
The Short Term Show
The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental (Airbnb) investing and management. Host Avery Carl interviews successful real estate investors and CEOs of Airbnb related startups to bring inspirational and actionable content to listeners. Whether you are an experienced Airbnb investor or co-host, or you’re just getting started, The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental content.
About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.
Latest episodes

Jun 9, 2022 • 46min
Survivor to Real Estate Savant with Chandra Lacy
Chandra Lacy overcame the incredible hurdles of being a domestic abuse survivor to become the owner of over 90 doors. An expert across all things real estate - from flipping to development to buying and selling, Chandra is passionate about teaching women to defy life’s obstacles and invest in real estate to create residual income. She works across multiple markets and has achieved enormous success across her diverse portfolio.
Avery speaks with Chandra about how she got her foot in the door, and how she was able to overcome the terrible circumstances that she was facing to become the amazing woman that she is today. They additionally speak about the techniques that she used to expand her portfolio - as well as tips for breaking into niche markets like nurse rentals and mobile homes. Avery and Chandra have a deep conversation about the dangers of self inflicted limitation and the importance of building your network and not letting anything hold you back.
Key Topics
How she got out of a domestic violence situation
Tips for getting started
Perks of buy and hold units
Value of having a diverse portfolio
Importance of having a network
How to get into mobile homes
Tips for flipping
Getting into nurse rentals
Importance of not letting anything hold you back
Strength Finders
The Awakened Woman
Chandra's Instagram

Jun 2, 2022 • 60min
Mechanics of Micro Units and Franchises with Jerome Maldonado
Jerome Maldonado is a highly successful real estate investor, business owner, coach and speaker. He is an expert in the distressed hotel investment industry, as well as in owning franchises and owning rentals through third-party management companies. Jerome found the traction and confidence which has allowed him to do millions upon millions of dollars in residential and commercial real estate transactions and holdings. Over the span of his 20-year career, Jerome has done over $200 million in in-house transactions, with another $52 million in 2021 alone.
Avery and Jerome speak about the inner workings of turning distressed hotels into rental units, as well as the different types of markets that these units might appeal to. They also delve into Jerome’s expertise into working with a municipality, asset class considerations and the appeal of micro units. Jerome shares his plethora of knowledge within niche areas of the real estate market and how to set yourself up for sure success.
Key Topics
Tips in distressed hotel investing
Benefit of working within specific asset classes
How to turn hotel rooms into multi-family units
What rehabbing units looks like
How to deal with municipality, and zoning
Areas where micro units are most attractive
Tips for managing franchises
How to deal with compression
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
Rich Dad, Poor Dad
How to Win Friends and Influence People
Rhinocerous Success
Jerome's Website

May 19, 2022 • 50min
Becoming an Educated Buyer with Brenna Carles
Brenna Carles is the CEO and Founder of The Mortgage Shop, and is a close coworker of Avery’s. She is a true expert when it comes to mortgage lending and is on a quest to make everyone’s real estate investing dreams come true. She is an expert when it comes to obtaining loans for vacation homes, short and long-term rentals, as well as building a strong foundation of generational wealth.
With a vast knowledge of the different types of loan options that exist, 1031 exchanges, and how to build out real estate portfolios with a wide range of financing options, both Avery and Brenna are true experts in their craft. They speak about the evolution of different types of interest rates, the diverse loan options that exist in the market, as well as how loan options might differ both situationally and with different investment options. They both provide their expert insight into what it means to be an educated buyer, avoid common mistakes, and guarantee success whether you are a new investor or have several properties in your tool belt.
How interest rates have evolved
How COVID prompted people to get into real estate
Managing different types of loans while staying safe
How to get your start in the investing world
Understanding DSCR Loans
DSCR loans or long term vs short term rentals
Benefits of conventional financing vs complicated loans
Why certain loans are more expensive than others
How higher interest rates help people make money
Importance of being educated when working with a loan enforcement officer
How to be an educated buyer
Understanding gift funds
Definition of non-warrantable condos
The Morgage Shop
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
HostGPO

