
Talent Acquisition Leaders Podcast - Recruiting, Staffing, Human Resources
On the Talent Acquisition Leaders Podcast, your host Ryan Dull of SageMark HR interviews today’s industry leaders in talent acquisition to discuss challenges, best practices, and what the future holds.
If you are working in talent acquisition and have always wanted to sit down with your peers at other companies and pick their brain, this show is the next best thing.
Topics for the show will include: recruiting, talent acquisition, recruiting technology, HR tech, and recruiting innovation..
Join us each week as we bring you a new talent acquisition interview and extract their expertise.
Latest episodes

Mar 1, 2022 • 50min
Ryan Dull and Phil Strazzulla on the State of the TA Industry
On this episode of the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast, Ryan Dull gives his outlook on the current state of the TA industry in an interview with Phil Strazzulla, Founder of Select Software Reviews.
Ryan has been in the talent acquisition and recruiting industry for nearly 27 years, and began in a corporate capacity. Eight years ago he started Sagemark to help TA leaders modernize their systems so they can scale up quickly and efficiently.
Phil is an industry leader in the world of HR and recruiting software. Through his company, he helps HR leaders find the best software for their specific business needs, maximizing efficiency and ROI.
Ryan and Phil talk about today’s market, which is the most challenging market they have ever seen. This is due to many factors including the pandemic, the great resignation, and remote work.
It is very much a candidates’ market, and employers need to adapt their processes to be more candidate-friendly — or they will lose out on attracting top talent.
Ryan and Phil dive into the challenges recruiters and talent acquisition leaders face, and offer solutions for navigating the rough seas of today’s market. It’s an eye-opening conversation that is both informative and entertaining.
Phil Strazzulla
Ryan Dull
This episode is brought to you by SageMark HR.
Sagemark HR can help you:
✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.
After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.
✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.
We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.
✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.
We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.
If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:
www.sagemarkhr.com
ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com

Feb 2, 2022 • 18min
Complexity and Simplicity with Jon Finch of Milwaukee Tool
On this episode of the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast, host Ryan Dull welcomes Jon Finch, SVP of Talent at Milwaukee Tool, a tool manufacturing company that has invested heavily in technology and innovation across its power tool and hand tool businesses.
Jon boasts a lengthy career at the company, starting more than 20 years ago as a sales rep calling on hardware stores and lumberyards in four states. After taking on several different sales roles, he worked his way into recruiting sales and marketing hires. He took on his talent acquisition position in the fall of 2020.
Having such a diverse career path has helped Jon approach TA with a well-rounded business perspective. When he took over, he instinctively knew he needed to look at the available technology to maximize efficiency in hiring and to track important business metrics.
Having the right tech stack in place allows him to manage growth in a realistic way, based on those business metrics. This approach allows him to give other areas of the business realistic numbers and timelines so that everyone’s expectations are realistic and attainable.
Having the right technology in place is critical for success today.
Jon Finch
Milwaukee Tool
Milwaukee Tool
ryan-dull
sagemark-hr
www.sagemarkhr.com
This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.
Sagemark HR can help you:
✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.
After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.
✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices but also deliver tangible business results.
We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.
✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.
We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.
If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:
www.sagemarkhr.com

Jan 11, 2022 • 29min
Ryan Dull’s Interview on the Recruiting Future Podcast with Matt Alder
This episode of the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast offers a bit of a twist; Ryan Dull is the guest. This is a repost of the Recruiting Future podcast with Matt Alder, and Matt and Ryan discuss Ryan’s career path, the challenges TA professionals face today, and what the future holds.
Ryan spent the first 18 years of his career in corporate recruiting, both in the trenches and in management positions. Along the way, he became enamored with technology and how it could make the life of TA professionals easier.
The problem in the early and mid-2000s was that the tech ecosystem was fragmented and confusing. Ryan decided to develop a system so that he and his team could identify their exact problems and fill those needs with the most useful tech. He struck out on his own eight years ago, forming Sagemark HR. He has helped more than 200 organizations with their tech needs since then.
Ryan and Matt talk about the unprecedented market today and how important it is for organizations of all sizes to have their tech stack in order. Ryan believes that every situation is unique and should be treated as such when choosing technology solutions.
This episode is brought to you by SageMark HR.
Sagemark HR can help you:
✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.
After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.
✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.
We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.
✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.
We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.
If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:
www.sagemarkhr.com
ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com

Jan 4, 2022 • 13min
Getting Students Excited About Insurance with Maura Quinn of Liberty Mutual
On this episode of the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast, host Ryan Dull welcomes Maura Quinn, assistant vice president, university, DEI & emerging talent acquisition at Liberty Mutual Insurance.
Maura’s story is an interesting one. She started at Liberty directly out of college, and she was the first college graduate hired straight out of school in the human resources department. There wasn’t a recruiting role at the company at that time.
She was introduced to a group of interns early on, through a program Liberty sponsored, and took to it immediately. She convinced her boss at that time that recruiting students should be her job, even though that job didn’t exist. Nearly 20 years later she is still at it.
She has built up an impressive program over the years. The company has grown from 33 interns in that initial program to over 1,800 entry-level interns in college hires on an annual basis.
She’s excited about their diversity, equity and inclusion programs. They currently recruit at all 102 Historically Black Colleges and Universities, unlike most companies that concentrate only on the top five.
She’s done some great work and it’s a fun conversation.
Maura Quinn
Liberty Mutual Insurance
Liberty Mutual Insurance
This episode is brought to you by SageMark HR.
Sagemark HR can help you:
✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.
After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.
✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.
We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.
✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.
We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.
If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:
www.sagemarkhr.com
ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com

Dec 13, 2021 • 23min
Rebuilding for a Positive Business Impact with Rob Daugherty of Lowe's
On this episode of the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast, host Ryan Dull welcomes Rob Daugherty, Vice President of Talent Acquisition, Lowe's Companies, Inc.
Rob talks about his career journey in the TA space which, like many people, started with a conversation with a headhunter when he didn’t know what a headhunter was. He started at a boutique agency in Chicago and eventually moved into a corporate role at Kinko’s when they were moving from California to Texas. He spent time at several companies, including American Airlines, before landing at Lowe’s at the beginning of 2020.
Rob enjoys the challenge of building or rebuilding an organization. He has done this at several organizations, and his latest rebuild began when he started at Lowe’s. They have a tremendous volume—over 7,500 hires per week—and when he started, the hiring system was labor-intensive and inefficient.
He put automation systems in place and the results have been remarkable. Candidate satisfaction of the hiring process has jumped to a staggering 98% positive, and hiring manager satisfaction is 94%. He streamlined the process from a week to just 13 minutes.
That’s taking rebuilding to another level.
Rob Daugherty
Lowe’s
ryan-dull
sagemark-hr
www.sagemarkhr.com
This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.
Sagemark HR can help you:
✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.
After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.
✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices but also deliver tangible business results.
We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.
✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.
We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.
If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:
www.sagemarkhr.com

Oct 19, 2021 • 17min
Staying Nimble with Steffanie Chaviano of Autism Learning Partners
On this episode of the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast, host Ryan Dull is joined by Steffanie Chaviano, Director of Talent Acquisition and Strategy at Autism Learning Partners, a full-service treatment provider for children with Autism and their families.
Steffanie tells Ryan about her career journey, which included a few years of recruiting in corporate dentistry before ending up at ALP three and a half years ago.
She has seen a lot of changes as a Talent Acquisition leader, and she believes that TA professionals need to be nimble and open to change. As she points out, things that worked for you in the past, even just a month ago, may not work in today’s recruiting environment.
She also talks about the importance of working hard every day, even on days when it seems like a thankless job. She recommends that young TA professionals have clear career goals and show up to work every day with those goals in mind. It has worked for her over the years. It is excellent advice for any TA professional.
Steffanie Chaviano
Autism Learning Partners
ryan-dull
sagemark-hr
www.sagemarkhr.com
This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.
Sagemark HR can help you:
✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.
After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.
✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices but also deliver tangible business results.
We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.
✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.
We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.
If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:
www.sagemarkhr.com

Oct 13, 2021 • 13min
Building a Team with Brent Schreckengost of Calix
On this episode of the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast, host Ryan Dull welcomes Brent Schreckengost, Director of Global Talent Acquisition at Calix. Calix provides cloud and software to communications service providers to enhance their subscribers’ experience.
Brent sums up his journey into the TA space, which started 15 years ago at a recruiting agency. He worked in several agency and in-house environments, making valuable connections along the way. He was brought in at Calix in April of 2021 to build their TA organization.
Before Brent got to Calix they were not very organized with their TA efforts, and they used several outside agencies. Brent saw that this wasn’t scalable so he set out to bring the function in-house. He has five recruiters and one sourcer on his team now, and it continues to grow.
Brent tells Ryan about the culture they have built, especially when it comes to employees recruiting talent, no matter what department they work in. These efforts have been successful, with referral hiring up 35%+ in one quarter.
He says that young talent coming into the TA space need to be careful not to get complacent. Complacency is the enemy of greatness. Solid advice.
Brent Schreckengost
Calix
Calix
ryan-dull
sagemark-hr
www.sagemarkhr.com
This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.
Sagemark HR can help you:
✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.
After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.
✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices but also deliver tangible business results.
We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.
✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.
We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.
If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:
www.sagemarkhr.com

Oct 5, 2021 • 22min
Maintaining Intellectual Curiosity with Trent Cotton of Bureau Veritas Group
On this episode of the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast, host Ryan Dull welcomes Trent Cotton, VP Talent Acquisition & Retention at Bureau Veritas Group, a global company that performs various types of testing, inspection, and certification.
Trent talks about the unique aspect of his particular job. He has to identify and recruit specialized talent to fill many of their open roles, because not everyone is qualified to perform testing, inspections, or certifications.
In order to get the best results, Trent’s first order of business at his new position has been to analyze all the processes he inherited and figure out ways to improve and streamline them. He admits to being a bit of a technology junkie, and he is a big fan of automating any process with the latest tools available; not to replace humans, but to make their lives easier.
His advice for young professionals coming into the TA profession is to never lose your intellectual curiosity. He reminds people that nobody has all the answers, so keep asking questions, keep learning, and keep growing as a professional and as a person.
Trent Cotton
Bureau Veritas Group
ryan-dull
sagemark-hr
www.sagemarkhr.com
This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.
Sagemark HR can help you:
✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.
After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.
✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices but also deliver tangible business results.
We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.
✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.
We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.
If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:
www.sagemarkhr.com

Sep 28, 2021 • 14min
Humanizing Recruiting with Sara Fatima of Verifone
Sara Fatima, Head of Global Talent Acquisition at Verifone joins host Ryan Dull on this episode of the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast to talk about her career journey; how Covid has affected the TA landscape; and how storytelling through social media can be a powerful tool for organizations to personalize the experience candidates have with them during the hiring process.
Sara got her degree thinking computer science was going to be her career path. She wanted to interact with people, which eventually led to her starting in talent acquisition.
Her time in corporate recruiting has included stops at Autotrader, Cox Automotive, IBM, and now Verifone, where she was tasked with the big job of bringing a global recruiting system, which had always been outsourced, in-house.
Covid has been challenging for all TA professionals, and Sara has the additional challenge of hiring in 65 different countries. She talks about the strategic approach they are taking to be intentional about how their team members will work in a post-pandemic environment.
Sara also talks about the Great Resignation, and how she thinks of it as an opportunity to rebrand their organization to make it more attractive for candidates.
Sara Fatima
Verifone
Verifone
ryan-dull
sagemark-hr
www.sagemarkhr.com
This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.
Sagemark HR can help you:
✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.
After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.
✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices but also deliver tangible business results.
We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.
✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.
We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.
If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:
www.sagemarkhr.com
ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com

Sep 14, 2021 • 16min
Be Humble and Willing to Learn with Blair Dugan of BeiGene
Blair Dugan, Sr. Director, Human Resources, at BeiGene joins the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast on this episode, and she shares with host Ryan Dull her background as a TA leader in the biotech, life sciences, and pharmaceutical industries, and her role now at a rapidly growing global organization.
Blair got her start at a staffing agency, which she recommends for anyone starting a career in recruiting and talent acquisition. That led to agency work, which led to in-house positions in science industry companies, where she discovered that this kind of work was her passion.
She says her current company, BeiGene, is unique in that the company’s mission and focus are on helping people regardless of location or income. This helps with recruiting because it gives top talent a feeling that they are part of something bigger than themselves.
Being humble and willing to learn is something she learned early on in her career, when she didn’t really understand some of the lab based roles she was filling. It’s advice she would give to anyone in the industry, regardless of experience level.
Resources
Blair Dugan
BeiGene
BeiGene
ryan-dull
sagemark-hr
www.sagemarkhr.com
This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.
Sagemark HR can help you:
✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.
After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.
✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices but also deliver tangible business results.
We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.
✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.
We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.
If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:
www.sagemarkhr.com
ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com
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