

Desert Fathers with Bishop Erik Varden
Exodus 90
Modern life is like a desert—a parched and barren expanse where the soul thirsts for the living water Jesus promised at the well. Amid the ceaseless distractions and allurements of materialism, God can seem absent. As the Desert Fathers of old fled the noise of the world to seek God in silence, we too have been been called into the desert.
Guided by Bishop Erik Varden, this year-long series—beginning January 1, 2025—invites listeners to encounter the profound wisdom of the Desert Fathers. Drawing from their timeless Sayings, Bishop Varden illuminates the lives of figures like St. Anthony of Egypt, exploring themes such as purity, humility, self-mastery, and repentance. Through their struggles in the wilderness, these early Christians uncovered the transformative power of God’s grace—lessons as relevant today as they were in their time.
Though few of us are called to the monastic life, the spiritual combat of the Desert Fathers resonates with all who seek to follow Christ. As Jesus Himself entered the desert to confront temptation, their wisdom offers guidance for our own battles with distraction and despair, helping us find strength in prayer and discipline.
Bishop Erik Varden, a Cistercian monk and Bishop of Trondheim, Norway, is one of today’s leading Catholic voices. A convert to Catholicism during his studies at Cambridge, he was drawn to the monastic life, ultimately joining Mount St. Bernard Abbey in England, where he eventually became abbot. Through his writing and teaching, Bishop Varden speaks compellingly to a secular world, using the language of beauty to reveal the centrality of our search for God—even when we wander astray.
Join us as we step into the desert together, guided by the wisdom of the ancients, to rediscover the love of Christ that conquers all obstacles. Visit DesertFathers.com to learn more.
We owe a special thanks to our partners. The Desert Fathers with Bishop Erik Varden...
...written by Bishop Erik Varden. You can follow Bishop Varden on his blog, CoramFratribus.com
...produced by EWTN Global Catholic Network
...and brought to you by Exodus 90. Download the Exodus 90 app today and experience uncommon freedom in Jesus Christ with men from around the world.
Guided by Bishop Erik Varden, this year-long series—beginning January 1, 2025—invites listeners to encounter the profound wisdom of the Desert Fathers. Drawing from their timeless Sayings, Bishop Varden illuminates the lives of figures like St. Anthony of Egypt, exploring themes such as purity, humility, self-mastery, and repentance. Through their struggles in the wilderness, these early Christians uncovered the transformative power of God’s grace—lessons as relevant today as they were in their time.
Though few of us are called to the monastic life, the spiritual combat of the Desert Fathers resonates with all who seek to follow Christ. As Jesus Himself entered the desert to confront temptation, their wisdom offers guidance for our own battles with distraction and despair, helping us find strength in prayer and discipline.
Bishop Erik Varden, a Cistercian monk and Bishop of Trondheim, Norway, is one of today’s leading Catholic voices. A convert to Catholicism during his studies at Cambridge, he was drawn to the monastic life, ultimately joining Mount St. Bernard Abbey in England, where he eventually became abbot. Through his writing and teaching, Bishop Varden speaks compellingly to a secular world, using the language of beauty to reveal the centrality of our search for God—even when we wander astray.
Join us as we step into the desert together, guided by the wisdom of the ancients, to rediscover the love of Christ that conquers all obstacles. Visit DesertFathers.com to learn more.
We owe a special thanks to our partners. The Desert Fathers with Bishop Erik Varden...
...written by Bishop Erik Varden. You can follow Bishop Varden on his blog, CoramFratribus.com
...produced by EWTN Global Catholic Network
...and brought to you by Exodus 90. Download the Exodus 90 app today and experience uncommon freedom in Jesus Christ with men from around the world.
Episodes
Mentioned books

7 snips
Jun 17, 2025 • 12min
Episode 25: The Source of Strength
In this enlightening discussion, Erik Varden, a Cistercian monk and Bishop of Trondheim, shares invaluable wisdom on the teachings of the Desert Mothers, particularly focusing on Amma Sara's courageous battle against temptation. He highlights how her unwavering reliance on Christ exemplifies true strength in spiritual struggle. The conversation also delves into the important role women played in desert spirituality and reinterprets temptation as a pathway to growth, emphasizing endurance and faith through life's challenges.

