

Tread Lightly Running Podcast
Amanda Brooks and Laura Norris
The Tread Lightly Running Podcast provides data-driven, evidence-based running advice in a practical, accessible, and inclusive manner. . You'll learn about how to run faster, marathon training, the latest fueling science, how to prevent running injury, and more.
Tread Lightly Running Podcast is co-hosted by Amanda Brooks and Laura Norris, MSc. Together, they have over 20 years of coaching experience and have helped thousands of runners reach their goals through 1:1 coaching and group training. They've appeared in Runner's World, SELF, NPR, Outside, and other major media.
Tread Lightly Running Podcast is co-hosted by Amanda Brooks and Laura Norris, MSc. Together, they have over 20 years of coaching experience and have helped thousands of runners reach their goals through 1:1 coaching and group training. They've appeared in Runner's World, SELF, NPR, Outside, and other major media.
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Oct 4, 2025 • 32min
How Much Does VO2max Actually Matter?
VO2max is trendy right now - but is training for VO2max legit or grift? We dive into the science of VO2max, how to improve it, and if it actually matters for long-distance runners. Thank you to our sponsors:✨ Upstep: Custom orthotics, molded from the comfort of your home. Use code RUNTOTHEFINISH at https://www.upstep.com/?ref=cajmuang for $20 off your purchase. ✨ FlipBelt: Sleek storage options, including no-bounce running belts and shorts. Use code TLF20 at flipbelt.com for 20% off your purchase. In this episode, you will learn:✅ What is your VO2max?✅ What do VO2max numbers actually mean? ✅ How is VO2max calculated?✅ Is your Garmin’s VO2max estimate accurate?✅ How much does VO2max matter for performance?✅ How to improve your VO2max✅ Can you improve your performance without changing your VO2max?✅ Is VO2max a health indicator?Field Tests for VO2max:Cooper test: After a 10-20 min warm-up, run as far as you can in 12 minutes. Record distance and enter into this calculator. 1.5-mile run test: After a 10-20 min warm-up, run as fast as you can for 1.5 miles. Record distance and enter into this calculator.Lactate threshold test. After a 10-20 min warm-up, run 30 minutes as fast as you can (self-paced, even effort). Your average pace over the final 20 minutes is your velocity at second LT (60-min race pace) and your average HR over the final 20 min is your LTHR. References:🔬 PMID: 17414804🔬 PMID: 36754060🔬https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2025/06/04/bjsports-2025-110186Let’s stay connected:➡️ Tread Lightly Running Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/treadlightlyrunning/➡️ Laura Norris Running on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauranorrisrunning/➡️ Hundreds of evidence-based training tips on Laura’s website: https://lauranorrisrunning.com➡️ Run to the Finish on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runtothefinish/?hl=en➡️ Thousands of running gear reviews and training guides:https://runtothefinish.com/

Sep 27, 2025 • 36min
Behind the Scenes: Getting to Know Us a Bit More
As we approach our 1 MILLION plays marker, we wanted to take you on a peek behind the scenes! Get to know us a little bit more in this special episode where we discuss the podcast, take you behind the scenes on content and production, and share a bit more about ourselves.Thank you to our sponsors:✨ Upstep: Custom orthotics, molded from the comfort of your home. Use code RUNTOTHEFINISH at https://www.upstep.com/?ref=cajmuang for $20 off your purchase.✨ Tailwind: Complete sport nutrition made simple, including hydration mixes, high-carb sport drinks, endurance fuel, and recovery mixes. Use code TREADLIGHTLY20 at https://tailwindnutrition.com/TREADLIGHTLY for 20% off your first purpose.In this episode, you will learn:✅ How we feel about the podcast at 1M listens in✅ How we curate episodes and choose interviews✅ Our backgrounds with running and sport✅ Laura’s experience getting her MSc in Applied Exercise Science✅ Amanda’s experience writing her book✅ What’s shaped our running✅ Our takes on the current state of runningLet’s stay connected:➡️ Tread Lightly Running Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/treadlightlyrunning/➡️ Laura Norris Running on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauranorrisrunning/➡️ Hundreds of evidence-based training tips on Laura’s website: https://lauranorrisrunning.com/➡️ Run to the Finish on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runtothefinish/?hl=en➡️ Thousands of running gear reviews and training guides:https://runtothefinish.com/

