
Tread Lightly Running Podcast
The Tread Lightly Running Podcast provides data-driven, evidence-based running advice in a practical, accessible, and inclusive manner. . You'll learn about how to run faster, marathon training, the latest fueling science, how to prevent running injury, and more.
Tread Lightly Running Podcast is co-hosted by Amanda Brooks and Laura Norris, MSc. Together, they have over 20 years of coaching experience and have helped thousands of runners reach their goals through 1:1 coaching and group training. They've appeared in Runner's World, SELF, NPR, Outside, and other major media.
Latest episodes

May 6, 2023 • 43min
Episode 13: How to Become a Running Coach, Part 1
Are you curious about how to become a running coach? In this episode of the Tread Lightly podcast, we have a candid conversation about how we became running coaches. We took different paths to get there (the field of Laura's first master's degree may surprise you!) - and your path may look different! This episode also covers running coach certifications and education resources.
The episode content includes:
Educational backgrounds of Laura and Amanda
How we pivoted from journalism and corporate work (Amanda) and humanities and academia (Laura) to full-time run coaching
What Laura’s master's degree in exercise science included
Which running coach certifications we recommend (RRCA, UESCA, USATF)
Continuing education as a running coach, including recommended books
Amanda's Book: https://amzn.to/2MDXNda
Let Your Mind Run: A Memoir of Thinking My Way to Victory by Deena Kastor
Brain Training for Runners: A Revolutionary New Training System to Improve Endurance, Speed, Health and Results by Matt Fitzgerald
Big Book of Endurance Training by Phil Maffetone{read review}
80/20 by Matt Fitzgerald (finally understanding easy runs)
Fast 5K: 25 Crucial Keys and 4 Training Plans by Pete Magill (great for all levels)
Train Like a Pro by Matt Fitzgerald & Ben Rosario
Run Faster from the 5K to Marathon by Brad Hudson & Matt Fitzgerald
Scientific Training for Endurance Athletes by Dr. Philip Skiba
Science of Running by Steve Magness
The Happy Runner by Dr. Megan Roche & David Roche
Roar by Dr. Stacy Sims
Running Rewired by Jay Dicharry

Apr 29, 2023 • 35min
Episode 12: Electrolytes for Runners
Electrolytes are a popular topic when the weather starts warming up! In this episode, we discuss everything you need to know about electrolytes for runners. Electrolytes include sodium, potassium, magnesium, chloride, and calcium. Many of your sports drinks and gels contain these - but what do they actually do? Will electrolytes help you reach your running goals, or are they overhyped?
Discussion points include:
- What are electrolytes?
- What do electrolytes actually do for runners?
- Do electrolytes prevent muscle cramps?
- How do you know if you are a salty sweater
- How much sodium you need in your sports drink
- The concerns around hyponatremia
- If coconut water is a viable alternative
- Our hot takes on popular sports drinks
Plus, we answer a listener question on compression gear.
References:
https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/pages/articleviewer.aspx?year=2007&issue=02000&article=00022&type=Fulltext
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/sms.12637
https://journals.lww.com/cjsportsmed/Abstract/2003/01000/The_Incidence,_Risk_Factors,_and_Clinical.8.aspx
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27768399/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9699060/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32796418/
http://www.dcscience.net/Miller_Pickle_juice_cramps_reflex_2010.pdf

Apr 22, 2023 • 29min
Episode 11: Is Foam Rolling for Runners Worth the Time?
Episode 11 of the Tread Lightly podcast dives deep into the topic of foam rolling! Foam rollers are very popular recovery products. However, you may have seen some social media posts arguing that foam rolling is a waste of time. Should runners foam roll? We take an evidence-based approach to answer that question.
Discussion points include:
- the mechanisms of action of foam rolling, including how it affects your nervous system
- should you foam roll for IT band pain?
- does foam rolling reduce your injury risk?
- should you foam roll before a run?
- should you foam rolling after a run?
- foam rolling mistakes to avoid
Further resources:
https://www.runtothefinish.com/best-foam-roller-for-runners/
https://lauranorrisrunning.com/a-comprehensive-guide-to-foam-rolling-for-runners/
https://www.runtothefinish.com/complete-foam-rolling-guide-for-runners/
https://www.runtothefinish.com/stop-foam-rolling-it-band/
https://www.runtothefinish.com/it-band-solution/
References:
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Apr 15, 2023 • 24min
Episode 10: How Do You Train When You Aren't Preparing for a Race?
Episode 10 answers the question: what should you do when you aren't training for a race? Non-race training includes immediately after a race (off-season) and general fitness/base building phases. You do not always need a race on the calendar as a runner! In fact, many runners thrive long-term when they give themselves some time for less intensive training between races. This episode focuses less on the science and more on practical applications. Amanda and Laura share how they train runners through these times - and train themselves!
If you are a runner and are not training for a race, you may be interested in Amanda's Virtual Run Club! This virtual group is a WEALTH of information, workouts, and support for any phase of training. You can learn more here: https://www.runtothefinish.com/online-running-group/
Additional resources:
https://lauranorrisrunning.com/what-to-do-after-a-goal-race/
https://www.runtothefinish.com/winter-maintenance-plan-for-runners/
https://lauranorrisrunning.com/base-building-running-workouts/
https://www.runtothefinish.com/running-and-weightlifting/
We love to hear from you! If you have questions, comments, or requests for future episodes, you can reach out to us at:
@treadlightlyrunning (Instagram)
@lauranorrisrunning
@runtothefinish
podtreadlightly@gmail.com

