

Talent Acquisition Leaders Podcast - Recruiting, Staffing, Human Resources
Ryan Dull
On the Talent Acquisition Leaders Podcast, your host Ryan Dull of SageMark HR interviews today’s industry leaders in talent acquisition to discuss challenges, best practices, and what the future holds.
If you are working in talent acquisition and have always wanted to sit down with your peers at other companies and pick their brain, this show is the next best thing.
Topics for the show will include: recruiting, talent acquisition, recruiting technology, HR tech, and recruiting innovation..
Join us each week as we bring you a new talent acquisition interview and extract their expertise.
If you are working in talent acquisition and have always wanted to sit down with your peers at other companies and pick their brain, this show is the next best thing.
Topics for the show will include: recruiting, talent acquisition, recruiting technology, HR tech, and recruiting innovation..
Join us each week as we bring you a new talent acquisition interview and extract their expertise.
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Dec 16, 2025 • 15min
What Adaptable TA Leadership Looks Like in Today’s Fast-Changing Hiring Landscape with Daja Davis of Avis Budget Group
The future of TA is changing quickly, and leaders who embrace adaptability, data and technology are setting the pace. Host Ryan Dull sits down with Daja Davis, Director of Talent Acquisition at Avis Budget Group, to explore her career journey, the transformation of Avis Budget Group’s hiring strategy, and the mindset required for long-term success in TA. They discuss Daja’s non-linear path from retail to admissions to automotive recruiting, how she leads high-volume hiring across the Northeast and Central regions, and the innovations shaping their TA function today.Key Takeaways:00:00 Introduction.02:30 Daja describes her path from retail to TA and her passion for recruiting.04:25 Avis Budget Group is a global mobility provider with a large regional TA structure.05:54 TA transformation centered on process, people and technology.08:06 This year’s TA priorities focus on consistency, fulfillment, experience and retention.10:10 Technician hiring surged after strengthening organization and pipeline management.12:06 A focus on urgency led to structured outreach and faster interview scheduling.13:11 Growth isn’t always vertical — lateral moves can unlock bigger opportunities.14:25 The future of recruiting focuses on adaptability and embracing change.Resources Mentioned:Daja Davishttps://www.linkedin.com/in/dajadavisAvis Budget Group | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/avis-budget-groupAvis Budget Group | Websitehttps://www.avisbudgetgroup.com/"Miles" - Avis Budget's AI chat toolhttps://www.avisbudgetgroup.jobs/This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.Sagemark HR can help you:✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:www.sagemarkhr.com✉ ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com#Talent #Recruiters #Recruiting

Nov 25, 2025 • 20min
How Transparent Leadership Accelerates Change Across Modern TA Organizations with Meg Struble of ServiceNow
The pace of change in talent acquisition has never been faster, and leaders are being challenged to rethink how teams, tools and processes evolve. On this episode, Meg Struble, Senior Director of TA Transformation, Optimization, and Excellence at ServiceNow, joins host Ryan Dull to discuss Meg’s career path, her approach to leading transformation in TA and how her team is preparing for the future of recruiting in an AI-driven landscape. She also explains how ServiceNow’s rapid growth is reshaping TA priorities, why transparency and authenticity matter more than ever and how her team uses data and new models to guide smarter decisions. Key Takeaways:00:00 Introduction.02:38 Early work in university admissions sparks Meg’s path into TA.04:35 ServiceNow streamlines work by unifying AI, data and workflows on one platform.06:28 A role complexity model improves how recruiter capacity is measured.08:44 Effective change hinges on clear communication and alignment.10:40 Authentic, transparent leadership keeps teams aligned through complex change.12:14 Admitting gaps in knowledge fosters stronger collaboration.14:11 TA metrics guide performance today while AI enables more predictive insights.18:10 TA leaders benefit from staying close to where real work and value are created.Resources mentioned:Meg Strublehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/megstrubleServiceNow | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/servicenowServiceNow | Websitehttps://www.servicenow.com/Gemba (Six Sigma concept)https://www.sixsigmadaily.com/what-is-a-gemba-walk/This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.Sagemark HR can help you:✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:www.sagemarkhr.com✉ ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com#Talent #Recruiters #Recruiting #HRTech

