

The Kyle Thiermann Show
Kyle Thiermann
Conversations with intellectual athletes and athletic intellectuals. If you're new here, try starting with #96 Albee Layer, #139 Matt Taibbi, #157 Peter Attia, #206 Chris Ryan, #216 Rick Hanson, #233 Steve Rinella, or #340 Mark Healey.
Kyle Thiermann is a journalist, copywriter, and sponsored surfer for Patagonia. His work spans from editorial (Men's Health, Surfer, Outside) to creative (Patagonia, Yeti, MUD\WTR). He has written billboards above LAX, viral commercials seen by over a hundred million people, and steered better-for-you brands to cultural relevance with breakthrough advertising ideas. Kyle is represented by DiFiore Literary Agency and is in the process of publishing his first book. thiermann.substack.com
Kyle Thiermann is a journalist, copywriter, and sponsored surfer for Patagonia. His work spans from editorial (Men's Health, Surfer, Outside) to creative (Patagonia, Yeti, MUD\WTR). He has written billboards above LAX, viral commercials seen by over a hundred million people, and steered better-for-you brands to cultural relevance with breakthrough advertising ideas. Kyle is represented by DiFiore Literary Agency and is in the process of publishing his first book. thiermann.substack.com
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Dec 1, 2025 • 1h 24min
#402 The Hidden Benefits of Self-Publishing - Adam Skolnick
This podcast is with Adam Skolnick, an award-winning independent journalist and author covering adventure sports, environmental issues, travel and human rights for The New York Times, Outside, Playboy and Lonely Planet. He is the author of One Breath: Freediving, Death and the Quest to Shatter Human Limits, the ghost writer and narrator of David Goggins’ smash hit memoir and audiobook Can’t Hurt Me: Master Your Mind and Defy the Odds, and he is a co-host on the Rich Roll Podcast. His latest book, American Tiger, is available to order now. (I’ve read it and it fucking rocks.) In this episode, we talk about the state of publishing today, the Southern California wilderness, and creativity as lantern offerings. Follow Adam’s Substack here.If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. My first book, ONE LAST QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO, is available to order today. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 24, 2025 • 1h 18min
#401 Photography & Psychedelics - Chris Burkard (Repost)
Tuesday, November 25: Book tour event at Patagonia Santa Cruz @7pm. It’s free. BYOP (Bring Your Own Parent). RSVP here. Okay, onto the podcast…Chris Burkard (@ChrisBurkard) is an acclaimed American photographer, filmmaker, and storyteller known for his breathtaking landscape photography. Born in San Luis Obispo, California, Burkard rose to prominence through his striking surf photography in remote and often icy locations like Iceland, Norway, and Russia’s Kamchatka Peninsula. His work captures the raw beauty of nature, often blending elements of human exploration and environmental grandeur. Burkard’s style is marked by expansive compositions, ethereal light, and a reverence for the wild. Beyond photography, he is also a sought-after speaker, author of several books, and director of award-winning documentaries, including Under an Arctic Sky. A passionate advocate for environmental preservation and outdoor adventure, Burkard uses his platform to inspire others to seek meaningful connections with the natural world. His work has been featured by National Geographic, The New Yorker, Apple, and Patagonia, among others. Whether hanging from a cliff face or paddling through freezing surf, Burkard’s lens invites viewers to embrace discomfort, awe, and the power of the untamed.If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. My first book, ONE LAST QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO, is available to order today. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 14, 2025 • 1h 46min
#400 He Paddled 1,000 Miles Down Baja - Sean Janson (Repost)
Sean Jansen is a freelance writer and seasonal wilderness guide in Yellowstone National Park. He’s intense, slightly awkward, and deeply committed to dancing with the more raw frequencies of human experience. I love this guy. During his off-season from guiding, he partakes in a litany of expeditions from thru-hiking the Pacific Crest Trail to his recent trip, standup paddling more than 1,000 miles down the Baja Peninsula of Mexico. Through recovery from alcoholism, he has moved into a van and spends his time flying fishing trout streams, training for ultra-marathons, and searching the coast for unsurfed waves. With a passion for wilderness and wild places, he often takes his pen and paper on trips and finds ways that the outdoor recreation activities he loves can give back to conservation and environmental areas in need. Follow him on Instagram and read his new book, Paddling with Porpoise.If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. My first book, ONE LAST QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO, is available to order today. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 31, 2025 • 1h 12min
#399 From Surfing Dungeons to Saving Coasts - Mike Schlebach
Mike Schlebach, a South African big-wave surfer and coastal activist, shares thrilling tales from his surfing roots in Kommetjie to the unpredictable waves at Dungeons. He discusses the serious environmental threats posed by diamond mining along the West Coast and his efforts with Protect the West Coast to defend local communities and ecosystems. Mike reflects on the camaraderie within the big-wave surfing community and explores innovative solutions like algae farming, showcasing the intersection of sport and environmental activism.