May 11, 2022 • 28min
Not Your Average Joe Real Estate Investing with Ethan McCarty
Ethan Tyler McCarty is a self-proclaimed Average Joe of real estate investing, but the success that he has made in the market is anything but ordinary. With a wide range of investments throughout the US that he operates with his wife, Ethan is an expert on building a wide-spanning portfolio while also keeping caution and deep research in mind.
Avery speaks with Ethan about how he and his wife got into the real estate market and their tips on educating yourself before getting started. They also speak about the importance of having a financial cushion and proceeding with caution as opposed to throwing oneself into the market blindly. They speak in-depth about the perks and downsides of different types of assets that exist from condos to flips to trailers as well as what it means to be a true hardcore real estate couple.
Key Topics
How Ethan got started
How Ethan built his brand
Ways Ethan runs his portfolio with his wide
Real estate education suggestions
Importance of having a financial cushion
Perks and downsides of different asset types
Relentless by Tim Grover
Dave Ramsey
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

May 5, 2022 • 53min
Everything Syndications with Real Estate InvestHER Liz Faircloth
Liz Faircloth is the co-founder of The Real Estate InvestHER, a company that strives to bring women together to connect deeply about their businesses and get support in their goals to take their careers to the next level. Starting in her 20s, Liz has become an expert real estate investor, and syndication expert with a far-reaching portfolio.
Avery and Liz speak about how they hit their stride in the real estate world, as well as how their careers developed over time. Liz speaks about what she looks for in a deal, and the different factors that she considers when adding rentals to her portfolio. They go into depth into every aspect of syndications from purchase to management to working with syndicators
Key Topics
How they hit their stride
How they got into syndication mode
Things to look for when doing a deal
Active vs passive investing in syndication
Importance of operational team
Differences between different markets
How to manage pending recessions
506B vs 506C
Tips for refinancing when syndicated
Value of working with trusted syndicators
Meaning of value add amenities
Awaken the Giant Within
InvestHER Con
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Apr 28, 2022 • 30min
Managing Rentals While Managing Family with Ashley & Jered Guy
Ashley and Jered Guy are a married, real estate power duo with properties throughout the US in markets such as The Smokies, Gulf Shore, and Blue Ridge. They have rentals in more markets than anyone on the show so far. With a wide range of short-term rentals throughout the US, including some owned and operated in partnerships, they are shining examples that you can manage both a wide rental portfolio and a family.
Avery speaks with the Guys about how they got into the real estate market and how they usually divide up the work between them. They also speak about the wide range of rentals they operate, and how they managed to make a profit off of a vacation home investment. They dig into strategies for finding partners, as well as techniques to find rentals that fit your budget, needs, and expectations.
Rich Dad, Poor Dad
The Big Leap
Grant Cardone
AirDNA
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Apr 21, 2022 • 36min
Financing Your Financial Freedom with John Voychick
John Voychick is a full-time nurse, part-time real estate investor with an increasingly wide range of short term and long term real estate investments across the Smokies, Gulf Shore, Jacksonville and San Diego. He is masterful in using creative methods to fund properties, as well as managing long distance rentals without the need for physical proximity.
Avery and John speak about his entry into real estate and how and why he decided to invest in his first short and long term rentals. They speak about why John chose his specific national markets and how he learned how to manage rentals from afar. John also delves into the specific creative techniques that he uses to fund his rentals, from using conventional financing to equity credit. Lastly, Avery and John discuss the importance of connecting with your loan operator and the often dismissed value of attitude and connections when it comes to taking your rental portfolio to new heights.
Key Topics
How John entered the real estate market
The benefit of equity credit
Differences in managing STR vs LTR
Perks of having real estate investments
How John’s portfolio has grown
Creative ways to fund rentals
Details about conventional financing
How to choose markets
Importance of attitude in real estate
Long-Distance Real Estate Investing
John's BiggerPockets
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Apr 14, 2022 • 41min
Condos and Connections with Stacey St. John
Stacey St. John is a true savant in the world of Myrtle Beach condo investing. Not only does she play a big game in the real estate world, but she additionally operates an amazing community for Female Real Estate Investors. She currently owns over a dozen beachfront properties in the area, specifically focusing on condos.
Avery speaks with Stacey about her business operations and why she picked short-herm rentals over long-term. They also discuss the benefits of smaller units, rather than always opting for larger multi-family homes. In addition, they discuss why she picked the Myrtle Beach market specifically and the specific benefits it has over other territories. Stacey speaks about the idiosyncrasies of renting condos, and how to manage the larger down payments that come with them.
Key Topics
Why Stacey picked STR
Why bigger is not necessarily better
Why she picked Myrtle Beach over Dustin
Importance of building assessments
Elephants in the room when it comes to financing
Dealing with non-warrantable condos
Managing larger down payments
How to take everything as a learning opportunity
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
Stayinmyrtlebeach.com
Rewiring Your Brain

