
Winner Take All
Winner Take All is a business & tech news show covering the world of platform businesses, tech antitrust, regulations, and innovation. Hosted by Alex Moazed and Nick Johnson, authors of the Amazon Best-Seller Modern Monopolies.
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Jun 1, 2023 • 47min
Interview with Adrien Nussenbaum, Mirakl Co-founder and CEO - Marketplace Lessons Learned
This week, we had the opportunity to sit down with Adrien Nussenbaum, Co-founder and CEO of Mirakl. With over 400 marketplaces powered by its technology and surpassing $6 billion in gross merchandise volume, Nussenbaum is an invaluable resource into the industry's trajectory and the future it holds.
From humble beginnings in 2012, Mirakl has become a driving force behind the B2B marketplace revolution. The company empowers businesses to create and operate their own online marketplaces, connecting buyers and sellers on a global scale. Mirakl has also launched additional product offerings around related value added services like financing, advertising, finding suppliers, seller operations, and product data.
Nussenbaum’s new book, The Online Marketplace Advantage, is a comprehensive guide to launching, operating, and scaling online marketplaces in today's dynamic eCommerce landscape. The book explores factors driving the exponential growth of online marketplaces and offers insights from 30+ leading brands that have successfully transformed their businesses.

May 9, 2023 • 27min
ChemDirect CEO Tyler Ellison Interview - Logistics and Supply Chain in B2B Chemical Distribution
In this interview, we sit down with Tyler Ellison, the founder of ChemDirect, a leading B2B marketplace connecting buyers and suppliers in the chemical industry. Tyler shares his insights on how logistics and supply chain services have been a key driver for ChemDirect. He also discusses the unique characteristic of having users who are both buyers and sellers on the same B2B platform. This interview provides a fascinating look into the world of B2B marketplaces and the challenges and opportunities that come with connecting buyers and suppliers in a highly specialized industry.
#chemical #supplychain #founderstories
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May 4, 2023 • 37min
Fintech & Payments in B2B Distribution - Interview with Bar Geron, Co-Founder & CEO at Balance
Bar Geron, co-founder and CEO at Balance, discusses digitizing B2B e-commerce payments, the challenges of net terms AR management, the underwriting process at Valance, the success of Balance in the B2B marketplace, and trends in B2B payments.

