A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder

Drew & Garden System
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Sep 30, 2025 • 54min

Supporting the Challenges of Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder

An unscripted interview: Drew & Garden System discuss supporting the challenges of living with dissociative identity disorder. Topics include disclosure, boundaries, and ideas for those who are supporting loved ones with DID.Thank you to our sponsors:Healing Selves TherapeuticsTo Life! CounselingFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
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Sep 16, 2025 • 1h 2min

Understanding Recovery & 12 Steps for Dissociative Identities: An Interview with Dr. Jamie+ Marich

Drew & Garden System have an illuminating conversation with Dr. Jamie+ Marich on recovery, the 12 step program, and dissociative identity disorder. They touch on important topics such as sponsors, adaptations and language, and considerations needed for recovery.Resources: https://jamiemarich.substack.com/p/does-aa-work Thank you to our sponsors:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness & Healing Selves Therapeutics!Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to learn more about our online community, consultations, and to join our mailing list to keep up to date with Drew & Garden System!Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
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Sep 2, 2025 • 1h 16min

Ketamine Assisted Therapy & Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Melissas Parker, LMHC

Drew & Garden System discuss all things related to ketamine-assisted psychotherapy, other psychedelics, and dissociative identity disorder with Melissas Parker, LMHC.Thank you to our sponsors: (sponsorship of this episode does not indicate an endorsement of KAP or psychedelic therapies.)Healing Selves Therapeutics - https://www.healingselvestherapeuticspllc.com/Yvonne Fall, LPC -https://www.yvonnefalllpc.com/Resources:Maps.orghttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10979792/https://www.natalierusspsyd.com/therapy-harmhttps://www.yalemedicine.org/news/ketamine-for-depressionVisit acoupleofmultiples.com to join our private, online DID community ($10 or $30/monthly memberships), schedule consultations, and join our mailing list!Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
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Aug 19, 2025 • 1h 12min

Queering EMDR Therapy & Understanding Dissociation in the LGBTQIA+ Community: An Interview with Rev. Karla Fleshman LCSW, MDiv

Drew & Garden System have an open-hearted discussion with Rev. Karla Fleshman on her contributions to Queering EMDR Therapy, an upcoming book edited by Roshni Chabra LMFT and with a forward by Dr. Jamie Marich. They dive into Rev. Karla's battle with cancer, spirituality, how gender identity can contribute to dissociative experiences, and how one can find healing and community.Preorder Queering EMDR Therapy here:  https://queeringemdr.com/You can reach out to Rev. Karla Fleshman LCSW MDiv here:  https://transitionsde.com/about-karla-fleshman-lcsw-mdiv-2/ Thank you to our sponsors:To Life! Counseling - https://tolifecounseling.com/Healing Selves Therapeutics - https://www.healingselvestherapeuticspllc.com/Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to contact us, to schedule a consult with Garden System, to join Hearts Multiplied, our on-line DID community, and join our mailing list for exclusive resources!Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
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Aug 5, 2025 • 1h 12min

Differential Diagnosis: Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Dr. Mike Lloyd

Drew & Garden System engage Dr. Mike Lloyd of the CTAD clinic in the UK in an educational conversation about recognizing, diagnosing, and treating dissociative identity disorder.Thank you to our episode sponsors:Healing Selves Therapeutics https://www.healingselvestherapeuticspllc.com/  &  To Life! Counseling https://tolifecounseling.com/Visit our website acoupleofmultiples.com to learn more about our online community, peer coaching, and consultations! Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
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Jul 22, 2025 • 45min

Exploring Expressive Arts for Dissociative Disorders: An Interview with Alix Amar, LCSW

Drew and Garden System have an artistic discussion with Alix Amar, LCSW about various express arts activities and how they can be beneficial for survivors of trauma particularly those with dissociative identity disorder. Specific expressive artistic activities are explained and resources for trainings and continued exercises are provided throughout the episode.Alix Amar, LCSW, one of our sponsor's for season 4, offers a number of workshops for survivors living with a dissociative disorder. You can sign up at https://www.dissociativecreativeexplorations.com/.Thank you to our sponsors for this episode:Alix AmarInstitute for Creative MindfulnessFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
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Jul 8, 2025 • 1h 28min

