Value Investing with Legends

Todd Combs, an investment officer at Berkshire Hathaway and close acquaintance of Munger, shares personal anecdotes and insights into Munger's influence on value investing and rational thinking. Topics include Munger's approach to life and investing, behavioral economics insights, practical applications of his wisdom, and his lasting impact on business and investing.

Kim Lew, President and CEO of the Columbia Investment Management Company, shares insights on risk management, asset allocation, and aligning endowment goals with university values. She discusses the challenges of managing a larger endowment, the concept of future-proofing investment strategies, and the importance of intellectual curiosity in the investment industry. The podcast also explores the dynamics and implications of technology and AI, highlighting responsible technology use and risk management.

John Armitage, seasoned investment maestro and chief strategist behind Egerton Capital, shares his insights on navigating portfolio management, macroeconomic shifts, and the pitfalls of stock picking. He discusses passive investing, competitive dynamics in European aviation, the transformative impact of a growing talent pool, and the ethical crossroads of AI. Armitage also delves into Egerton Capital's focus on growth, governance, quality, and his literary influences on investment philosophy.

Nicolai Tangen, CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management, discusses his journey from art student to leading a prominent investment fund and the role of historical context in risk appetite. He also explores the implications of AI on future investment strategies and the value of contrarian thinking in a changing market.

John Rogers, successful investor and industry titan, discusses his formative experiences, his investment philosophy focused on patience and long-term thinking, and his roles on corporate boards where he emphasizes the importance of diversity and equal opportunities for minority businesses.

Sheldon Stone, a seasoned Chief Investment Officer, discusses balancing liquidity, the growing high-yield market, and the impact of intangible assets. Hosts Michael and Tano explore Sheldon's background, the trade-offs in investment strategies, and the role of sector analysis in market valuation.

Ray Dalio, iconic investor and author with a wealth of knowledge in the finance industry, discusses topics such as the evolution of wealth, the role of capital markets in wealth creation, risk-return trade-offs, and the challenges faced by countries like China. He also shares insights on deleveraging in today's economic climate and the rise of populism in the modern world.

Today’s conversation is a special one. I’m delighted to share my fireside chat with Markel Corporation’s Tom Gayner from our 26th Annual CSIMA Conference. With decades of industry experience, Tom joined us to share insights into how Markel has differentiated itself from others in the insurance industry and the investment approach and philosophies that facilitate its continued growth.   Thomas “Tom” Gayner is the Co-Chief Executive Officer of Markel Corporation. He oversees investing activities for the company, as well as the Markel Ventures’ diverse industrial and service businesses. Tom joined Markel in 1990 to form Markel Gayner Asset Management which provided equity investment counsel for Markel Corporation and outside clients.   In this episode, Tom and I discuss how he went from analyzing Markel to joining the team after its IPO, Markel’s three-engine business model, how Markel Ventures originated, why it’s essential to create an environment that’s supportive of the way you'd like to operate, and so much more! Key Topics:   Tom’s journey to joining Markel (1:28) Markel’s three-engine architecture of insurance, investments, and Markel  Ventures (5:00) How AMF Bakery Equipment became Markel Ventures' first investment (9:18) The four lenses for assessing equity investments (13:33) Markel’s nuanced approach to portfolio management (20:44) Learning to improve your investment decision-making process (24:14) Why Tom calls financial statements a donut truth (28:01) Translating the language of GAAP accounting to real economic meaning (29:48) Assessing a company’s debt levels (33:31) How interest rates massively impact human behavior (35:05) And much more! Mentioned in this Episode:   Markel Corporation Annual Reports Thanks for Listening!   Be sure to subscribe on Apple, Google, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And feel free to drop us a line at valueinvesting@gsb.columbia.edu.   Follow the Heilbrunn Center on social media on Instagram, LinkedIn, and more!