Oct 21, 2025 • 20min
The TA Shift That Cuts Hiring Time by 40% with Cortney Grant of Johnson Controls
Building a world-class recruiting function takes more than filling roles — it’s about strategy, technology and getting close to the work. On this episode, host Ryan Dull is joined by Cortney Grant, Director of Global Talent Acquisition of Johnson Controls. They discuss Cortney’s journey from agency recruiting to leading global TA functions, how specialization and automation transform hiring outcomes and why understanding operations on the ground drives better recruiting strategies. Cortney shares how strategic changes reduced time-to-fill by 40%, how AI is reshaping high-volume recruiting and why measuring quality of hire is just as critical as speed.Key Takeaways:00:00 Introduction.02:35 Cortney shares how agency recruiting built her tenacity.04:46 Leading high-volume recruiting at Amazon during the peak of COVID demand.08:31 An opportunity to scale TA through RPO improved time-to-fill.10:09 Two recruiter tracks built deeper subject expertise.12:05 The two-track model isn’t one-size-fits-all and must align strategically.14:00 AI dominates conversations, driving a shift in recruiter training.18:14 Happy teams drive business success, and tenacity is key in today’s job market.Resources Mentioned:Cortney Granthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/cortneygrant/Johnson Controls | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/johnson-controlsJohnson Controls | Websitehttps://www.johnsoncontrols.com/This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.Sagemark HR can help you:✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:www.sagemarkhr.com✉ ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com#Talent #Recruiters #Recruiting #HRTech

Sep 23, 2025 • 12min
Blending AI and Human Insight To Define TA Success with Carin House of Grainger
Navigating talent acquisition at scale requires a balance of technology, candidate experience and recruiter-driven success metrics. On this episode, host Ryan Dull is joined by Carin House, Director and Talent Acquisition Partner at Grainger. They discuss her career journey, the scale of Grainger’s hiring operations, and how her team measures success in TA. Carin also shares initiatives that shape the candidate experience and her advice for those building careers in recruitment.Key Takeaways:00:00 Introduction.02:31 Carin graduated from law school in 2008 and joined Grainger through a temp job.03:57 Grainger is a global MRO distributor with a mission to keep the world working.06:08 Carin’s team measures TA success with recruiter-driven metrics.08:24 The future of TA lies in blending AI innovation with human connection.10:05 Always ask the question in your mind — it can spark valuable insights.10:39 Mistakes are opportunities to learn and move forward.Resources Mentioned:Carin Househttps://www.linkedin.com/in/carin-house-7a7936b8Grainger | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/w.w.-grainger/Grainger | Websitehttps://www.grainger.com/This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.Sagemark HR can help you:✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:www.sagemarkhr.com✉ ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com#Talent #Recruiters #Recruiting #HRTech

Sep 9, 2025 • 27min
Structuring Early Careers Teams To Support Large-Scale Campus Hiring with Jeff Ollinger of Sun Life
Balancing innovation with the human side of hiring is shaping the future of talent acquisition. On this episode, host Ryan Dull is joined by Jeff Ollinger, Director, Talent Acquisition – Corporate and Campus, of Sun Life. They discuss Jeff’s career journey, the evolution of his role and the strategies Sun Life is deploying to strengthen both campus and experienced hiring. Jeff shares how his background in athletics and early career experiences led him into HR and TA, eventually shaping his leadership approach. He highlights the scope of Sun Life’s hiring operations, the company’s student conversion strategy and its focus on inclusion through specialized programs.Key Takeaways:00:00 Introduction.02:36 Jeff shares how he became an accidental HR professional.05:07 Jeff’s journey from RBC to the tech sector to broaden his campus recruitment work.10:07 Sun Life hires 500–700 students annually, with a focus on full-time conversion.13:45 Student recruitment is balanced all-year-round, not just in the summer.18:03 Sun Life prioritizes manager and new hire satisfaction with a seamless experience.20:12 Internal hiring is a priority for developing talent and filling senior roles.22:14 AI is used to boost efficiency and insights, while decisions remain human-led.25:10 Be open to unexpected career paths and new ways of doing business.Resources Mentioned:Jeff Ollingerhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffollingerSun Life | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/sun-life-financialSun Life | Websitehttps://www.sunlife.com/en/Dean Connor Inclusion Scholarshiphttps://www.sunlife.ca/en/careers/student-and-new-graduate-programs/scholarship-guidelines/This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.Sagemark HR can help you:✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:www.sagemarkhr.com✉ ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com#Talent #Recruiters #Recruiting #HRTech

Aug 12, 2025 • 19min
Developing TA Functions That Match the Complexity of Global Growth with Michael Peterson of Edwards Lifesciences
Predictable hiring isn’t just possible —it’s essential. On this episode, host Ryan Dull is joined by Michael Peterson, Sr. Director of Global Talent Acquisition – Talent Sourcing, Intelligence and Innovation at Edwards Lifesciences, to explore how strategic planning, data-driven practices and a consumer-minded approach are shaping modern TA functions in highly regulated industries. Michael walks through his path from aspiring pilot to TA leadership, sharing lessons from roles across healthcare, tech and international organizations. From building teams from scratch to redefining success metrics, Michael also offers practical insights into the evolving TA landscape.Key Takeaways:(00.00) Introduction.(02:35) Michael pivoted from aviation to a career in TA leadership.(04:48) Edwards Lifesciences leads in heart valves, with 17 on Michael’s TA team.(05:59) Intelligence and innovation functions are early, with one analytics role in place.(07:58) The Valencia plant proves the strategy works and uncovers key process gaps.(10:11) TA taught the business the market’s tough — now it’s about how to act on it.(12:52) Quality of hire is the top priority, even if measurement still needs work.(15:12) TA priorities include field roles, tech optimization and guiding AI innovation.(17:01) Focus on doing the right thing, not on being liked.Resources Mentioned:Michael Petersonhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/taleadermichaelkpeterson/Edwards Lifesciences | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/edwards-lifesciences/Edwards Lifesciences | Websitehttps://www.edwards.com/This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.Sagemark HR can help you:✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:www.sagemarkhr.com✉ ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com#Talent #Recruiters #Recruiting #HRTech

Jul 29, 2025 • 25min
Reconstructing TA To Meet Evolving Business Demands with Chris Ross, Head of TA of North American Packaging at International Paper
A career shaped by competition and strategy is now fueling transformation in talent acquisition. On this episode, host Ryan Dull is joined by Chris Ross, Head of TA of North American Packaging at International Paper. Chris shares insights from nearly 25 years in TA, including agency work, leadership roles at Johnson & Johnson, and now guiding strategic transformation at International Paper. They discuss his unique path from Division I college hockey player to recruiter, and how his hands-on agency experience shaped his leadership approach. Key Takeaways:(02:32) Transitioning from hockey to headhunting in medical sales.(05:10) Early corporate TA experience begins at Monster during its startup heyday.(10:00) Strategic TA work unfolds, backed by strong leadership and a 19-person team.(13:18) DS Smith deal grows IP to 60,000 and expands EMEA reach.(14:55) A focus on listening and observation reveals early opportunities in team structure.(18:12) Recruiting efficiency becomes priority, with Gem and Beamery aiding speed to fill.(20:21) TA metrics shaped by J&J experience guide internal and executive priorities.(24:09) Growth comes from stretching beyond your comfort zone and taking the leap.Resources Mentioned:Chris Rosshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisrossrecruiter/International Paper | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/international-paper/International Paper | Websitehttps://www.internationalpaper.com/Monster.comhttps://monster.comMathWorkshttps://www.mathworks.com/Johnson & Johnsonhttps://www.jnj.com/DS Smithhttps://www.dssmith.com/Beameryhttps://beamery.com/Gemhttps://www.gem.com/This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.Sagemark HR can help you:✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:www.sagemarkhr.com.✉ ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com#Talent #Recruiters #Recruiting #HRTech

Jul 15, 2025 • 25min
Enhancing Candidate Experience Through Feedback Loops with Josh Dudzik of Inova Health
Talent acquisition in healthcare demands a unique blend of strategy, adaptability and human-centered leadership. In this episode, host Ryan Dull speaks with Josh Dudzik, Associate Vice President of Talent Acquisition at Inova Health, about transforming TA practices to support a growing health system. Josh shares how his team revamped Inova’s talent acquisition structure by introducing a dedicated sourcing function that has already delivered significant ROI. He also dives into the importance of balancing AI with human touchpoints, optimizing referral programs and engaging early-in-career talent through proactive workforce development. Key Takeaways:(02:30) Josh starts in agency recruiting and grows into system-level TA leadership.(04:46) Inova averages 6,000–7,000 hires annually, supported by low turnover.(09:38) Recruiters turn survey feedback into action plans that drive progress.(12:29) TA teams must balance tech adoption with maintaining human connection.(15:31) Early outreach and military transition programs expand future talent pipelines.(17:59) Referral sourcing shows strong results and is being scaled with the right tech.(21:01) Don’t overlook small wins — celebrating success boosts team morale.(22:55) Own your data and use it to tell a clear, consistent TA story.Resources Mentioned:Josh Dudzikhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/joshdudzik/Inova Health | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/inovahealth/Inova Health | Websitehttps://www.inova.org/This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.Sagemark HR can help you:✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:www.sagemarkhr.com✉ ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com#Talent #Recruiters #Recruiting #HRTech

Jun 24, 2025 • 22min
Evolving the Internship Experience Into Strategic Hiring with Jenny Hofler of Labcorp
Stepping outside your comfort zone can shape your career in unexpected and rewarding ways. That’s exactly what Jenny Hofler, Director, Early Career Recruiting, Global Talent Acquisition at Labcorp has done — and now she’s building opportunities for early career talent at a global scale. On this episode, she joins host Ryan Dull, and they discuss how Jenny’s journey from a communications graduate to a TA leader has informed her passion for early talent and inclusive hiring.Key Takeaways:(02:33) Jenny’s non-traditional entry into talent acquisition.(04:20) Her transitions across Fidelity, MetLife, AWS and eventually to Labcorp.(06:37) An overview of Labcorp’s global presence and mission.(07:59) Internships across the globe — from the US to Singapore and Bulgaria.(10:00) Enhancing internal and external communications around early talent.(13:34) Leveraging data to improve conversion, diversity and retention.(15:40) Taking ownership of the internship experience beyond recruitment.(16:51) What’s next: evolving internship programming and university outreach.(18:34) Advice for job seekers and those transitioning into TA.(20:05) TA professionals inspire creativity, perseverance, and growth.Resources Mentioned:Jenny Hoflerhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jennyhoflerlovestalent/Labcorp | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/labcorp/Labcorp | Websitehttps://www.labcorp.com/This episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.Sagemark HR can help you:✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:www.sagemarkhr.com✉ ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com#Talent #Recruiters #Recruiting #HRTech

Jun 12, 2025 • 24min
Creating a Tiered TA Model for Global Hiring Needs with Ryan Alexander of Flowserve
Navigating global hiring challenges takes more than process — it takes strategy, relationships and relentless curiosity. In this episode, host Ryan Dull is joined by Ryan Alexander, VP of Global Talent Acquisition at Flowserve. They discuss Ryan’s experiences at Flowserve, a global leader in flow control solutions with over 18,000 employees across 52 countries. Ryan also breaks down the company’s hiring model, explains the challenges of operating in diverse geographies and outlines his strategic approach to transforming TA delivery and aligning it with business needs. Key Takeaways:(02:42) Ryan started his career in retail, becoming the top salesperson in his company at 18 years old.(07:14) Flowserve builds critical pumps and valves for fluid systems.(10:06) Flowserve outsources 90% of hiring to a global RPO team.(13:32) Ryan outlines four TA pillars: delivery, search, operations and talent intelligence.(16:03) TA success is measured through KPIs, retention, diversity, and audits.(18:48) Strategic workforce planning is a top HR priority linked to TA.(21:40) TA success depends on treating everyone as a customer.Resources Mentioned:Ryan Alexanderhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanalexandersphr/Flowserve | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/flowserve/Flowserve | Websitehttps://www.flowserve.com/en/Workdayhttps://www.workday.com/SAP IBPhttps://www.sap.com/sea/products/scm/integrated-business-planning.htmlThis episode is brought to you by Sagemark HR.Sagemark HR can help you:✔ Improve your talent practices and make better, more informed people decisions.After 20+ years of experience leading Recruiting and Talent Acquisition across a wide variety of industries, I've seen enough hires (over 100,000 to date) to know that hiring decisions truly can make or break an organization.✔ Identify opportunities to not only improve your talent practices, but also delivering tangible business results.We understand every organization is different, and there’s no one-size-fits-all magic solution. So we listen first and identify the gaps and sticking points in your current process before ever recommending a solution.✔ Bridge the gap from “traditional” to modern recruiting, without the painful learning curve.We believe recruiting, talent, and HR technology is a deep well of untapped business potential, and our mission is to help you identify and implement those hiring tools in a way that works for you.If you’re interested in learning more, you can reach me at:www.sagemarkhr.com✉ ryan.dull@sagemarkhr.com#Talent #Recruiters #Recruiting #HRTech


