
Enneagram in Real Life
Enneagram In Real Life (fka Ask an Enneagram Coach), is a podcast where we go beyond Enneagram theory and dive into practical understanding and fresh insight. Each episode will feature a guest of a different type to share the ins and outs of living life as their type and how they apply the Enneagram IRL. The Enneagram IRL podcast will engage listeners wherever they are in their self-discovery process so that they can learn, grow, and remember that even though we all love the Enneagram, we’re more than just a number.Hosted by Steph Barron Hall, Accredited Enneagram Practitioner, coach, consultant, author, and creator of @ninetypesco on Instagram. Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our theme song! You can also find their work on Spotify. https://doctordreamchip.com/
Latest episodes

Dec 27, 2022 • 1h
Liberating Financial Mindsets as an Enneagram 2 with Tori Dunlap
On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Tori Dunlap, an internationally-recognized money and career expert, and podcast host. After saving $100,000 at age 25, Tori quit her corporate job in marketing and founded Her First $100K to fight financial inequality by giving women actionable resources to better their money. She has helped over three million women negotiate salary, pay off debt, build savings, and invest. A Forbes 30 Under 30 honoree, Tori now travels the world writing and speaking about personal finance, online businesses, and confidence for women.We discuss Tori’s journey with her business, the Enneagram, and everything in between. Tori also gives us a little sneak peek into her new book, Financial Feminist.Click here to order Tori’s book, Financial Feminist! Follow Her First 100k on Instagram: @herfirst100k Or connect with Tori & Her First 100k online: http://herfirst100k.com/Here are the key takeaways:What's Tori's type & journey with the Enneagram?How does Tori use the Enneagram in her personal & professional life?Discussing playing big and financial inequalityOur first financial memory & dissecting financial trauma3 practical financial steps you can begin right nowResources mentioned in this episode:Financial Feminist Podcast with Tori DunlapFinancial Feminist: Overcome the Patriarchy's Bullsh*t to Master Your Money and Build a Life You Love by Tori DunlapBig Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear By Elizabeth Gilbert ·Playing Big: Find Your Voice, Your Mission, Your Message by Tara MohrWe Should All Be Millionaires by Rachel RodgersYou Are a Badass at Making Money: Master the Mindset of Wealth by Jen SinceroWant to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=enLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guideWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.

Dec 6, 2022 • 52min
The Traveling Enneagram with Nikki Meyers
HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDES ARE HERE! https://ninetypes.co/giftguidesOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we are sharing a fun conversation I had with Nikki Meyers as I joined her Live Talk Radio Show, The Traveling Enneagram. Nikki Meyers is a certified Enneagram Practitioner with a serious passion for helping people be the very best version of themselves each and every day by cultivating self-awareness and a space for growth. She works one-on-one with individuals, with couples, and professionally with teams and leaders. She's spent almost 20 years working in leadership development, incorporating the teachings of the Enneagram and Emotional Intelligence to create high-performing teams and leaders. Nikki owns her own practice, Pura Vida Coaching & Development, with the name coming from the Costa Rican term meaning "pure life," a saying she deeply believes in and lives by. We discuss what the Enneagram is, what it is not, and some of the best ways to use this system. We also answer a few questions from listeners, as this show was recorded live! Click here to listen to this show and more of The Traveling Enneagram. You can find Nikki’s Talk Radio Show on any podcast app!Follow Nikki on Instagram: @nikkipuravidacdOr connect with her online: https://www.puravidacd.com/Here are the key takeaways:A breakdown of the Enneagram System — and what it’s notHow does the Enneagram differ from other systems?Using the Enneagram as a tool for curiositySteph and Nikki discuss personal “Aha” moments as a Type 3 and Type 7.Different approaches to the Enneagram: Levels of HealthThe importance of subtypesHow to narrow down on your Enneagram typeAdvice for a type Six jumping into a new professional roleWant to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=enLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guideWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.

Nov 29, 2022 • 1h 3min
Pain as a Spiritual Teacher as an Enneagram 7 with Samantha Mackay
On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Samantha Mackay, an Enneagram coach, trainer, and educator who specializes in using the Enneagram to amplify personal growth and healing. Samantha was a litigation lawyer until chronic stress and burnout lead her to evaluate what she really wanted in her life and to find the source of her pain. As a Self-Preservation Seven, she was good at ignoring her pain until her body made it clear that was no longer an option. She found the path to recovering from chronic stress and managing an autoimmune condition was to heal not just her physical body, but also her emotional, intellectual, and spiritual bodies. Her recovery journey started 15 years ago and she now supports others on their journey.We discuss how Samantha found the Enneagram, her core type, and subtype, and how it now all plays a role in her life of personal healing, as well as coaching others to do the same. Such a fascinating episode that helps give great insight into the experience of a Self-Pres Seven.Follow Samantha on Instagram: @individuo_coachingOr connect with her online: www.individuo.co.nzHere are the key takeaways:Samantha’s Self-Pres Seven experienceUsing the Enneagram in healing workThe importance of recognizing the need for deep inner work Giving ourselves permission to heal, what this looks like, and being patient through the processConcision vs. SpeedHow can you connect and work with Samantha?Resources mentioned in this episode:iEQ9 TestGiving Yourself Permission to Heal CourseOutsmarting Procrastination CourseClearing Overlooked Grief CourseThe Flight from Intimacy: Healing Your Relationship of Counter-Dependency - The Other Side of Co-Dependency by Barry K Weinhold and Janae B. WeinholdWant to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=enLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guideWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.