Jun 13, 2025 • 43min
Bonus Roundtable: On Discernment: Three Approaches
Explore the profound teachings of Abba Anthony on the movements of lust: natural, indulgent, and demonic. Discover how the Desert Fathers' wisdom sheds light on the battle for chastity and the impact of technology on temptation. The panel emphasizes practical discernment for fathers guiding their sons towards virtue. Insights into the physiological nature of addiction highlight the importance of fasting and self-regulation. Engage with timeless strategies for navigating modern challenges while nurturing spiritual growth.

Jun 10, 2025 • 12min
Episode 24: On Discernment: Three Approaches
Episode OverviewJoin host Jamie Baxter from Exodus 90 for Episode 24 of Desert Fathers in a Year, titled “On Discernment: Three Approaches.” This episode continues the exploration of the fifth chapter of the Desert Fathers’ systematic collection on lust, featuring a profound saying from Abba Anthony. Guided by Bishop Eric Varden, the episode situates Christian sexuality within human dignity and flourishing, distinguishing natural eros from destructive lust. Recorded during the Kings of Summer initiative, this reflection offers practical wisdom for men seeking to channel their desires toward Christ-like love.Key Themes and ReflectionsAbba Anthony’s Saying: Abba Anthony identifies three types of bodily movement: (1) natural physical urges, neutral and good when guided by the soul; (2) lust fueled by overindulgence in food and drink, linked to gluttony; and (3) demonic impulses driven by spiritual malice, inducing sadness and despair. These distinctions provide a framework for discerning and combating lust.Chastity and Human Flourishing: Bishop Varden emphasizes that the Desert Fathers were not opposed to eros or sex within marriage but condemned porneia (lust as transaction, akin to prostitution). Chastity aligns body and soul, fostering love and happiness, not stifling desire.Reclaiming Anthony’s Wisdom: Contrary to Enlightenment views of Anthony as an unlettered ascetic, his letters reveal intellectual depth. His nuanced approach to lust—affirming natural urges while warning against imbalance and demonic influence—could prevent much pain if taught in seminaries and marriage preparation.Body and Soul in Harmony: Anthony’s teaching rejects the notion that bodily urges are inherently sinful. The pursuit of chastity seeks to restore the fruitful complementarity of body and soul, made in God’s image, through discerning reason and disciplined habits.Practical Discernment: To combat lust, Anthony advises moderating food and drink to equilibrate appetite, avoiding places of past sin, and limiting alcohol (e.g., “never take more than three cups”). Prayer and compunction drive out demonic impulses, elevating the mind toward God’s love.Cultural Misconceptions: The episode challenges the view of Christian sexuality as puritanical, highlighting how lust sabotages self and others. By understanding lust’s roots—natural, indulgent, or demonic—men can redirect passions toward life-giving love.Scriptural and Literary ConnectionsEphesians 5:18: “Do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery,” cited by Anthony to warn against lust fueled by excess.Luke 21:34: Jesus’ command, “Be on guard so that your hearts are not weighed down with dissipation and drunkenness,” underscores the need for vigilance.Athanasius’ Life of Anthony: Reveals Anthony’s rejection of pagan culture, not learning, affirming his intellectual depth.Bishop Varden’s Chastity: Reconciliation of the Senses: Frames chastity as a path to flourishing, aligning with Anthony’s discernment of desire.Action Items for ListenersDiscern Bodily Movements: Reflect on Anthony’s three types of lust. Are your urges natural, fueled by excess, or