
Invisible Machines podcast by UX Magazine
UX Magazine presents the Invisible Machines podcast.
Conversational AI is going everywhere. Join great conversations with experts in a podcast about AI agents, conversational AI and organizational artificial general intelligence (OAGI), covering the intersection of UX, business, technology and design.
Robb Wilson and Josh Tyson, authors of Age Of Invisible Machines, the first bestselling book about the agentic approach to software and conversational AI, envisioned the moment we’re in with ChatGPT and the AI revolution. Join in as they continue their discussion with leading thinkers and doers.
Latest episodes

Oct 31, 2024 • 37min
S4E12 Designing a Future for AI Natives
Jieun Kiaer, a Professor of Korean Linguistics at Oxford and author of "The Future of Syntax: Asian Perspectives in an AI Age," discusses the complex interplay of Asian languages and AI. She explores the concept of 'AI natives' and how technology alters classroom dynamics. The conversation addresses emotional engagement in human-machine interaction, the ethical implications of AI in arts and education, and how AI can enhance rather than replace human relationships. Jieun emphasizes designing a positive future for younger generations in this fast-evolving landscape.

Oct 17, 2024 • 38min
S4E11 Digital Natives Are Now AI Immigrants
Marc Prensky is widely known for coining the terms “digital native” and “digital immigrant”—both now in the Oxford English Dictionary. In this episode, Marc joins Josh for a conversation about the shortcomings of our current education system and how AI might help inspire and enable a new generation of "AI natives" to design their own future.
The two discuss the challenges that companies face in adjusting to this new technology paradigm, as well as the potential benefits and risks that conversant machines bring to society.
As an eternal optimist, Marc shares his vision of how young people in the third millennium might view productivity and purpose. Marc and Josh also debate the role smartphones play in the classroom of the future, and agree that the world needs more love, empathy, gratitude, and optimism.
In this episode, we mention:
Marc Prensky’s book “Third Millennium Kids: A Hell Yes! Low Stress Guide For Everyone”: https://www.amazon.com/Third-Millennium-Kids-Stress-Everyone/dp/B0DC3J8XV6
Learn more about Marc Prensky: marcprensky.com
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Oct 1, 2024 • 1h 21min
S4E10 Is AI the End of Companies?
With consumer use of AI technology outpacing enterprise adoption, the fear of companies using AI to get rid of employees has been flipped on its head into legitimate threat to the existence of companies as we know them. There’s nothing preventing consumers from using generative tools to disrupt large companies—for example, using a fleet of AI agents to flood and debilitate a call center to take advantage of a promotion.
Harsha Gowda and Nitin Bhudia, respectively the CTO and Director of Innovation at Getronics, join Robb and Josh to discuss the risk organizations take by dragging their feet in the race for AI adoption. This conversation explores how organizations can embrace “artificial incompetence” as a necessary initial phase on the course to artificial intelligence, and seed the velocity that will transform their operations. By using AI agents to create an abstraction layer over existing solutions, organizations can take control of their futures.
In this episode, we mention:
The Invisible Machines episode “Digital Twins in an Agentic World” with Dr. Michael Grieves, the father of Digital Twins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsL3w2bVjmw
The TV series “Fawlty Towers”: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072500/
Learn more about Getronics: https://www.getronics.com/
Discover how to succeed with an agentic approach to software:
https://onereach.ai/ai-agents/?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ai_and_companies_episode&utm_content=1
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Sep 20, 2024 • 1h 9min
S4E9 Digital Twins in an Agentic World
Dr. Michael Grieves, a pioneer in digital twin technology developed during his NASA collaboration, joins the discussion about AI orchestration. He explains how digital twins provide essential context for AI agents, improving efficiency and user experience. The chat delves into the evolution of digital twins and their real-time implications across industries, from aerospace to smart tech. Grieves also tackles the challenge of 'retirementitus,' inhibiting innovation in organizations, and explores practical strategies for implementing digital twins incrementally.