Sep 20, 2025 • 39min
What You Need to Know for Running the World Marathon Majors
The World Marathon Majors (New York, Chicago, Boston, Sydney, London, Tokyo, and Berlin) are the most popular races in the world. However, with their popularity come some unique logistical challenges: international travel, jet lag, large crowds, and more. We’ve coached dozens (if not hundreds) of runners through the world majors and bring you our best advice for setting yourself up for an enjoyable and successful race experience at a World Major Marathon. Thank you to our sponsors:✨ Tailwind: Complete sport nutrition made simple, including hydration mixes, high-carb sport drinks, endurance fuel, and recovery mixes. Use code TREADLIGHTLY20 at https://tailwindnutrition.com/TREADLIGHTLY for 20% off your first purchase.✨ Previnex: Previnex creates clinically effective, third-party tested supplements made with high-quality ingredients, including Muscle Health Plus (creatine). Use the code treadlightly for 15% off your first order at previnex.comIn this episode, you will learn:✅ Adjusting your pre-race nutrition around international cuisines✅ Planning for pre-race shakeouts and events✅ How to manage jet lag before your race✅ Navigating start line logistics✅ Can you run a PR at a marathon major?✅ How to get into the marathon majors✅ How much does it cost to run a marathon major?✅ Public transportation at majors marathons✅ Planning for future world marathon majorsReferences: 🔗 PMID: 39981510Let’s stay connected:➡️ Tread Lightly Running Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/treadlightlyrunning/➡️ Laura Norris Running on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauranorrisrunning/➡️ Hundreds of evidence-based training tips on Laura’s website: https://lauranorrisrunning.com/➡️ Run to the Finish on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runtothefinish/?hl=en➡️ Thousands of running gear reviews and training guides:https://runtothefinish.com/

Sep 13, 2025 • 41min
Running for Weight Loss: What an Dietitian Wants You to Know with Lydia Nader-Urdiales
Lydia Nader-Urdiales, a registered dietitian and endurance athlete, shares her expertise on weight loss for runners. She challenges common myths, emphasizing that weight loss can occur without jeopardizing performance or increasing injury risk. Lydia discusses the importance of body positivity, safe fueling during runs, and the complexities of weight fluctuations in marathon training. She also highlights the significance of nutritional quality, common pitfalls to avoid, and the unique nutrition needs of runners, urging a focus on health over the scale.

Sep 6, 2025 • 40min
How to Troubleshoot Common Race Day Problems
Race day seldom goes as planned. Whether you forget to pack something, the forecast isn’t favorable, or you encounter some challenging miles, race day problems can happen to even the fittest of runners. We draw on our years of coaching hundreds of runners to guide you through how to creatively problem-solve various race-day issues. Even when the race doesn’t go your way, you can still come away with a positive experience and maybe even a PR! Thank you to our sponsors:✨ Tailwind: Complete sport nutrition made simple, including hydration mixes, high-carb sport drinks, endurance fuel, and recovery mixes. Use code TREADLIGHTLY20 at https://tailwindnutrition.com/TREADLIGHTLY for 20% off your first purchase.✨ Shokz: Open ear headphones so you can enjoy your music or audiobook while staying safe and aware of your surroundings. Use code RUNTOTHEFINISH for $10 off at https://shokz.com?utm_source=TLR&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=podcastIn this episode, you will learn:✅ What to do if you have to wear new gear on race day✅ Managing race day nerves and appetite suppression✅ How to adjust for a race day start delay✅ How to adjust for different weather scenarios (heat, rain, cold, etc)✅ What to do if you begin to fatigue in the middle of a race✅ How to manage cramping in a race✅ Dealing with nausea during races✅ How to know when to DNFLet’s stay connected:➡️ Tread Lightly Running Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/treadlightlyrunning➡️ Laura Norris Running on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauranorrisrunning/➡️ Hundreds of evidence-based training tips on Laura’s website: https://lauranorrisrunning.com/➡️ Run to the Finish on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runtothefinish/?hl=en➡️ Thousands of running gear reviews and training guides:https://runtothefinish.com/