spiritually destructive? Journal your observations to grow in self-awareness.Moderate Appetites: Limit food, drink, or alcohol this week (e.g., skip a second helping, cap drinks at three) to equilibrate physical passions and reduce lustful impulses.Avoid Tempting Places: Identify and steer clear of environments (physical or digital) where you’ve struggled with lust, replacing them with virtuous activities like prayer or fraternity.Pray Against Demonic Influence: When sadness or despair accompanies temptation, pray a St. Michael prayer or practice compunction to expel spiritual attacks.Spiritual ContextThis episode deepens the discussion on lust during the Kings of Summer initiative, inviting men to meditate on King David and Christian kings via the Exodus 90 app. The reflection emphasizes discernment as a tool for virtue in a culture prone to vice, aligning with the Desert Fathers’ pursuit of perfection.Call to ActionVisit DesertFathers.com to subscribe to the newsletter or submit questions for Bishop Varden’s Q&A in early July (email: hello@desertfathers.com).Share Desert Fathers in a Year with a friend and leave a review to support the podcast.Download the Exodus 90 app to join Kings of Summer, exploring Christ’s kingship through 1 Samuel and historical Christian kings.Engage on social media with #DesertFathers to share how you discern and combat lust.Notable Quotes“The body’s movement, its erotic impulse, is fundamentally neutral, untouched by stains of immorality.” – Abba Anthony“The pursuit of chastity is about reconquering the fruitful complementarity of body and soul.” – Bishop Eric Varden“Lust is the death of love, reducing sexuality to mere transaction.” – Jamie BaxterEpisode HighlightsAnthony’s Intellectual Depth: The episode corrects misconceptions of Abba Anthony as unlettered, highlighting his letters’ sophistication and relevance for modern chastity.Threefold Discernment: Anthony’s framework—natural, indulgent, and demonic lust—offers practical clarity for navigating sexual temptation.Practical Advice: Tips like limiting alcohol and avoiding sinful places provide actionable steps for men pursuing virtue.Next Episode PreviewJoin us next week for continued exploration of lust in the Desert Fathers’ collection. Submit questions for Bishop Varden at DesertFathers.com._________We owe a special thanks to our partners. Desert Fathers with Bishop Erik Varden is...• 🦉...written by Bishop Erik Varden. You can follow Bishop Varden on his blog, coramfratribus.com.• 🎥 ...produced by EWTN• 🧡...and brought to you by Exodus 90, download the Exodus 90 app today

7 snips
Jun 6, 2025 • 40min
Bonus Roundtable: Lust
Join Jared Stout, who focuses on reframing chastity within a cultural context, and Doyle Baxter, who brings historical and philosophical insights, for a deep dive into the challenges of lust and chastity. They explore Abba Poemen’s teachings, emphasizing the idea that genuine chastity leads to human flourishing rather than mere restriction. The conversation contrasts true love with lust, delving into ancient philosophical perspectives and modern implications. Expect practical guidance for navigating these complex issues in today's world.

7 snips
Jun 3, 2025 • 13min
Episode 23: Lust
This discussion dives into the Desert Fathers' insights on lust, presenting it as a self-centered desire that undermines true freedom in Christ. Abba Poemen's teachings emphasize the need for self-mastery and the rejection of pleasure-driven living. The contrast between lust and genuine love is explored, challenging societal views on sexuality. There's a call to reframe Christian moral teachings to highlight dignity, virtue, and human flourishing, rather than mere restriction. These timeless insights urge a deeper understanding of our desires and true spiritual growth.

