

Behind the Numbers: an EMARKETER Podcast
EMARKETER
EMARKETER’s podcast, Behind the Numbers, helps marketers, retailers, and advertisers understand the rapidly changing landscape of digital media. EMARKETER analysts and industry experts come together to analyze a wide variety of critical topics, from the transformative influence of AI to the dynamic world of social media, and the evolving landscape of consumer shopping habits. Stay informed and stay ahead with insights and analysis that matter. Tune in to new episodes published Monday through Friday wherever you find podcasts.
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May 19, 2025 • 29min
TikTok’s Fate, LinkedIn’s Content Pivot, and Why Reddit is a Sleeping Giant | Behind the Numbers
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss the most likely outcome for the TikTok saga, if LinkedIn is risking its professional identity by pivoting towards being a content platform, Pinterest’s latest initiative to become the shopping destination, and why Reddit is somewhat of a sleeping giant. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host Marcus Johnson, Vice President and Principal Analyst Jasmine Enberg, and Senior Analyst Minda Smiley. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
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For a transcript of this episode click here: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-tiktok-s-fate-linkedin-s-content-pivot-why-reddit-sleeping-giant-behind-numbers
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May 17, 2025 • 46min
Commerce Media Trends and Opportunities | Behind the Numbers: Special Edition
Lauren Griewski, Head of Sales and Partnerships for Chase Media Solutions, shares insights on how commerce media is transforming the advertising landscape. She discusses the impact of economic challenges on retail media and the innovative strategies from giants like Amazon and DoorDash. The conversation covers the role of generative AI in content creation and emphasizes the importance of personalized marketing in building brand loyalty. Plus, they explore how consumer insights can inform tailored marketing strategies for various life stages.

May 16, 2025 • 30min
Navigating Tariffs: How Advertisers Are Weathering the Shifting Storm | Behind the Numbers
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss what we expect from consumer spending in Q2, the three scenarios we expect for total media (and digital) ad spending, and how marketers are reacting to everything. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host Marcus Johnson, Principal Forecasting Writer Ethan Cramer-Flood, and Senior Forecasting Analyst Zach Goldner. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
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For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-btn-navigating-tariffs-how-advertisers-weathering-shifting-storm
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May 14, 2025 • 18min
Can GenAI actually change how people shop? | Reimagining Retail
In this engaging discussion, Carina Perkins, a Senior Analyst at EMARKETER specializing in retail, explores how generative AI is transforming the shopping experience. She highlights its role across the shopper journey, from advertising to customer service, and the tension between consumer control and AI reliance. Carina delves into the importance of trust in AI recommendations, the limitations of AI with emotionally-driven purchases, and emphasizes the need for retailers to focus on seamless shopping experiences that resonate with consumers.

May 13, 2025 • 19min
The Consumer Debt Elephant in the Room | The Banking & Payments Show
In today’s episode, we talk about how much debt consumers have, which buckets it lives in, and the likelihood of a ‘debt jubilee’. Join the discussion with host and Head of Business Development Rob Rubin, Senior Analyst Grace Broadbent and Senior Director of Forecasting Oscar Orozco.
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For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-banking-payments-show-consumer-debt-elephant-room
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Rokt helps marketers reach high-intent customers in the Transaction Moment™—when they’re actively completing a purchase online. Powered by AI and first-party data, Rokt Ads connects your brand with over 400 million global shoppers and delivers outcomes you can count on. Learn more at rokt.com/emarketer to get started today.

May 12, 2025 • 27min
Meta vs. the World: Weathering Tariffs, AI Wars, and a Potential Plan to Upend the Entire Ad Ecosystem | Behind the Numbers
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss Meta’s capacity to weather the tariff climate, how Meta plans to redefine advertising, and what happens if it is forced to sell Instagram and WhatsApp. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host Marcus Johnson, Vice President and Principal Analyst Jasmine Enberg, and Senior Analyst Minda Smiley. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
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For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-btn-meta-vs-world-weathering-tariffs-ai-wars-potential-plan-upend-entire-ad-ecosystem
© 2025 EMARKETER
Rokt helps marketers reach high-intent customers in the Transaction Moment™—when they’re actively completing a purchase online. Powered by AI and first-party data, Rokt Ads connects your brand with over 400 million global shoppers and delivers outcomes you can count on. Learn more at rokt.com/emarketer to get started today.

May 9, 2025 • 29min
The Art of the Perfect Checkout Offer with Rokt | Behind the Numbers
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss why the new funnel begins at checkout, what kinds of offers customers are most receptive to when getting ready to click the buy button, and how to avoid showing someone something they already have. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host Marcus Johnson, Vice President of Content Suzy Davidkhanian, Senior Director of Briefings Jeremy Goldman, and Senior Vice President of Solutions and Operations at Rokt Jon Humphrey. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
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For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-btn-art-of-perfect-checkout-offer-with-rokt
© 2025 EMARKETER
Rokt helps marketers reach high-intent customers in the Transaction Moment™—when they’re actively completing a purchase online. Powered by AI and first-party data, Rokt Ads connects your brand with over 400 million global shoppers and delivers outcomes you can count on. Learn more at rokt.com/emarketer
to get started today.

May 7, 2025 • 24min
Price Wars: Attack of the Private Labels | Reimagining Retail
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss how tariffs will impact private labels, if private label still a synonym for “affordable”, and some unofficial awards for the 5 most interesting private label players. Listen to the conversation with our Senior Analyst Sara Lebow as she hosts Principal Analyst Sky Canaves and Analyst Arielle Feger.
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For a transcript of this episode click here: podcast-price-wars-attack-of-private-labels-reimagining-retailhttps://www.emarketer.com/content/

May 5, 2025 • 26min
Google is Keeping Cookies, Maybe Selling Chrome, and Scaling AI Overviews | Behind the Numbers
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss why Google is now keeping third-party cookies, who’s most likely to buy Chrome if they have to sell it, and the impact of AI Overviews so far. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host Marcus Johnson, Senior Director of Briefings Jeremy Goldman, and Principal Analyst Yory Wurmser. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
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For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-btn-google-keeping-cookies-maybe-selling-chrome-scaling-ai-overviews
© 2025 EMARKETER
Rokt helps marketers reach high-intent customers in the Transaction Moment™—when they’re actively completing a purchase online. Powered by AI and first-party data, Rokt Ads connects your brand with over 400 million global shoppers and delivers outcomes you can count on. Learn more at rokt.com/emarketer to get started today.

May 2, 2025 • 26min
How Recession-Proof is Netflix? | Behind the Numbers
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss how ready Netflix is for a potential recession, if video podcasts and content creators fit nicely into its offering, and whether AI can help improve search for the streaming giant. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host Marcus Johnson, Senior Analyst Ross Benes, and Vice President of Content Paul Verna. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
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For a transcript of this episode click here: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-how-recession-proof-netflix-behind-numbers