Sep 12, 2024 • 1h 4min
S4E8 Will We Ever Love Using Software?
As AI agents continue to alter the way people interface with technology, Robb and Josh were eager to speak with journalist Matt Alston about his popular Business Insider article “Everyone hates Workday.” In this deep exploration of our multifaceted interactions with machines, Matt reminds us that Workday’s UX is different across a whole spectrum of users, and that generally speaking, people don’t like using software. The patterns we follow when operating software end up shaping our thinking, and as we move into a world dominated by conversational interfaces, it’s important to consider the way these systems are intertwined with our minds. Don’t miss this eye-opening episode about the future of project management.
Learn more about creating and orchestrating AI agents to streamline your business operations: https://onereach.ai/ai-agents/?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=matt_alston_episode&utm_content=1
Article, “Everybody hates Workday”: businessinsider.com/everyone-hates-workday-human-resources-customer-service-software-fortune-500-2024-5
Learn more about Matt Alston: mattalston.com.
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Sep 5, 2024 • 1h 12min
S4E7 Are AI Agents the End of SaaS?
In a fascinating discussion, Janelle Teng, Vice President at Bessemer Venture Partners and former Salesforce product manager, shares insights on how AI agents are reshaping the SaaS landscape. She highlights the urgency for SaaS companies to innovate or face decline, as consumer adoption of AI surges ahead of businesses. The conversation dives into the benefits of a multi-agent approach to automation and the challenges startups face amidst rapid technological changes. Janelle also explores future applications of AI in sectors like healthcare and finance, emphasizing the crucial need for adaptability.

Aug 29, 2024 • 59min
S4E6 How Human Should AI Agents Really Be?
Join Sophie Bushwick, Senior News Editor at New Scientist and a frequent contributor to Science Friday, as she dives into the intriguing world of anthropomorphism in AI. Sophie discusses the emotional connections we form with tech, tracing roots back to Tamagotchis. She explores the ethical challenges corporations face in designing AI and questions whether these entities serve as tools or potential tyrants. Discover how AI can enhance productivity while influencing social interactions—highlighting the delicate balance between usefulness and human-like empathy.

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Aug 22, 2024 • 46min
S4E5 Agentic Micro UIs IN ACTION
Cole Gentile, Solutions Designer at OneReach.ai, dives into the transformational power of micro UIs in enhancing conversational AI. He highlights how these dynamic interfaces improve user interactions by incorporating elements like maps and payment systems directly within chats. The discussion explores how micro UIs simplify troubleshooting, ensure payment security, and revolutionize software design, moving away from traditional approaches. Cole's insights shed light on the future of user engagement and the significant role of AI in creating seamless digital experiences.

Aug 15, 2024 • 1h 14min
S4E4 The Intelligence All Around Us
There are many lenses through which we can view the world, and that's especially true when considering the technologies associated with artificial intelligence. In this episode, James Bridle, author of Ways of Being, joins to explore a multitude of perspectives relating to our ongoing relationship with technology.
James’ book explores the interplay between animals, plants, and machines in the search for planetary intelligence. James offers a broad vision of "thinking" systems that draws from biology, physics, and computation and spurs an investigation of what a corporation is and could become.
Robb, Josh, and James have a dynamic discussion, trying on various lenses for viewing intelligence and uncovering new ideas about technology along the way.
Learn about orchestrating conversational AI agents for your team:
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Get James' book, Ways of Being (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2022): https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374601119/waysofbeing
Learn more about James Bridle and their fascinating work: http://jamesbridle.com
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Aug 8, 2024 • 1h 8min
S4E3 The AGI in Organizational Agility | McKinsey & Co.'s Aaron De Smet
We're rounding out our deep dive on organizational AGI with Aaron De Smet, a Senior Partner at McKinsey & Company who helped identify "The keys to organizational agility" with colleagues back in 2015. As we discussed in our first episode on organizational AGI, agility is a key component to making the journey feasible. Aaron has been exploring organizational AGI for years and connects the dots between organizational longevity and the technologies associated with AI.
This conversation examines the ways our very idea of work is steeped in outdated beliefs and strategies from the industrial revolution and how companies that will survive and thrive in this new era will have to reshape themselves.
Learn more about how to create and orchestrate AI agents:
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Jim Collins, BHAG: https://www.jimcollins.com/concepts/bhag.html
The Friction Project by Robert I. Sutton and Huggy Rao: https://www.bobsutton.net/book/the-friction-project/
To learn more about our bestselling book that began the conversation we continue in this podcast: https://onereach.ai/invisiblemachines/
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