May 30, 2025 • 37min
Bonus Roundtable: Austerity at Home, Charity Abroad
Desert Fathers in a Year: Episode 22 Bonus Roundtable - Austerity at Home, Charity AbroadEpisode Overview:In this Bonus Roundtable for Episode 22 of Desert Fathers in a Year, host Jamie Baxter, joined by Adam Doyle and Jared, dives into the profound saying of Abba Makarios from the Systematic Collection of the Desert Fathers. The discussion explores the balance between personal austerity and communal charity, reflecting on how the Desert Fathers’ wisdom challenges modern tendencies toward vanity and self-centeredness. This episode concludes the series’ focus on self-mastery before transitioning to the topic of lust next month.Key Discussion Points:Abba Makarios’ Saying: Abba Makarios accepted wine from his brethren to honor their hospitality but compensated by abstaining from water for a day per cup consumed—a severe act of hidden austerity. His disciple intervened, urging the brethren to stop offering wine to prevent Makarios from over disciplining himself.Reversing Vanity: Jamie highlights the human tendency to be indulgent at home while projecting austerity in public, driven by vanity. The Desert Fathers challenge this, urging hidden discipline and outward charity, aligning with Christ’s call to avoid performative piety (Matthew 6:16-18).Charity as the Goal: Jared emphasizes that asceticism is not an end but a means to cultivate love for God and neighbor. The Fathers’ practices, like relaxing disciplines for others’ sake, reveal a deeper purpose: fostering communion over self-display.Learning from the Body: Adam reflects on how the body’s natural longing for food mirrors the heart’s desire for God. Asceticism trains us to prioritize spiritual hunger, countering modern distractions that dull this longing.Hospitality and Discernment: The panel discusses the importance of receiving others’ gifts with gratitude, even if they conflict with personal disciplines. Jamie shares Bishop Varden’s insight: “Principles are important, but more beneficial still is readiness to transcend one’s individual fixed ideas.”Practical Challenges: Adam recounts personal anecdotes—offering a beer to a fasting Byzantine priest and a Benedictine monk eating unpalatable hot sauce out of courtesy—illustrating the need to prioritize others’ feelings over rigid rules. These stories echo the Fathers’ emphasis on joyful acceptance.Avoiding Empty Practices: Jamie cites Bishop Varden’s warning that public displays of austerity can render practices meaningless, squandering spiritual rewards. He references a Newman sermon on St. John, who built his eternal inheritance through hidden sacrifices.Practical Takeaways:Receive with Gratitude: When offered food, drink, or hospitality, accept it with joy, even if it doesn’t align with your preferences or disciplines. Offer any discomfort as a small act of self-denial.Practice Hidden Austerity: Follow the Fathers’ example by keeping your spiritual disciplines private, avoiding the temptation to showcase your piety.Discern with Charity: When faced with conflicts between personal rules and communal needs, prioritize love for others, discerning when to relax or uphold your practices.Reflect on Intentions: When offering hospitality, consider the recipient’s needs rather than your own desires. Ensure your actions build communion, not self-satisfaction.Memorable Quotes:“Principles are important, but more beneficial still is readiness to transcend one’s individual fixed ideas.” – Bishop Erik Varden“A true ascetic will rejoice more in occasions to mortify self-will than in displaying the rigor of his or her observance.” – Bishop Erik Varden“When we put on a show, we lose the reward. It loses its meaning.” – Jamie BaxterCall to Action:Subscribe: Visit DesertFathers.com to join our email newsletter and submit questions for Bishop Varden’s upcoming Q&A in early July. Email questions to hello@desertfathers.com.Share the Podcast: If this episode blessed you, share it with a friend and leave a comment or review to support the show.Join Kings of Summer: Embrace your baptismal call to kingship in Christ with Kings of Summer on the Exodus 90 app. Meditate on King David and Christian kings to cultivate virtue. Download the app or visit exodus90.com.Resources:Learn more about Desert Fathers in a Year at DesertFathers.com.Explore Kings of Summer and other spiritual exercises at exodus90.com._________We owe a special thanks to our partners. Desert Fathers with Bishop Erik Varden is...• 🦉...written by Bishop Erik Varden. You can follow Bishop Varden on his blog, coramfratribus.com.• 🎥 ...produced by EWTN• 🧡...and brought to you by Exodus 90, download the Exodus 90 app today

May 27, 2025 • 11min