Apr 7, 2022 • 44min
Building Traction and Hustling with Jabbar Adesada
Jabbar Adesada is crushing it in the real estate market at just 20 years old. An enlisted Marine, Jabbar is at the beginning of his real estate journey but that doesn’t keep him from reaching enormous success. While working actively in the military, Jabbar operates his own house hack, as well as manages several luxury Airbnbs across the country. Jabbar is a shining example of the value of being proactive and eager in your real estate journey, and how a commitment to your own success and growth can take your personal finances to new heights.
Jabbar and Avery speak about his amazing journey into the real estate market and the evolution of Jabbar’s real estate portfolio. They go into depth into how he got started in the industry, and his inspirational ability to overcome rejection and failure in order to create the amazing portfolio that he has today. They speak about how Jabbar went about researching his properties and the importance of using every resource possible to best prepare yourself for making financially sound decisions. Jabbar details out how he manages his partnerships, and all of the work that he did behind the scenes to ensure that every investment would thrive.
Key Topics
How Jabbar got started
Perks of house hacking
Benefits of starting young
Role of positive influences
What made him get into STR
Benefits of using learning resources
How to overcome rejection and failure
How to structure partnerships
How to evaluate financial return
Importance of looking to the future
Jabbar’s Instagram
Jabbar’s TikTok
Jabbar’s Facebook
Bigger Pockets
The One Thing
Rich Dad, Poor Dad
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
HostGPO

Mar 31, 2022 • 49min
Taking the Leap and Doing It with Bryan Cataldi
Bryan Cataldi is an accounting professor and real estate investor who specializes in renovated cabins in the Tennessee area. While working as a professor at Western Carolina University, Bryan has been renovating several cabins throughout his market and is continuing to grow his number of investments everyday. He preaches the importance of mindset and discipline in achieving goals, and is a true example of the power of possibility that can come from overcoming self-inflicted roadblocks and life’s everyday challenges and not letting them get in the way of success.
Avery speaks with Bryan about how he got started in the real estate market and how the pandemic created a radical change in his career path. Bryan speaks honestly about the roadblocks he overcame, and how being symbolically backed against a wall can lead to radical change. They go in depth into the intricacies of rehabbing units, specifics of long term development projects and dealing with long term residents. They discuss the sacrifices people need to make when entering the real estate world and the true commitment that it involves. Bryan and Avery also speak about the methodology of choosing which units to purchase, and how personal opinions or reservations should not get in the way of biting the bullet and making a decision.
Key Topics
How Bryan figured out his path
Value of mindset and discipline
Dangers of self-inflicted roadblocks
How Bryan overcame life’s challenges
Bryan’s first properties
Techniques for rehabbing units
Sacrifices when buying and selling
Dangers of personal opinions when picking location
How to manage long term residents
Challenges of development projects
Value of taking action
Ben Burgeron, Chasing Excellence
Bigger Pockets
Rich Dad, Poor Dad
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
HostGPO