
The Economics Show
The Economics Show with Soumaya Keynes is a new weekly podcast from the Financial Times packed full of smart, digestible analysis and incisive conversation. Soumaya Keynes digs deep into the hottest topics in economics along with a cast of FT colleagues and special guests. Come for the big ideas, stay for the nerdery.Soumaya Keynes is an economics columnist for the Financial Times. Prior to joining the FT she worked at The Economist for eight years as a staff writer, where as well as covering trade, the US economy and the UK economy she co-hosted the Money Talks podcast. She also co-founded the Trade Talks podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

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Jul 11, 2025 • 38min
What Trump’s tariffs deadline has (not) achieved, with Dmitry Grozoubinski
Dmitry Grozoubinski, a former Australian trade negotiator and founder of Explain Trade, dives into the aftermath of Trump’s tariff threats. He critiques the effectiveness of these policies, labeling them as largely performative. The conversation explores the unpredictable nature of trade negotiations, particularly regarding countries like the UK and China. Dmitry offers insight into how smaller economies can navigate these challenges and the importance of cohesive international cooperation amidst growing trade uncertainties.

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Jul 9, 2025 • 44min
The Wolf-Krugman Exchange: your questions answered
In this engaging dialogue, Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman shares insights on global trade complexities as countries tighten control over technology and trade. He discusses U.S.-China tensions and their implications for fiscal policies. The conversation also touches on the challenges of cryptocurrency, advocating for international climate tariffs, and navigating the complications of carbon taxes amid rising populism. Krugman's thoughtful critiques illuminate the intersection of economics and democracy in our rapidly changing world.

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Jul 2, 2025 • 44min
The Wolf-Krugman Exchange: The future of the postwar system
In this engaging discussion, Paul Krugman, a Nobel Prize-winning economist and professor at City University of New York, joins Martin Wolf, chief economics commentator at the FT. They dive into how U.S. political turmoil threatens democratic values and the postwar economic order. The conversation reveals the risks posed by diminishing research funding and the importance of innovation. They also explore the disconnect between political decisions and public perception, concluding with a culture-infused reflection on freedom and justice.

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Jun 24, 2025 • 42min
The Wolf-Krugman Exchange: AI hype vs reality
In this engaging conversation, Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman shares insights on the transformative potential of artificial intelligence. He and Martin Wolf delve into whether AI will reshape the job market or merely echo past technological revolutions. They discuss alarming trends in unemployment among recent graduates, the complexity of AI's integration into society, and the contrasting views on its economic impact. With philosophical reflections on intelligence and labor, they offer a thought-provoking take on the future of work.

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Jun 18, 2025 • 43min
The Wolf-Krugman Exchange: The economy in an uncertain world
Join Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, a professor at CUNY and a keen observer of economic trends, as he converses with FT's chief economics commentator, Martin Wolf. They dissect the looming global threats posed by political unrest, particularly at the G7 Summit amid U.S. civic tensions. Krugman highlights vital trade dynamics, especially with China, while addressing America's changing role in global leadership and the need for innovative strategies in a complex world. Their exchange is both critical and insightful, shedding light on today's economic puzzles.

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Jun 11, 2025 • 47min
The Wolf-Krugman Exchange: how the old economic order fell out of favour
Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, a professor and Substack writer, joins Martin Wolf, the Financial Times’ chief economics commentator. They delve into how economic fractures threaten liberal democracies in America and Europe. The discussion navigates rising inequality, the appeal of right-wing populism, and the challenges posed by deindustrialization. Krugman emphasizes the role of government in fostering innovation, while exploring the complex dynamics of economic change and regional identity. An insightful conversation about the shifting economic landscape!

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Jun 6, 2025 • 44min
The Wolf-Krugman Exchange: the crisis of trust
In a thought-provoking discussion, Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman shares insights on the eroding trust in U.S. trade policies and governance. He and Martin Wolf delve into the consequences of abandoned agreements and unpredictable policies. They also explore the fragility of international alliances in light of recent conflicts and the alarming rise in anti-science sentiment affecting academic innovation. Their dialogue touches on the modern political landscape, intertwined with a unique connection to music's role in shaping trust and emotional resonance.

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Jun 4, 2025 • 2min
Coming soon: The Wolf-Krugman Exchange
Join two titans of economics as they dissect the seismic shifts in the global economy following a pivotal political event. Explore the intricate dance of trade wars and how political decisions influence economic policy. Delve into the transformative role of AI in shaping our financial futures. It's an engaging conversation packed with insights on the economic challenges and opportunities ahead!

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Jun 2, 2025 • 26min
How economics wins wars, with Duncan Weldon
In this discussion, Duncan Weldon, an economics writer and author of 'Blood and Treasure', dives into the vital link between economics and warfare. He explains how resource allocation has historically determined military outcomes, from the Vikings to contemporary Ukraine. Weldon also explores how war catalyzes economic evolution, tracing institutions like the Bank of England. He critiques modern defense spending trends, emphasizing the economic supremacy of Europe against Russia. This talk reveals how economic strategies shape the future of conflict.

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May 26, 2025 • 30min
What does China want from the US? With Jay Shambaugh
Jay Shambaugh, former U.S. Treasury Undersecretary for International Affairs, delves into the complexities of U.S.-China relations. He discusses the temporary pause in tariff escalations and what China truly seeks from America. The conversation highlights the contrasting negotiation styles of the Trump and Biden administrations. Shambaugh emphasizes the intertwined nature of trade policy and national security, while advocating for effective communication as key to navigating future economic cooperation.