
The Kyle Thiermann Show
Conversations with intellectual athletes and athletic intellectuals. If you're new here, try starting with #96 Albee Layer, #139 Matt Taibbi, #157 Peter Attia, #206 Chris Ryan, #216 Rick Hanson, #233 Steve Rinella, or #340 Mark Healey.
Kyle Thiermann is a journalist, copywriter, and sponsored surfer for Patagonia. His work spans from editorial (Men's Health, Surfer, Outside) to creative (Patagonia, Yeti, MUD\WTR). He has written billboards above LAX, viral commercials seen by over a hundred million people, and steered better-for-you brands to cultural relevance with breakthrough advertising ideas. Kyle is represented by DiFiore Literary Agency and is in the process of publishing his first book. thiermann.substack.com
Latest episodes

Nov 9, 2023 • 1h 2min
#337 How to Cold Email Someone & Market Your Ideas Across the Digital Hellscape - Nick Hutchison
Nick Hutchison is the founder of BookThinkers, a marketing agency bridging authors and readers. Nick's platform and services have helped authors reach millions of readers. Nick recently authored "Rise of the Reader," delving into mastering reading habits and applying newfound knowledge. Nick reached out to be on my podcast, and it was one of the most seamless pitches I had ever received. In this conversation, we talk about how to cold email someone, build a digital following (fuck if I know) and get your book shared (damn, I’m doing his bidding now.)Follow Book ThinkersIf you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. You can join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. Send voice memos and hate mail to thiermann@substack.com Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 28, 2023 • 1h 43min
#336 PFAS, Bloodwork, Alcohol, & Rethinking Comfort - Keiko Kurita
Keiko Kurita (FNP-BC) is a board-certified family nurse practitioner working in Maine as a Primary Care Provider. She received a Master of Science in Nursing from the University of Southern Maine. Previously, she taught yoga and claims to be inspired by rainbows. I have known Keiko since high school. She has always been one of the most original thinkers I know, with a deep appreciation for science-based tools to better understand health. In this podcast, we explore topics such as the dangers of PFAS and the new lawsuit headed up by Erin Brockovich, basic lab tests and who may want to get them, anemia in girls due to heavy bleeding, B12 vitamins, alcohol, sleep, and how to rethink comfort. Follow KeikoIf you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. You can join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. Send voice memos and hate mail to thiermann@substack.com Writing by Kyle Thiermann is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 3, 2023 • 1h 21min
#335 A Healthy Dose of Despair - Charlie Hart
By popular demand, this is the second podcast I’ve recorded with Mr Hart. At age 24, Charlie Hart (@callingmrhart) became the 10th employee at RXBAR, the protein bar company known for its clean branding and "No BS" campaigns. A natural marketer, Hart quickly rose to lead the brand’s marketing and growth, helping guide the company to a $600m exit before his 30th birthday.Shortly after, Hart has a crisis of sorts, suffering a panic attack at a business meeting in a luxurious restaurant, a story he recounts in this episode.After traveling the world, Hart Founded Sign and Sapien - an agency specializing in advising and investing for early and mid-stage companies and joined Factor75 as Chief Marketing Officer, where he steered the company towards a ~$300m exit.Today, he works as the Chef Marketing Officer for entertainer and entrepreneur Rob Dyrdek, managing and growing his media verticals and portfolio companies. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 23, 2023 • 1h 28min
#334 The Biggest Wave of My Life - Peter Mel (Repost)
This podcast is with one of one of my great surfing heroes. Peter Mel (@Peter_Mel) is the 2011 Big Wave World Champion and the 2013 Mavericks Invitational Surfing Champion and a broadcaster for the World Surf League. Two winters ago, Pete paddled into arguably the best barrel in surfing history. If you dig this podcast, would you be please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It’s takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests to come on the show. You can join my newsletter and book club on Substack. It’s glorious. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 4, 2023 • 2h 3min
#333 Sex, Pleasure, and Asking For What You Want - Amy Baldwin & April Lampert
Amy Baldwin has been on this podcast many times because she’s just the best. She is a Sex and Relationship Coach trained in both the Somatica® and Hakomi Method, Certified Sex Educator, as well as co-owner of a mother-daughter owned online pleasure boutique called Pure Pleasure Shop. Amy has a passion for promoting shame-free, pleasure-focused sexuality education while emphasizing the deep emotional and energetic forces behind great sex and intimate connection, offering everything from private sessions to how-to workshops to erotic empowerment retreats.April Lampert has been a sexual pleasure pioneer since 2008, educating people around the globe about sex toys and sexual health and wellness. She is co-owner and Chief Sales and Partnerships Officer of Hot Octopuss, one of the most innovative and inclusive sex toy brands today. April is an industry personality, mentor and was Woman of the Year in the pleasure products industry in 2016 and has dedicated her life to the business of sexual pleasure. April uses her fun-loving attitude, worldly experience, and quick wit to help normalize the conversations around sex and inspire more pleasure for everyone. Pre-Order The Shameless Sex BookIf you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. You can join my newsletter and book club on Substack. It’s glorious.Send voice memos to thiermann@substack.com Writing by Kyle Thiermann is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Aug 30, 2023 • 1h 19min
#332 - From Teton Gravity Ski Sections to LA Filmmaking - Clayton Vila