Aug 30, 2025 • 38min
Why You Need All Training Zones to Improve as a Runner
Zone 2 is the most popular training zone - but is it the only training zone you need? We delve into all five training zones and their unique benefits. You’ll learn how to determine each zone by heart rate, rate of perceived exertion (RPE), and talk test, plus how to use them in training. *Laura misspoke around minute 23. The Cori cycle converts lactate into glucose, not glycogen, to then be shuttled back into the muscles to undergo anaerobic glycolysis. Thank you to our sponsors:✨ Upstep: Custom orthotics, molded from the comfort of your home. Use code RUNTOTHEFINISH at https://www.upstep.com/?ref=cajmuang for $20 off your purchase. ✨ Previnex: Previnex creates clinically effective, third-party tested supplements made with high-quality ingredients, including Muscle Health Plus (creatine). Use the code treadlightly for 15% off your first order at previnex.comIn this episode, you will learn:✅ Why you need to train at intensities beyond zone 2✅ How to calculate your training zones✅ Is it worth running in zone 1?✅ Is zone 3 really “the gray zone”?✅ The value of threshold/zone 4 workouts✅ The benefits of training in zone 5 (interval training)✅ Why heart rate monitoring is less reliable in zone 5✅ Can heart rate zones be used on race day?References:🔬 PMID: 39390310🔬PMID: 38695978🔬PMID: 36900796🔬PMID: 40225831Let’s stay connected:➡️ Tread Lightly Running Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/treadlightlyrunning/➡️ Laura Norris Running on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauranorrisrunning/➡️ Hundreds of evidence-based training tips on Laura’s website: https://lauranorrisrunning.com/➡️ Run to the Finish on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runtothefinish/?hl=en➡️ Thousands of running gear reviews and training guides:https://runtothefinish.com/

Aug 23, 2025 • 40min
Do AI Coaching, Cycle Syncing, Weighted Vests Actually Work? Our Hot Takes On Running Trends
What happens if ChatGPT makes you a training plan? Will wearing a weighted vest protect you from the symptoms of perimenopause? Are continuous glucose monitors the tool for improving your nutrition? We tackle several social media trends and give our unfiltered, evidence-based hot takes.Thank you to our sponsors:✨ Tailwind: Complete sport nutrition made simple, including hydration mixes, high-carb sport drinks, endurance fuel, and recovery mixes. Use code TREADLIGHTLY20 at https://tailwindnutrition.com/TREADLIGHTLY for 20% off your first purpose.✨ Previnex: Previnex creates clinically effective, third-party tested supplements made with high-quality ingredients, including Muscle Health Plus (creatine). Use the code treadlightly for 15% off your first order at previnex.comIn this episode, you will learn:✅ Do you need electrolytes?✅ Our hot take on AI coaching✅ Do nasal strips improve running performance?✅ Are continuous glucose monitors beneficial?✅ Do carbon plated shoes increase your injury risk?✅ Should you change your workouts based on your menstrual cycle (cycle syncing)?✅ Does weighted vest training help perimenopausal athletes?References:🔗https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2023/04/28/ai-programs-consume-large-volumes-scarce-water🔬 PMID: 32683573🔬 PMID: 37658967🔬PMID: 40059889🔬PMID: 28483221🔬 PMID: 24286345🔬PMID: 38600646🔬PMID: 40439067Let’s stay connected:➡️ Tread Lightly Running Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/treadlightlyrunning/➡️ Laura Norris Running on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauranorrisrunning/➡️ Hundreds of evidence-based training tips on Laura’s website: https://lauranorrisrunning.com/➡️ Run to the Finish on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runtothefinish/?hl=en➡️ Thousands of running gear reviews and training guides:https://runtothefinish.com/

Aug 16, 2025 • 34min
Do You Really Need to Change Your Running Form?
The hosts dive into whether changing your running form is necessary, emphasizing personalized approaches over rigid standards. They explore the importance of running cadence, debunking the myth of a one-size-fits-all number. The discussion includes how strength training can enhance form and the significance of posture and arm movement. Listeners learn how fatigue affects form and receive practical drills to optimize their technique. The podcast encourages runners to reflect on their experiences and focus on comfort and natural rhythm.