Apr 20, 2023 • 28min
Fabrice Grinda Interview - The World's #1 Marketplace Investor 📈
In this interview, I speak with Fabrice Grinda, a founder of FJ Labs. With over a thousand unique investments made across different life cycles of FJ funds, Fabrice shares his Marketplace-centric approach to investing, and the importance of investing in extraordinary people who are trying to solve the world's problems. Fabrice also talks about his accidental transition from being a tech founder and CEO to becoming a VC and why he chooses to invest in network effect businesses and marketplaces. Throughout the interview, Fabrice discuss various topics related to investing in marketplaces, including investing in marketplaces all over the spectrum from B2C to B2B, both product and service-oriented platforms. This interview is packed with valuable insights for anyone interested in the world of marketplaces and VC investing!
Fabrice talks about how he believes B2B marketplaces are at the very beginning of their journey both in the US and globally. Fabrice highlights that the penetration of digital is very low in B2B and about how the entire supply chain needs to be digitized, including ERP integration, payments tracking, and how suppliers are involved. Grinda suggests that in some cases, the elasticity of supply and/or demand is such that a platform cannot have a take rate.
Fabrice suggests that there are many tricks to making B2B marketplaces work, such as offering a free tool to the supply side or demand side to help them manage their business better. Also highlighted, that monetization of B2B marketplaces may not come from the transaction of the marketplace component. Instead, B2B marketplaces may monetize through SaaS or by offering ancillary services for insurance, factoring, or logistics. Fabrice gives an example of a hairdresser and barber shop marketplace that grew to a volume of billions of annual GMV and monetized by getting an extraordinary deal on payments and sharing part of that discount with the barber shops.
#venturecapital #marketplaces #investorinsights
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Mar 24, 2023 • 53min
Institute for New Economic Thinking President Rob Johnson | The Meltdown of Trust, Bank Closures 🏦
In this interview, we speak with Rob Johnson, the President of the Institute for New Economic Thinking, about the state of the U.S. economy in 2023 and the recent closure of Silicon Valley Bank. Johnson shares his insights on a range of topics, including:
- The overall health of the U.S. economy and its prospects for growth in the coming year
- The impact of inflation on consumers and businesses, and whether it is likely to persist
- The role of the Federal Reserve in shaping economic policy and its response to recent events
- The closure of Silicon Valley Bank and what it says about the state of the tech industry and the broader economy
Johnson brings a wealth of experience to these topics, having served as Chief Economist of the Senate Banking Committee and as a Managing Director at Soros Fund Management. He is a leading voice on economic policy and has been featured in numerous media outlets.
#economy2023 #economicpolicy #techindustry
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Feb 10, 2023 • 32min
FDIC Chief Innovation Officer Sultan Meghji | Is the U.S. Throwing Away Global Financial Leadership?
In this interview, I sit down with Sultan Meghji, a seasoned entrepreneur and former Chief Innovation Officer at the FDIC. Sultan was the FDIC's first ever Chief Innovation Officer and ended up leaving the position and penning an op ed in Bloomberg titled: Why I Quit as FDIC Innovation Chief: Technophobia. I talk with Sultan about the blockers he ran into at the FDIC and what he witnessed as the agency continuously jury-rigged 20th-century rules to cover 21st-century technology. Get an inside look into Sultan's journey from his background in finance to his innovative work at the FDIC, and gain valuable insights into his thoughts on the future of innovation, crypto, and global leadership in the financial sector.
Why I Quit as FDIC Innovation Chief: Technophobia: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-02-22/i-quit-as-fdic-innovation-chief-because-of-regulators-technophobia
#FDIC #Fintech #innovation —
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Jan 5, 2023 • 35min
Winner Take All #222 | 2023 Predictions, TikTok Under Fire, Inflation Reverberations, EU vs Amazon
We open the show with a look at the ongoing turmoil around TikTok and parent company ByteDance. We look at what AI ChatGPT thinks of TikTok and at news that ByteDance is expanding into enterprise software offerings. Next, Twitter files have revealed that the Federal Government sent payments to Twitter. We look at the emerging evidence about these payments and ponder what Elon being Cheif Twit means for these arrangements. Also covered, the long term effects of the FEDs rate hikes and inflation now coming down, Amazon settling with the EU (sorta)", and an overview of how B2B distributors are looking at tech going into 2023.
00:00 - Follow Applico for the latest on platforms
00:38 - ChatGPT on TikTok
04:32 - ByteDance Expanding to Enterprise Software
05:46 - Why was Twitter paid by the Federal Government?
11:49 - Interest rates and inflation in 2023
19:23 - Amazon settles with the EU
29:08 - B2B Distribution Tech Survey
#techpodcast #b2bbusiness #2023predictions
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Dec 19, 2022 • 41min
JOOR CEO Kristin Savilia Interview | Innovation in FashionTech, B2B Payments, and Wholesale Digitization
I connect with Kristin Savilia to talk about JOOR, a platform that connects brands and retailers globally to deliver seamless digital wholesale management from connection to payment. Applico ranked JOOR #2 in our 2022 Top 50 B2B Marketplaces ranking.
00:00 - Follow Applico for the latest on platforms
00:20 - Joor in Applico's Top 50 B2B Marketplaces ranking
00:44 - Kristin Savilia background
01:31 - What does Joor do?
02:58 - Joor growth and GMV
04:19 - Joor's hybrid apporach to the fashion industry
06:33 - Brands and catagories on Joor
08:59 - Fashion is a relationship business
10:09 - Will Joor look to monetize building new connections/relationships for brands?
11:01 - Marketplace is only one segment of Joor's business
14:18 - The SaaS to marketplace trend
16:47 - Rollout of Joor Pay
20:36 - Joor's international geograpies
22:01 - Partnerships vs building tech yourself
25:01 -- Do retailers get product data from Joor?
26:26 - A one stop procurement solution for retailers, buyers and merchandisers
29:33 - Will Joor expand into other verticals like cosmetics and home?
31:50 - How Joor is approaching sustainability and supply chain vetting
35:39 - Kristin Savilia bullish on this kind of fashion marketplace
37:50 - Joor's focus and priorities for 2023
39:35 - Why DTC brands need to consider wholesale
41:01 - Closing remarks
JOOR | The World's Premier Wholesale Management Platform - https://www.joor.com/
#Joor #fashion #wholesale —

Dec 5, 2022 • 58min
Winner Take All #221 | Amazon vs India, Rogan vs Zuck, B2B Revenue for Home Depot, YComb Switch
It's a packed episode with analysis of Amazon's complaints about regulation in India, YCombinator changing up it's president to Garry Tan, and Home Depot moving into B2B. Also covered in this episode, Reid Hoffman sticks by the blitz scaling strategy, and what Zuckerberg said during his visit with highly scrutinized podcast kingpin Joe Rogan.
00:00 - Subscribe and fight big tech!
01:28 - Amazon vs India regulators
09:27 - YCombinator Exec Changes
15:39 - Home Depot and Lowe's target B2B revenue
24:40 - Was Blitz Scaling a good idea?
29:20 - Zuckerberg on Joe Rogan reactions
#BlitzScale #ycombinator #podcasts

Dec 2, 2022 • 36min
Winner Take All #220 | Farfetch Buys Yoox Net-a-porter, GameStop's Weak NFTs, Tencent is Divesting
The episode kicks off with an in-depth look at Farfetch's deal to buy Yoox Net-a-porter from Richemont. The luxury fashion space is an especially interesting vertical for platform innovation and there's a lot of unpack and ideate on with this new deal. Next, news has come out that Chinese tech giant Tencent is divesting its assets under pressure of an economic downturn and aggressive tech regulation in China. We close the show with a laugh at GameStop's newly launched NFT marketplace.
00:00 - Subscribe and fight big tech!
00:44 - Farfetch YNAP Deal
20:27 - Tencent sells off investments
28:40 - Gamestop's NFT Marketplace
Tencent divestment strategy sends chill through China’s tech sector: https://www.ft.com/content/24f7b605-3052-4476-ae2d-a2d0028e70a4
#businessnews #B2Bnews #platformbusiness —
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