When evaluating a company, getting a clear picture of all the relevant factors can be challenging. That’s why today’s guest, Scott Hendrickson, heavily emphasizes management quality and companies where diligence can provide a high level of conviction.   As a Columbia Business School graduate and adjunct professor, Scott is both a practitioner and a teacher. He has been an integral part of the investing program for almost a decade.   Scott Hendrickson is a Partner and the Co-Founder of Permian Investment Partners, a $1.2 billion management-focused global long/short investment fund. Before co-founding Permian, Scott worked as an Investment Analyst at Brahman Capital. Prior to Brahman, Scott worked as an Associate at Industrial Growth Partners, a middle-market-focused private equity fund. Scott started his career as an Analyst in Merrill Lynch’s Investment Banking Program. Scott graduated from Emory University with a BBA in Finance in 2000 and Columbia Business School with an MBA in 2007. Scott serves on the Columbia Business School adjunct faculty, teaching Applied Value Investing since 2014.     In this episode, Scott, Tano, and I discuss Scott’s journey to a career in investing, why Permian has management as their core focus, the three main business quality metrics they employ, risk management for short interests, characteristics of transformational acquisitions, how teaching has expanded Scott’s perspective, and so much more! Key Topics:   How Scott’s interest in investing evolved from his love for music (1:57) Scott’s learnings from his time at Brahman Capital (5:35) Criteria Permian seeks in longs and shorts (7:01) Why Permian has management as a core focus (8:08) How the quality of Permian’s LPs has become an advantage (10:53) Permian’s approach to screening (12:49) The three main business quality metrics employed (15:38) Permian’s portfolio construction and power rank system (17:20) Breaking down the four short frameworks (22:01) Risk management for short interests (24:46) Factoring in the macro view (26:31) How Permian applies value-added research (30:00) What it means to be “diligence-able” and why that matters (33:38) Characteristics of transformational acquisitions (37:22) Differentiating between structural and fixable costs (39:41) What’s behind the long-term underperformance of European stock markets (42:35) How teaching has expanded Scott’s perspective (44:54) Scott’s recommendations for investors to improve the odds that they will be successful over time (46:26) What keeps Scott up at night and excited about the future (47:23) Scott’s book recommendations (50:16) And much more! Mentioned in this Episode:   William N. Thorndike’s Book | The Outsiders: Eight Unconventional CEOs and Their Radically Rational Blueprint for Success Jim Rogers’ Books Investment Biker: Around the World with Jim Rogers Adventure Capitalist: The Ultimate Road Trip Hernando De Soto’s Book | The Mystery of Capital: Why Capitalism Triumphs in the West and Fails Everywhere Else Joel Greenblatt’s Book | You Can Be a Stock Market Genius: Uncover the Secret Hiding Places of Stock Market Profits Seth A. Klarman’s Book | Margin of Safety: Risk-Averse Value Investing Strategies for the Thoughtful Investor Thanks for Listening!   Be sure to subscribe on Apple, Google, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And feel free to drop us a line at valueinvesting@gsb.columbia.edu.   Follow the Heilbrunn Center on social media on Instagram, LinkedIn, and more!  

With the constant evolution of the asset management industry, investors need to stay a step ahead to justify earning an active management fee. With over 40 years of experience in the industry, this is a lesson that today’s guest, Bill Nygren of Harris Associates, instills in the younger analysts he mentors.   Bill is a true legend of value investing and an investor you can turn to whenever the market is uncertain. He radiates fundamental ideas and has an expansive perspective on the comings and goings of the market and the economy at large.    Bill is the Chief Investment Officer for US equities at Harris Associates, which he joined in 1983, and a vice president of the Oakmark Funds. He has been a manager of the Oakmark Select Fund since 1996, Oakmark Fund since 2000, and the Oakmark Global Select Fund since 2006. Bill served as the firm’s director of research from 1990 to 1998. He has received many accolades during his investment career, including being named Morningstar’s Domestic Stock Manager of the Year for 2001, and he holds an M.S. in Finance from the University of Wisconsin’s Applied Security Analysis Program (1981) and a B.S. in accounting from the University of Minnesota (1980).   In this episode, Bill, Michael, and I discuss why Bill was drawn to value investing, why generalist analysts transition more easily to portfolio manager than specialists, his approach to idea generation and portfolio construction, pivoting in times of crisis and great distress, recession insights from over 40 years of experience, and so much more! Key Topics:   Welcome Bill to the show (1:09) Bill’s lifelong fascination with the line between gambling and investing (2:17) Why Bill was drawn to value investing (4:51) The importance of working at a firm that shares your investment philosophy (6:26) Why generalist analysts transition more easily to portfolio manager than industry specialists (9:36) Dealing with industry intricacies as a generalist analyst (14:05) Harris Associates’ approach to idea generation (15:55) What it’s like to be an analyst at Harris Associates (18:31) Why Harris uses multiple techniques to define value (24:25) Looking at management’s attitude towards capital redeployment (26:33) Harris’ maintenance process and error recognition methods (30:08) Bill’s thoughts on the news of Microsoft’s massive investment into OpenAI(32:53) Pivoting in times of crisis and great distress (36:38) Capital One as a case study of a stock that represents a good investment opportunity today (41:25) Recession insights from over 40 years of industry experience (44:02) Thinking about the effect of the current interest rate environment (48:35) Criteria for portfolio construction and position sizing (49:52) The evolving opportunity set (53:21) Identifying anomalies in GAAP accounting (55:44) The things that keep Bill up at night and excited about the future (59:31) Bill’s book recommendations (1:02:04) And much more! Mentioned in this Episode:   Harris Associates Oakmark Funds Michael Dell’s Book | Play Nice But Win: A CEO's Journey from Founder to Leader John Mack’s Book | Up Close and All In: Life Lessons from a Wall Street Warrior Joe Maddon & Tom Verducci’s Book | The Book of Joe: Trying Not to Suck at Baseball and Life   Thanks for Listening!   Be sure to subscribe on Apple, Google, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And feel free to drop us a line at valueinvesting@gsb.columbia.edu.   Follow the Heilbrunn Center on social media on Instagram, LinkedIn, and more!