Clayton Vila is an X Games medalist skier, award-winning director, and innovator in the realm of street-skiing. It’s wild shit. While working the pro-skier circuit, he began directing his own ski movies, then quickly transitioned to documentaries and branded content for the ski audience and beyond. His unparalleled understanding of professional athletes and their unique struggles has allowed him to highlight the most emotional elements of any story he finds. Vila is only beginning his filmmaking career and has already directed long-form documentaries for ABC and Amazon Prime. Follow Clayton on InstagramIf you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. You can join my newsletter and book club on Substack. It’s glorious.Send voice memos to thiermann@substack.com Writing by Kyle Thiermann is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Aug 15, 2023 • 2h 35min
#331 Parenting in Prehistory - Chris Ryan, Ph.D
If you dig this conversation with Chris Ryan, Ph.D and want more, he’s also featured in episodes 48, 79, 109, and 206.Christopher’s work has been featured just about everywhere, including: MSNBC, Fox News, CNN, NPR, The New York Times, The Times of London, Playboy, The Washington Post, Time, Newsweek, The Atlantic, Outside, El Pais, La Vanguardia, Salon, Seed, and Big Think. A featured speaker from TED in Long Beach, CA to The Festival of Dangerous Ideas at the Sydney Opera House to the Einstein Forum in Pottsdam, Germany, Chris has consulted at various hospitals in Spain, provided expert testimony in a Canadian constitutional hearing, and appeared in well over a dozen documentary films.He was on a wild ride even before co-authoring the New York Times best-seller, Sex at Dawn: How We Mate, Why We Stray, and What it Means for Modern Relationships. After receiving a BA in English and American literature in 1984 he spent the next two decades traveling around the world, pausing in unexpected places to work at decidedly odd jobs (e.g., gutting salmon in Alaska, teaching English to prostitutes in Bangkok and self-defense to land-reform activists in Mexico, managing commercial real-estate in New York’s Diamond District, helping Spanish physicians publish their research). In his mid-30s, Chris decided to pursue doctoral studies in Psychology.Drawing upon his multi-cultural experience, Chris' research focused on distinguishing the human from the cultural, first by focusing on shamanism and ethnobotony—studying how various societies interact with altered states of consciousness and the sacred plants that provoke them—and later, by looking at similarly diverse cultural perspectives on sexuality. His doctoral dissertation was a multi-disciplinary investigation of prehistoric human sexual behavior, guided by the world-renowned psychologist, Stanley Krippner, at Saybrook Graduate School, in San Francisco, CA. Chris’ most recent book is Civilized to Death: Why Everything's Amazing but Nobody's Happy. He puts out a weekly podcast called Tangentially Speaking, featuring conversations with interesting people, ranging from famous comics to bank robbers to drug smugglers to porn stars to authors to plasma physicists.If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. You can join my newsletter and book club on Substack. It’s glorious.Send voice memos to thiermann@substack.com Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Aug 8, 2023 • 1h 39min
#330 Ketamine, Adult Friendships, and Trips to Chile - Jordan Chiu
This damn fine podcast is with a man who has worked as a producer, writer, van builder, winemaker, experiential designer, and restaurant owner. His name is Jordan Chiu and he is one of the most erudite souls I know. In 2018, Jordan built out a van, put his stuff in storage, and drove from California to Argentina. He came back with a lifetime’s worth of lessons, memories, and an incredible partner, who he then tragically lost to suicide after she lost her battle with depression. That loss has fueled his mental health advocacy work and his podcast, Never The Same, which shares stories of people navigating uncertainty and the events that changed them. He can often be found outside on an adventure accompanied by his dog Clover and a good playlist.Many mornings per week, Jordan is awoken by vocal yawns from yours truly. He’s my housemate, sleeps one wall away, and describes my sunrise shrieks as “baby dinosaur groans.” Sorry Jordan, but I’ll never change.P.S. If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. You can get my Friday newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious.Send voice memos to thiermann@substack.com Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Jul 31, 2023 • 1h 3min
#329 - From Tiny Homes to Big Wave Training - Tyler Fox
Tyler Fox is a Maverick’s big wave surfer, entrepreneur, and tiny home dweller. His magazine, Santa Cruz Waves, has been a fixture of the surf community for over a decade. Ever the inventor, Tyler recently pivoted his efforts to 3D printed surfboards and Capture Packs, two ventures we explore in this episode. On a more personal level, Tyler is the dude responsible for getting me into big wave surfing, and his magazine was where I first got my start as a writer. P.S. If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. You can get my Friday newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious.Send voice memos to thiermann@substack.com Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Jul 6, 2023 • 1h 36min
#328 Parent/Kid Dynamics, ROI of Appreciation, & How to Change The Subject - Katie Hendricks Ph.D
Katie Hendricks, Ph.D. is an evolutionary catalyst, contextual disruptor and freelance mentor who has been a pioneer in the field of body intelligence and conscious loving for fifty years. Katie is the co-author of twelve books, including the best-selling Conscious Loving, At The Speed of Life , and Conscious Loving Ever After: How to Create Thriving Relationship at Midlife and Beyond. Her unique coaching and leadership programs have generated hundreds of body intelligence and relationship coaches in the U.S. and Europe. She developed and led the unique Leadership and Transformation Training for 30 years and is currently joining with her community through the Foundation for Conscious Living to create the Big Leap Online Programs. These online videos are designed to support people in coming home to presence, restoring resourcefulness and creating caring communities.If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. Also, you can get my Friday newsletter on Substack, it’s glorious. Send voice memos to thiermann@substack.com Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe