

GTM Live
Passetto
GTM Live is a new evolution of Revenue Vitals by Chris Walker, now hosted by Carolyn Dilks & Trevor Gibson, Co-Founders of Passetto — a part tech, part advisory GTM agency for high-performing B2B SaaS companies.
This weekly live show is built for CEOs, CFOs & Revenue Leaders who know the current way GTM is executed & measured is broken, and are ready for something better.
We cut through the noise & ditch outdated playbooks. No fluff. No vanity metrics. Just honest, modern conversations about how to track & optimize GTM for what actually matters: unit economics, efficiency & long-term growth.
This weekly live show is built for CEOs, CFOs & Revenue Leaders who know the current way GTM is executed & measured is broken, and are ready for something better.
We cut through the noise & ditch outdated playbooks. No fluff. No vanity metrics. Just honest, modern conversations about how to track & optimize GTM for what actually matters: unit economics, efficiency & long-term growth.
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Jul 3, 2022 • 30min
302 - Dark Social Greatest Hits
In this episode, we pulled together some of the greatest hits of our talks on Dark Social. We start off by clearing up the definition of what dark social is, just in case anyone is still unclear. Once we set the table the stage for what dark social is, we dive into:How it drives buying decisionsHow it aligns your go-to market team with the customer journeyWhy you need to stop focusing on outdated marketing metrics, like MQLsHow to get off the MQL hamster wheelCreating brand affinityand more...Join us every Tuesday at 5 PM ET to ask your question on TikTok by following @chriswalker171

Jul 1, 2022 • 44min
301 - Generating Customer Insights in a Cookieless World | Adweek Webinar
The increase in privacy has been the biggest nudge marketers have needed to start doing marketing the way it was meant to be done. For too long, people have used third party data as an excuse to not do proper customer research. As a marketer, there is no greater superpower than knowing your customer and the programs and channels that are creating demand. In this episode, Chris sits down for a fireside chat to talk about dark social, self reported attribution, and how to generate customer insights in a cookieless world.Join us every Tuesday at 5 PM ET to ask your question on TikTok by following @chriswalker171

Jun 29, 2022 • 1h 40min
300 - The End of an Era: The Final DGL | Demand Gen Live S2 x83
Demand Gen Live has been a Tuesday night staple for hundreds of B2B marketers. Over the past 790 days, we've:- Held 112 Tuesday meetups- Recorded 10,000+ minutes of audio and video- Answered 780+ audience questions- And set a world record for fern puns in a single Zoom chatBut like all good things, DGL is coming to an end. This was the fernal episode of Demand Gen Live. Some might say, the final ferntier. But don't worry, Refine Labs live events aren't dead—this isn't a ferneral. We'll be announcing a new show and time to make the show more accessible to more people in the marketing community!In this episode:- Chris and Gaetano talk about their learnings and what they took away from the DGL community.- Four of our community members speak about how DGL has changed the course of their careers.- And as always, we fielded questions from the audience.Join us every Tuesday at 5 PM ET to ask your question on TikTok by following @chriswalker171

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Jun 26, 2022 • 29min
299 - Creating Demand vs. Capturing Demand | Greatest Hits
In this episode, we pulled together some of the greatest hits of our talks on creating demand vs. capturing demand. We start with some clips where Chris simplifies the topics by defining the difference between creating and capturing demand. After the explanation, we skip forward to how you can take steps to switch the mindset, measurement and execution of your marketing strategy to effectively create demand. Finally, we end the episode by sharing some tips on how you can show leadership that the strategy is working.

Jun 24, 2022 • 38min
298 - Should Display Ads Ever Be Considered? | TikTok Live x6
Every Tuesday at 5:00PM ET we go live on TikTok to answer rapid-fire Q&A. This is our 6th installment and in this episode we cover:- When (if ever) should display ads be considered?- Why specializing is not the best career move- Using standardized metric systems to measure customer experience- How to use CTAs in LinkedIn ads- Video vs static images for LinkedIn ads- Demand Gen for local retail- And much more!Join us every Tuesday at 5 PM ET to ask your question on TikTok by following @chriswalker171

Jun 22, 2022 • 36min
297 - Collecting Insights Through Content That Lead To Innovation | Marketing School
Creating organic content where your buyers hang out is one of the best ways you can collect customer insights. It's your goal as the marketer to learn everything there is to know about the platform and how your customers use it, then optimize your content strategy to be as effective as possible. But how do you measure effectiveness? One of those measurements are your learnings. The comments, DMs, and conversations that are created by putting your point of view out in public can lead to huge insights that can change the way you do business. In this episode, Chris shares his playbook on how to get started creating organic content and then using micro-innovations to maximize insights.Join us every Tuesday at 5 PM ET to ask your question on TikTok by following @chriswalker171

Jun 18, 2022 • 1h 1min
296 - The Demand R&D Pipeline: A Framework for Managing Innovation at Your Company
Marketing is a lot like medicine in the late 1800's. Back then, the way medicine was practiced was through individual observation. A physician would do something for a patient, they would observe the results, and then they would share those results with other physicians. Unfortunately, this is a very inefficient way of furthering the science of medicine. This is where marketing is right now. Lots of individual marketers and teams running experiments and (sometimes) sharing the results.It wasn't until later that the medical community started doing clinical trials where several physicians would conduct research across a controlled environment, get results and then have those results peer-reviewed by a third party. That's where marketing is going and we're calling it "Evidence-Based Marketing".In this episode, Chris talks about what evidence-based marketing is, his early thoughts on how it could be implemented, and what the results could mean for the marketing community.Join us every Tuesday at 5 PM ET to ask your question on TikTok by following @chriswalker171

Jun 16, 2022 • 28min
295 - When You Think Long Term, You Get Better Short Term Results Too | TikTok Live x5
We're back with another TikTok live. We're going beyond our traditional demand gen content and fielding questions on leadership, entrepreneurship, finance, culture, or anything else you want to talk about. In this episode, Chris fields questions on:- Community-led content- Marketing Technology- Thinking about marketing with a long term mindset- How to attract early adopters to you SaaS product- And much more!Join us every Tuesday at 5 PM ET to ask your question on TikTok by following @chriswalker171

Jun 12, 2022 • 1h 27min
294 - MUST LISTEN: 3 Steps to Shifting Your Organization’s Marketing Strategy | Chris Walker Private Keynote
Now is not the time to slow down your marketing. Many companies pull back spending and go into self-preservation mode in slow economic times. The fact of the matter is, that economic slowdowns create an environment of opportunity for companies that know how to leverage them. In this episode, Chris is going to talk about a 3-step framework to make marketing your secret weapon, not only in a recession but forever. He dives deep into how to create demand in your category by changing your Mindest, Metrics, and Execution; in that order.Join the waitlist for our new intellectual capital product, The Vault: https://www.refinelabs.com/waitlistJoin Demand Gen Live every Tuesday at 7:30 PM ETJoin Chris live every Tuesday at 4:00 PM for rapid-fire Q&A on TikTok: @chriswalker171

Jun 10, 2022 • 52min
293 - What B2B Marketers Can Learn From DTC | Gaetano DiNardi
B2B marketers can learn a lot from the direct-to-consumer industry. For one, there is no sales team in DTC. That means marketing has to get a person from awareness, all the way through the checkout process with no outbound sales to help carry the weight. Because of that, DTC marketing strategy is inherently different. Today, we welcome back DGL legend Gaetano DiNardi, a former B2B marketer who transitioned to B2C marketing at Aura - a digital security company that helps consumers stay safe online. In this episode, Gaetano talks about:Why creative and storytelling are so important in DTCHow to win against competitors with deeper pockets and more established brandsPartnering with creatorsHis best advice for B2B marketersAnd more...