Episode 22: Austerity at Home, Charity Abroad
Austerity at Home, Charity AbroadIn Episode 22 of Desert Fathers in a Year, we continue our journey into the wisdom of the Desert Fathers, focusing on self-mastery through the lens of Abba Makarios’ life. This episode explores the delicate balance between personal asceticism and communal charity, drawing from a saying in the Systematic Collection of the Desert Fathers. Host Jamie Baxter and Bishop Erik Varden reflect on how the Fathers discreetly practiced austerity while prioritizing love and fellowship with others.Key ThemesSelf-Mastery and Speech: The Desert Fathers emphasized controlling speech, as it reflects the heart’s state. Examples include Abba Anthony’s visitor likening careless speech to an unkept donkey, Abba Aqilas spitting out an evil word turned to blood, and Abba Sarapion’s transformative confession.Hidden Austerity: Inspired by Christ’s teaching in Matthew 6:16-18, the Fathers hid their ascetic practices to avoid vanity. Abba Makarios exemplifies this by accepting wine from his brethren but secretly compensating with extreme self-discipline.Charity Over Rigidity: The Fathers valued courtesy and fellowship over strict adherence to personal rules. Refusing hospitality, like declining food during Lent, could dishonor hosts and reflect self-satisfaction rather than humility.Balancing Love and Discipline: Abba Makarios’ story illustrates accepting others’ kindness (e.g., drinking wine) to honor their generosity while privately maintaining his spiritual purpose through acts of renunciation, like abstaining from water for a day.Discernment in Charity: The episode cautions against using charity as an excuse for indulgence. Abba Sissos advises seeking rational, love-driven answers when navigating social obligations, avoiding intemperance.Featured Story: Abba MakariosAbba Makarios, when offered wine by his brethren, accepted it joyfully to honor their fellowship, despite its potential to hinder his prayer. To maintain his ascetic commitment, he disciplined himself by forgoing water for a full day per cup of wine consumed—a radical act in the desert’s harsh climate. His disciple, noticing the toll, urged the brethren to stop offering wine, revealing Makarios’ hidden austerity. This story underscores:The importance of accepting hospitality to build community.The need for personal discipline to remain true to one’s spiritual goals.The value of discerning higher goods, prioritizing others’ honor over self-display.Additional InsightsHospitality and Intent: The episode challenges listeners to consider whether their acts of kindness are truly for others or for personal gratification.Humility in Action: A story of Abbot John highlights choosing humility over correction, as he endured a night lost in the desert to avoid shaming his guide.Practical Application: Listeners are encouraged to practice tactful acceptance of others’ offerings and to discern when to relax or uphold personal disciplines for the sake of love.Spiritual TakeawayThe Desert Fathers teach us to balance personal austerity with communal charity. True asceticism lies not in rigid rule-following but in discerning when to set aside practices for love’s sake and when to take them up again in pursuit of self-mastery. As we approach Easter’s fifty-day season, let us emulate Abba Makarios’ example of hidden discipline and outward charity._________We owe a special thanks to our partners. Desert Fathers with Bishop Erik Varden is...• 🦉...written by Bishop Erik Varden. You can follow Bishop Varden on his blog, coramfratribus.com.• 🎥 ...produced by EWTN• 🧡...and brought to you by Exodus 90, download the Exodus 90 app today

May 27, 2025 • 33min
Bonus Roundtable: Necessary Words
Desert Fathers in a Year: Episode 21 Bonus Roundtable - Necessary WordsOverviewIn this bonus roundtable discussion for Episode 21 of Desert Fathers in a Year, host Jamie Baxter and guests Adam, Doyle, and Jared dive into the fourth chapter of the systematic collection of the Desert Fathers, focusing on self-mastery. The episode explores a powerful saying attributed to Abba Serapion, highlighting the liberating power of confession, the importance of vulnerability, and the role of spiritual fathers in overcoming sin. The discussion emphasizes the timeless wisdom of the Desert Fathers and its relevance for modern Christian life, encouraging listeners to embrace truth, communion, and accountability.Key Themes and Insights1. The Power of Confession and VulnerabilitySaying Summary: Abba Serapion, as a young monk, secretly stole rusks (hard bread) after meals, unable to resist the urge due to shame and silence. When visitors prompted his elder, Abba Theanas, to speak about hiding thoughts and self-control, Serapion was convicted, confessed his sin, and experienced a dramatic spiritual liberation, symbolized by a fiery lamp and sulfurous stink leaving his chest.Liberating Truth: The panel reflects on the transformative power of confessing sins, which breaks the isolation and despair fostered by hidden habits. Serapion’s confession not only freed him but became a testimony passed down through generations (from Abba Theanas to Abba Moses to Abba Cassian).Modern Relevance: In an individualistic culture valuing privacy, the saying challenges listeners to reject the “demonic” tendency to withhold weaknesses, emphasizing vulnerability as a path to communion with God and others.2. The Role of Spiritual FathersRelational Healing: Jared highlights Bishop Varden’s insight that Serapion’s sin created a relational wedge between him and his spiritual father. Confession restored this communion, underscoring the necessity of spiritual fathers to guide and reflect God’s fatherly love.Communal Beings: As bodily and social beings, humans need earthly mentors to embody divine accountability and love. The panel contrasts this with modern dualism, where one might rely solely on a distant “heavenly Father” without earthly guidance.Father Wound: The absence or rejection of spiritual fathers can hinder spiritual growth, mirroring the impact of a biological father wound.3. The Unity of Desert TraditionLegacy of Names: Doyle notes the saying’s chain of attribution (Cassian, Moses, Serapion, Theanas), reflecting the Desert Fathers’ humility and unity. They sought no personal fame, blending into a cohesive tradition rooted in St. Anthony, as Bishop Varden emphasized.Timeless Words: The careful preservation of these names and words, despite the “tsunami” of modern information, underscores their spiritual power, memorized and transmitted for 1,700 years.4. Fraternity and AccountabilityConfession as Icebreaker: Doyle shares a personal experience from an Exodus 90 Freedom Summit, where men’s vulnerable confessions of struggles (anger, alcohol, lust) united 200 participants, proving that shared accountability fosters communion and healing.Reciprocal Vulnerability: In small groups, leading with openness (e.g., Doyle’s sharing of past struggles with drugs and alcohol) sets a tone for authentic sharing, countering surface-level conversations.Bishop Varden’s Warning: Hidden habits and half-truths give the “hater of good” (the devil) an opportunity. Bringing sins to light through confession is the path to freedom.5. Providence and CourageGod’s Disposition: Adam reflects on Serapion’s realization that God orchestrated the visitors’ conversation, prompting his confession. This “disposition of God who loves mankind” reveals divine providence in painful circumstances.Courageous Response: Serapion’s choice to confess, seeing God’s hand in the moment, models the courage needed to respond to grace, leading to his liberation and potential sainthood.Application Today: The panel encourages listeners to trust God’s providence in their struggles, responding with perseverance and faith for transformation.6. Practical Takeaway: Communal AccountabilityAdam’s Exercise: Form a group text with trusted friends to confess sins (e.g., pornography, gluttony) by texting “I failed.” Within 24 hours, group members fast from a meal for the person’s good. This practice:Facilitates self-examination by tracking habitual sins.Fosters communion through reciprocal love and support, as St. Thomas Aquinas defines it).Brings light to hidden struggles, breaking the devil’s strategy of isolation.Habit Formation: Small, consistent acts of confession and fasting can lead to profound spiritual growth, echoing the Desert Fathers’ emphasis on daily discipline.7. The Danger of HabitsJared’s Reflection: Both good and bad habits, done daily, shape one’s life. Unchecked sins, dismissed as “just one time,” can lead further astray, while consistent virtues draw one closer to God, offering hope for transformation.Memorable Quotes“Beware if you find yourself developing clandestine habits… You may be giving the hater of good an opportunity that he does not deserve.” – Bishop VardenCall to ActionJoin the Kings of Summer Challenge: Download the Exodus 90 app or visit Exodus90.com to participate in a summer challenge reading 1 Samuel, focusing on the virtues of King David and Saul to overcome spiritual malaise.Engage with the Podcast: Visit desertfathers.com to subscribe to the newsletter, submit questions for Bishop Varden’s Q&A, or share the podcast with a friend. Leave a comment or review to support the show.Practice Accountability: As Adam suggested, form a trusted group to confess sins and fast together, growing in holiness through communal support.

May 20, 2025 • 12min
Episode 21: Necessary Words
Necessary Words: Confession, Freedom, and the Danger of Silence🏜️ Welcome to Desert Fathers in a Year!In today’s episode, we explore the powerful story of Abba Serapion, who struggled with a seemingly small vice—secretly stealing rusks after meals. What unfolds is a deeply human and spiritual lesson in shame, secrecy, and the liberating power of confession.When Serapion finally confesses his hidden sin to Abba Theonas, he is immediately freed from its grip, spiritually and even physically. His story shows how silence can become a prison, and how naming our sin—however small—can break the devil’s hold on us.We also contrast this with Abba John Kolobos, who fled rather than utter a single angry word, highlighting that while some words must be withheld, others must be spoken—for the sake of the soul.Key Themes:Hiding thoughts from spiritual guides: Why it damages us and delights the enemyConfession as liberation: The act of speaking the truth frees us from spiritual bondageThe illusion of small sins: Why seemingly minor habits (like stealing dry bread) can form deeply ingrained patternsSubtle bondage: How secrecy fosters isolation, shame, and spiritual despairSpiritual psychology of the Fathers: Insight into how habits harden and how grace intervenesRight speech and restraint: Knowing when to speak—and when silence is an act of virtueQuote of the Episode:“By speaking out about yourself, you have slain the demon that wounded you through your silence.” – Abba TheonasRelated Scripture & References:James 5:16 – “Confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed.”John Cassian’s Conferences – Source of today’s accountProverbs 28:13 – “Whoever conceals his transgressions will not prosper, but he who confesses and forsakes them will obtain mercy.”Reflection Questions:Are there small habits in my life that I excuse or hide?Do I have someone I can speak honestly with—a spiritual director, a confessor, a trusted friend?Am I holding on to silence that is wounding me?When have I experienced the healing power of confession or accountability?Challenge This Week: Take five quiet minutes today and ask the Lord: “Is there a word I need to speak?” Whether to Him, a priest, or a friend—step into the light, and say what needs to be said.Subscribe & Share: If this story challenged or encouraged you, share it with someone who needs to be reminded that God’s mercy meets us in truth—and sets us free.We owe a special thanks to our partners. Desert Fathers in a Year is...• 🦉...written by Bishop Erik Varden. You can follow Bishop Varden on his blog.• 🎥 ...produced by EWTN• 🧡...and brought to you by Exodus 90, download the Exodus 90 app today

May 15, 2025 • 43min
Bonus Roundtable: Words that Wound
Desert Fathers in a Year: Episode 20 Bonus Roundtable - Words That WoundEpisode OverviewWelcome to the bonus roundtable discussion for Episode 20 of Desert Fathers in a Year, hosted by Jamie Baxter from Exodus 90. In this episode, titled "Words That Wound," Jamie is joined by Adam, Doyle, and Jared to explore a powerful saying from Abba Achillas in the Desert Fathers' systematic collection, focusing on the theme of self-mastery. The discussion delves into the spiritual, literary, and practical implications of overcoming the temptation to respond to hurtful words with bitterness, drawing parallels to Christ’s example of sacrificial love.Key Themes and ReflectionsThe Saying of Abba Achillas: An elder visits Abba Achillas and sees him spitting blood, which Achillas explains is the result of a brother’s wounding words. Rather than speaking the hurtful word, he prayed for God’s grace, transforming the word into blood, which he spat out, finding peace and forgetting his grief. This vivid imagery highlights the spiritual discipline of resisting sinful speech and absorbing pain for the sake of love.Self-Mastery and Christian Heroism: The hosts contrast the classical heroism of Achilles in The Iliad—driven by rage and resentment—with the Christian heroism of Abba Achillas, who absorbs betrayal and pain in imitation of Christ. Jared reflects on Hebrews 12:4, noting that resisting sin to the point of shedding blood can mean taking on personal suffering rather than inflicting it on others.Breaking the Cycle of Violence: Drawing on René Girard’s