Aug 9, 2025 • 38min
What Your Running Gel Label Actually Means - with Kylee Van Horn
Isotonic, real food, maltodextrin, sugar-free, and high-sodium: if you have recently shopped for running gels, you likely have seen these terms and more on the labels. We sit down with sports dietitian Kylee Van Horn to understand the labelling on your sports nutrition products and how to pick the best running gel for you. Thank you to our sponsors:✨Tailwind: Complete sport nutrition made simple, including hydration mixes, high-carb sport drinks, endurance fuel, and recovery mixes. Use code TREADLIGHTLY20 at https://tailwindnutrition.com/TREADLIGHTLY for 20% off your first purchase. ✨ Upstep: Custom orthotics, molded from the comfort of your home. Use code RUNTOTHEFINISH at https://www.upstep.com/?ref=cajmuang for $20 off your purchase. ✨ Boulderthon: If you're looking for a scenic Colorado race, Boulderthon offers it all: views, big race vibes, and faster courses this year. Use code RUNTOTHEFINISH to get $20 off registration at https://www.boulderthon.org/ for the half marathon, 10K, or 5K. You will learn:✅ What’s actually in low-sugar gels - and do they work?✅ How to identify non-nutritive sweeteners on your gel label✅ Understanding the types of carbohydrates and glucose:fructose ratios✅ Understanding hyrogels, isotonic gels, and other gel formulations/textures✅ What claims of “clean” and “natural” ingredients actually mean✅ How to find gels that are easy on your gut✅ Do you need to have electrolytes in your gels?About our guest:➡️ Kylee Van Horn is an endurance sports dietitian based on Carbondale, CO. She is a published author and co-host of the Your Diet Sucks podcast. Since 2022, she has worked with hundreds of endurance athletes at Fly Nutrition, helping them improve their performance, heal their relationship with food, and overcome GI issues. ➡️ You can connect with Kylee at @flynutrition3 on Instagram and at https://flynutrition.org/.Let’s stay connected:➡️ Join our community at patreon.com/treadlightlyrunning➡️ Tread Lightly Running Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/treadlightlyrunning/➡️ Laura Norris Running on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauranorrisrunning/➡️ Hundreds of evidence-based training tips on Laura’s website: https://lauranorrisrunning.com/➡️ Run to the Finish on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runtothefinish/?hl=en➡️ Thousands of running gear reviews and training guides:https://runtothefinish.com/

Aug 2, 2025 • 30min
Avoid These Peak Week Training Mistakes
Peak weeks are often discussed in the context of the marathon; however, whether you are training for a short distance like a 5K/10K, a half, marathon, or even an ultra, your training will include a peak week - the week of the highest volume and/or hardest workouts. Peak week is not a magical week - but it does matter in a training build. In this episode, we guide you through what a peak week is, mistakes to avoid, and tips to help you come out of your peak week healthy, fit, and ready to race. You will learn:✅ What is peak week (and how is it different than peak performance)?✅ Understanding the super-compensation theory✅ Is it possible to peak too early?✅ Peak week mistakes to avoid✅ The differences of functional over-reaching, non-functional overreaching, and overtraining✅ What to do if you miss peak week workouts✅ Tips to make the most of your peak week:Thank you to our sponsors:➡️ Shokz: Open ear headphones so you can enjoy your music or audiobook while staying safe and aware of your surroudnings. Use code RUNTOTHEFINISH for $10 off at https://shokz.com?utm_source=TLR&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=podcastLet’s stay connected:➡️ Join our community at patreon.com/treadlightlyrunning➡️ Tread Lightly Running Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/treadlightlyrunning/➡️ Laura Norris Running on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauranorrisrunning/➡️ Hundreds of evidence-based training tips on Laura’s website: https://lauranorrisrunning.com/➡️ Run to the Finish on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runtothefinish/?hl=en➡️ Thousands of running gear reviews and training guides:https://runtothefinish.com/