Apr 8, 2023 • 31min
Episode 9: What is 80/20 Running?
Episode 9 dives deep into the topic of 80/20 Running! 80/20 running has been a popular concept for around a decade now. You have likely heard about it on Instagram or read books on the topic. In this episode, we dive into the science of 80/20 running - and how you can actually apply it in your training.
Key moments in this episode include:
- The origins of 80/20 running
- What actually is 80/20 running (polarized vs pyramidal training intensity distribution)
- The science of what happens in each training zone
- Do recreational runners need to follow 80/20 running?
- How to implement 80/20 intensity distribution in your own training
- How to account for cross-training such as Peloton workouts
We also answer a bonus listener question: Do runners benefit from doing core strength exercises?
Further reading:
https://lauranorrisrunning.com/training-intensity-distribution-for-runners/
For more on training intensities, listen to Episode Two on Zone 2 Training!
References:
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Apr 2, 2023 • 34min
Episode 8: Carbon Plated Running Shoes
Episode 8 of the Tread Lightly podcast dives into a popular topic: carbon plated running shoes! If you haven't worn them, you've likely seen the bright neon supershoes at races over the past few years. Carbon plated shoes are hugely popular - but are they the right marathon running shoe for everyone?
In this episode, we discuss:
- Responders vs non-responders to carbon plated running shoes
- Do slower runners get the same benefits?
- Injury risk from carbon plated running shoes
- How to choose the best marathon running shoes for you
More resources:
https://www.runtothefinish.com/marathon-running-shoes/
https://www.runtothefinish.com/nike-zoomx-vaporfly-next-2-review/
https://www.runtothefinish.com/nike-alphafly-vs-vaporfly/
https://lauranorrisrunning.com/marathon-running-shoes/
References
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Bhimani et al. (2022). Use of flexible carbon fiber insoles for hallux rigidus: a randomized controlled trial. AOFAS Annual Meeting.

Mar 26, 2023 • 39min
Episode 7: Supplements for Runners
Episode 7 is about supplements for runners! So much could be said about supplements, so this episode is likely part one of many. Supplements for runners is a hot topic, and so we wanted to give evidence-based takes on various supplements.
In this episode, we discuss:
- What to look for in supplements (purity, efficacy, and safety)
- How to determine if you need a supplement
- The science of probiotic supplements!
- Our take on Athletic Greens
- Anti-inflammatory supplements (turmeric and CBD)
- Creatine for runners
- How to choose a protein powder
References:
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Additional resources:
https://www.runtothefinish.com/best-protein-powder-for-women/
Inside Tracker: RUNTOTHEFINISH is 20% off - https://shrsl.com/31y55
Previnex: RTTF15 is good for 15% off
https://lauranorrisrunning.com/no-fuss-nutrition-for-runners/

Mar 19, 2023 • 35min
Episode 6: All About Marathon Pacing
Learn tips on marathon pacing to avoid hitting the wall, adapt strategy based on course profile, downhill marathon pacing, running in hot weather, managing tough parts of the race, setting goal pace, and mastering consistent effort throughout the race.

Mar 12, 2023 • 37min
Episode 5: The Applied Science of Long Run Fueling
Episode 5 covers the topic of long run nutrition! We approach how to fuel long runs and races (15K to ultra) from both science and practice. We want you to understand why you should fuel - along with how you can actually hit your carbohydrate goals in a long run/race without feeling sick.
Topics in this episode include:
- carbohydrate goals for long-distance running
- why fueling on your long runs won't make you gain weight
- how to actually get in all those carbs on long runs
- sport nutrition products vs whole foods
- gut training to avoid GI upset on race day
We mention the Feed in the episode - https://thefeed.com/ (non-affiliate link, Laura really loves this company).
References
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Jeukendrup & Gleeson (2016). Sport Nutrition (4th ed.) Human Kinetics
You can contact us with questions, listener comments, or topics for future episodes at:
@runtothefinish
@lauranorrisrunning
@treadlightlyrunning
email: podtreadlightly@gmail.com

Mar 5, 2023 • 25min
Episode 4: Should Runners Stretch? The Science of Static and Dynamic Stretching
Episode 4 tackles the question: should runners stretch? You may have heard that you always need to stretch before or after runs. Is that true, based on the most recent science? We take an evidence-based approach to our discussion on stretching for runners, including:
- should you stretch before runs?
-types of stretches for runners, including static vs dynamic stretching
- flexibility vs mobility
- why runners don't need to touch their toes
- does stretching reduce your injury risk?
-stretching in general vs stretching directed by a physical therapist
You can contact us with questions, listener comments, or topics for future episodes at:
@runtothefinish
@lauranorrisrunning
email: podtreadlightly@gmail.com
References:
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