scapegoat theory, Doyle discusses how mimetic rivalry fuels cycles of violence, which only an innocent party—like Christ—can break. Abba Achillas’ choice to “let the evil stay with me” mirrors this, stopping the cycle of verbal violence through self-control and charity.Words as Weapons: The hosts explore how sarcasm, gossip, and backbiting can wound deeply, especially when coming from those closest to us. Adam shares a workplace story of being publicly blamed via email, illustrating the temptation to retaliate and the wisdom of pausing before responding.Philosophical Insights: Doyle engages Friedrich Nietzsche’s critique of Christian morality as disguised resentment, arguing that Abba Achillas’ actions refute this by demonstrating genuine virtue rooted in love, not bitterness. Bishop Varden’s reflection underscores that acting on passions projects a “sick vision of the world,” while overcoming them reflects spiritual health.Practical Struggles: Jamie shares a personal story about reacting angrily on the golf course and later in family life, highlighting how petty annoyances can trigger uncharitable speech. He also recounts receiving constructive criticism from his wife about his podcast delivery, initially reacting defensively but ultimately embracing humility to improve.Scriptural and Literary ConnectionsRomans 12:17-21: “Repay no one evil for evil… If your enemy is hungry, feed him… Overcome evil with good.” This passage frames the discussion of transforming wounds into acts of love, likened to heaping “burning coals” that purify rather than shame.Hebrews 12:4: “In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.” This verse connects Achillas’ blood imagery to the Christian call to suffer for righteousness.The Iliad: The hosts contrast the rage of Achilles with Abba Achillas’ self-mastery, redefining heroism as sacrificial love.Lord of the Rings: Jamie likens Achillas’ stand against evil to Gandalf’s confrontation with the Balrog at the Bridge of Khazad-dûm, symbolizing the choice to absorb evil for the sake of others.Action Items for ListenersExamine Your Speech: Incorporate a review of your words in your nightly examen. Reflect on moments where you spoke charitably or uncharitably, and seek grace to grow in self-mastery.Pause Before Responding: When emotionally triggered, especially in written communication like emails, wait until the next day to respond. This prevents reactive, wounding words.Redirect Gossip: When conversations veer into backbiting, intentionally say something positive about the person being discussed to redirect the dialogue toward charity.Embrace Silence: Building on last week’s action item, practice silence in conversations to cultivate patience and avoid hasty, hurtful speech.Spiritual ContextThis episode airs during the Easter season, a time of sustained joy and celebration of Christ’s resurrection. The hosts also express gratitude for the recent election of Pope Leo XIV, lifting him up in prayer. The discussion is framed by prayers for humility, integrity, and protection against idle chatter, invoking St. Michael the Archangel.Call to ActionVisit DesertFathers.com to subscribe to the newsletter or submit questions for the next Q&A with Bishop Varden.Share Desert Fathers in a Year with a friend and leave a review or comment to support the podcast.Download the Exodus 90 app to join the Easter 50 spiritual exercise, designed to deepen your joy and freedom in the resurrection.Closing PrayerThe episode concludes with a prayer for grace to follow Abba Achillas’ example, to overcome wounding words, and to imitate Christ’s love. The hosts pray for Pope Leo XIV, the podcast community, and spiritual protection, closing with the St. Michael prayer.Quote of the Episode“This evil stays with me. I will not pass it on.” – Bishop Varden, summarizing Abba Achillas’ resolve.Next Episode PreviewJoin us next week for more wisdom from the Desert Fathers. Submit your questions for Bishop Varden at DesertFathers.com.Saints of the EpisodeSt. Achillas, pray for us!________We owe a special thanks to our partners. Desert Fathers with Bishop Erik Varden is...• 🦉...written by Bishop Erik Varden. You can follow Bishop Varden on his blog, coramfratribus.com• 🎥 ...produced by EWTN• 🧡...and brought to you by Exodus 90, download the Exodus 90 app today