Recovering From Eating Disorders When You Have DID: An Interview with Monika Ostroff LICSW, CEDS-S

Drew & Garden System interview Monika Ostroff LICSW, CEDS-S (creator and host of Healing My Parts Podcast) and talk about treatment for eating disorders when a client also has dissociative identity disorder. In depth topics include navigating different selves, their eating behaviors and working on internal communication. They discuss the impact of trauma on the development of eating disorders, and various myths surrounding DID and eating disorders. They also touch on the meaning of HAES and body dysmorphia experienced as a result of DID in addition to having an eating disorder.Thank you to our sponsors:To Life! CounselingInstitute for Creative MindfulnessFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
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Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 20min

Ritual Abuse & Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Dr. Alison Miller

Drew & Garden System have an insightful and informative conversation with Dr. Alison Miller, the author of Demystifying Mind Control & Ritual Abuse: A Manual for Therapists. Dr. Alison Miller shares important signs that therapists should be aware of when assessing for ritual abuse in their clients with DID and provides education on overcoming the programming of mind control.Thank you to our amazing sponsors:Institute for Creative MindfulnessPetals of a RoseFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
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Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 32min

Finding the Right Care: Inpatient Treatment For Dissociative Identity Disorder, Interview with Donna Earle LPC, CCTP

Drew & Garden System discuss in-patient/hospitalization care for people living with dissociative identity disorder with Donna Earle, LPC, CCPT. They cover important topics such as helpful tips for hospital staff, the differences between the different levels of care, and identifying potential treatment centers. Please note that the hospitals and treatment centers listed are NOT recommended or endorsed by A Couple of Multiples/Mindful Multiplicity Institute LLC. Please research facilities before admittance.Facilities mentioned include: Sierra Tucson in Arizona:  https://www.sierratucson.com/ Sanctuary Centers in Santa Barbara:  https://sanctuarycenters.org/ The Meadows in Wickenburg, Arizona:  https://www.themeadows.com/ The Meadows in Dallas, Texas:  https://meadowsoutpatient.com/locations/dallas-tx/ River Oaks in New Orleans, Louisiana: https://riveroakshospital.com/ Khiron Clinics in the UK:  https://khironclinics.com/Thank you to this episode's sponsors:Healing Selves TherapeuticsTo Life! CounselingFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
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May 27, 2025 • 1h 1min

Using EMDR to Heal When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Amy Wagner, LMFT/LMHC

Drew & Garden System have a candid conversation with Amy Wagner, LMFT/LMHC! Amy Wagner is an EMDRIA approved consultant and they all discuss the many dos and don'ts of using EMDR when clients live with dissociative identity disorder. They discuss the eight phases, resourcing skills, and what to do when clients dissociate or switch during session. You won't want to miss this amazing discussion!Thank to our sponsors for this episode:Alix Amar with Dissociative Creative ExplorationsHealing Selves TherapeuticsAmy Wagner,  is a Holistic Trauma Transformation therapist who helps people reclaim the intuitive and connected relationships in the most important parts of their lives.  She is an EMDRIA Approved Consultant and Advanced EMDR Topics Trainer. She owns a boutique group trauma therapy practice in Orlando, specializing in working with clients who experience complex and developmental trauma.  Amy loves to use EMDR and Expressive Arts to help clients on their healing journey.Amy lives a multi-faceted life, both internally and externally.  After dropping out of college to begin a dance studio at age 19, Amy helped dancers get to their big stage for 15 years.  When life pivoted, she began a real estate career as she raised her two children.  A spiritual calling and her own inner healing led her back to college and then grad school to become a relationship and trauma therapist as her children went off to college.  As a therapist, Amy has been transformative in helping other therapists learn to reduce stigma and embrace the healing journey of trauma transformation for their clients.  Her course, Soul of Dissociation, sold out during the first two offerings.  Amy is on a mission to help healers embrace collective healing by reducing the stigma of “othering”.  Amy is passionate about the interplay of intergenerational trauma, peak performance and athlete mental health which she discusses in the book in progress, “Cart Path Only”.When not working, Amy travels the world with her professional golfer daughter, visits her son and daughter-in-love in VA, and spends abundant time with her family.  She lives in Windermere, FL with her husband and sweet golden retriever.Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

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