Oct 17, 2025 • 1h 6min
#398 Navigating an AI Childhood w/ NY Times Writer Jess Grose
Join Jess Grose, an opinion writer for The New York Times and author, as she dives into the complexities of parenting in the digital age. Explore how youth sports are turning into a pay-to-play system and the importance of public access for all. Jess emphasizes the necessity of unstructured play for kids and warns about the potential downsides of AI chatbots on resilience. With her insights on fostering independence, the value of a good editor, and the decline of organized religion, this conversation is both thought-provoking and enlightening.

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Oct 10, 2025 • 1h 9min
#397 Gardening for the Formerly Incarcerated - Chris Buroughs
Chris Buroughs, the director of Garden 31, shares his inspiring journey from 14 years in prison to empowering formerly incarcerated individuals through community gardening. He discusses his recent weight loss and endurance training, even recounting his experience running a marathon behind bars. Chris highlights the importance of personal stories, the role of community in fostering change, and how gardening can engage youth in juvenile detention. He also dives into the therapeutic aspects of faith and shares his passion for growing medicinal plants.

Sep 26, 2025 • 1h 6min
#396 What's Your Big Wave Spirit Animal? - Bianca Valenti
Bianca Valenti, an award-winning big wave surfer and advocate for equal pay in surfing, shares her inspiring journey from childhood surfer to a Mavericks champion. She discusses the intense mindset required for big-wave surfing, including a near-death experience that fueled her commitment to training. Bianca reveals the power of spirit animals in enhancing focus during challenging surf conditions and talks about channeling emotions constructively to prevent burnout. She also details her surf longevity coaching program, aiming for sustainable success in the sport.

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Sep 19, 2025 • 1h 23min
#395 Obama Speechwriter (& Surfer) - David Litt
David Litt, a former senior speechwriter for Barack Obama, shares his unique experiences blending politics and surfing. He discusses his comedic writing process, illustrating the fine line between humor and heartfelt messaging. Litt dives into the intense editing required for his memoir, 'It’s Only Drowning,' reflecting on how surfing became a central theme alongside an unlikely friendship. He also explores the challenges of pushing back against powerful leaders in speechwriting and the joy of connecting with readers on his book tour.

Sep 12, 2025 • 1h 15min
#394 Wilderness Survival for the Sea - Greg Long
Greg Long is the most decorated big wave surfer in history. With 2 Big Wave World Titles and his name etched atop the podium at nearly every big wave contest around the globe, Long has experienced more moods of the ocean than just about any living human today. These days, the 41-year-old is focused on reducing needless ocean deaths through the Big Wave Risk Assessment Group (BWRAG), a course focused on high-surf risk management, covering detailed scenario analysis, breath-hold techniques, CPR/AED certification, open-ocean first-responder techniques, and hands-on equipment education. Although this course is taught by top pros in the sport, the techniques are applicable to all-level surfers. As Long says, “Whether your big wave is 2 feet or 20 feet, this course will have something for you.” I will be at the summit in Hermosa Beach on September 20th-21st, and right now, all listeners of this podcast can get $100 off the course by typing in KYLE100 at checkout. Hope to see you there!If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Aug 22, 2025 • 1h 23min
#393 Comedian. Prankster. Visionary? - Bent Pella (Repost)
Although his comedic talents span the range of current events across the political spectrum, Brent Pella hit the cultural version of a nuclear reactor when he started writing jokes about new age spirituality, conspiracy theories, and human optimization. His videos have gained 500M+ views online, and he was recently named a "Creator to Watch" by the New York Comedy Festival. His debut comedy special, “Conscious Bro” is live on YouTube now. In this conversation, we dove into Brent’s past. He told the story of his first open mic, rapping at UC Santa Barbara, and why, despite the devil on his shoulder, he feels politically homeless. This one originally went live a few months back, and I figured it was worth a repost. If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe


