUTCH providers. If you’re not a DUTCH Provider, sign up today! Take a look at page 2 of this sample report, which highlights the androgen story Mark Newman, MS mentions in this episode.

Dec 10, 2024 • 45min
Autoimmunity in Women: Hormonal Shifts During Perimenopause and Menopause
In this episode, Dr. Sara Szal (formerly Gottfried) discusses the rising rates of autoimmunity, particularly among women, and the importance of understanding anti-nuclear antibody (ANA) testing. She emphasizes the need to explore root causes of autoimmunity, including genetic predisposition, leaky gut, and environmental triggers. Dr. Szal and Dr. Smeaton also explore: Foundational approaches to managing autoimmune conditions The connection between reproductive hormones and autoimmune diseases The influence of hormonal changes during perimenopause and menopause, and how these changes affect various bodily systems The importance of diet and technology, such as continuous glucose monitors, in managing health during these transitions The role of different testing methods in understanding hormonal balance Show Notes:Learn more about Dr. Sara Szal and her new book, The Autoimmune Cure, and follow Dr. Szal on Instagram @saragottfriedmd. Become a DUTCH Provider and learn more about how to use comprehensive hormone testing in your practice.

Dec 3, 2024 • 41min
Exploring HRT: Controversies, Questions & Education
In this conversation, Dr. Carrie Jones and Dr. Jaclyn discuss the challenges that providers face when learning about hormone replacement therapy (HRT) for menopause. They highlight the confusion and conflicting information surrounding HRT and the need for a comprehensive and evidence-based approach. They also introduce a new educational course from DUTCH, Introduction to Hormone Replacement Therapy, which aims to provide a clear and practical guide for providers looking to incorporate HRT into their practice. Dr. Jaclyn and Dr. Carrie also discuss: The core hormones involved in HRT, including estradiol, progesterone, and DHEA Different forms and routes of administration The importance of understanding the evidence and guidelines for HRT The need for individualized patient assessment and testing Controversies and common questions surrounding HRT Show Notes: Sign up to get early access to the Introduction to Hormone Replacement Therapy course. This course is exclusive to registered DUTCH Providers – become a DUTCH Provider today! Follow Dr. Carrie Jones on Instagram @dr.carriejones.
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