Nov 15, 2022 • 1h
Scaling Back from Overworking and Finding Purpose as an Enneagram 9 with Stephanie Woodward
On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Stephanie Woodward, a whole-life and leadership coach, facilitator, and author of The Big Scale Back: Success and balance by your own design (which was just released this week). She is the founder of Agency to Change, a boutique firm specializing in custom coaching programs to help individuals and teams redefine their relationship with work. We discuss Stephanie’s journey of reevaluating her approach to work and productivity as a One-to-One Nine. She offers so much insight into team dynamics, Type Nine strengths & shadows, burnout, & more!Grab a copy of The Big Scale Back right here!Follow Stephanie on LinkedIn & Instagram: @agencytochangeOr connect with her online: https://stephaniewoodward.comhttps://www.agencytochange.comHere are the key takeaways:Chronic workaholism as part of the Type Nine defense mechanism, narcotizationDiscovering one’s wants and “ruffling feathers” as a Type NineThe Big Scale Back & Stephanie’s experience with hyper-productivity and unsustainable hoursUnderlying issues behind difficult workplace dynamicsType Nine strength of being the pace setter & Stephanie’s encouragement to fellow Type NinesSigns of burnout and unfulfillmentHow can you connect with Stephanie and her work?✨A special resource from Stephanie Woodward ONLY for our listeners:https://stephaniewoodward.com/enneagram-in-real-life/Want to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=enLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guideWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.

Nov 8, 2022 • 1h 8min
Sobriety, Healing, & Holistic Mental Health as an Enneagram 3 with Amanda E. White
Welcome back to Enneagram IRL, the weekly podcast where we go beyond Enneagram theory and dive into practical understanding, new clarity, and fresh insight. We’re talking about how each type is in REAL LIFE so you can remember – you’re more than just a number.We meet with Amanda E. White, a licensed therapist and the creator of the popular instagram account @therapyforwomen. She is the author of the book “Not Drinking Tonight: A Guide to Creating A Sober Life You Love," and the workbook version which will be coming out in January 2023. She is the founder and owner of the group therapy practice, Therapy for Women Center, based in Philadelphia serving clients across the country. She has been featured in notable publications such as Forbes, Washington Post, Shape, Self and more.We discuss performance and perfectionism, as well as explore the topic of Alcohol & more. This episode is great for those who are curious if their relationship with alcohol is serving them in their daily lives. What a great conversation with my fellow Enneagram Three!Buy Amanda’s book, Not Drinking Tonight & Pre-order the Not Drinking Tonight WorkbookFollow Amanda on Instagram & Tik Tok: @therapyforwomen Or connect with her online: www.amandaewhite.com www.therapyforwomencenter.comHere are the key takeaways:Amanda’s journey of finding her Enneagram type as a ThreeDiscussing how Amanda uses the Enneagram with her therapy clientsThe relationship between alcohol and anxiety and the science behind itThe importance of forming a conversation around Alcohol and overall health Shame & Self-compassionAmanda talks about trauma and how individuals experience itHow can you connect and work with AmandaResources mentioned in this episode:Naked Mind Podcast with Annie GraceThe Naked Mind book by Annie GraceSober Curious Podcast with Ruby WarringtonAndrew Huberman on AlcoholWant to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=enLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.

Nov 1, 2022 • 1h 7min
MBTI & the Enneagram with Leslie McDaniel
Welcome back to Enneagram IRL, the weekly podcast where we go beyond Enneagram theory and dive into practical understanding, new clarity, and fresh insight. We’re talking about how each type is in REAL LIFE so you can remember – you’re more than just a number.On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Leslie McDaniel, a coach, personality consultant, and podcast host for creative and ambitious problem solvers who want to rediscover who they are and what matters most through the lens of personality type so they can live each day with purpose and intention. She can help you take your Myers-Briggs® or Enneagram personality type from a casual curiosity to a life-changing path for growth.We discuss Myers-Briggs® Typology while touching on some basic and advanced theory. Leslie answers MBTI questions from the Nine Types Co. community and shares her passion for working with individuals using this personality system. Follow Leslie on Instagram: @heyhihellopersonalityListen to Leslie’s Podcast: The Hello Personality PodcastOr connect with her online: https://hellopersonality.com/Here are the key takeaways:Trends and patterns between MBTI Types & Enneagram TypesIntro to the cognitive functions and using MBTI for growthBreaking down the specific type of INFJ What are practical differences between Sensing and Intuition? ISTJ vs. ISFJCan your type change throughout your life?How can you connect with Leslie?Resources mentioned in this episode:Free MBTI & Enneagram Typing Guide by Leslie McDanielPersonality Hacker: Harness the Power of Your Personality Type to Transform Your Work, Relationships, and Life by Antonia Dodge and Joel Mark WittFour Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver BurkemanAtlas of the Heart: Mapping Meaningful Connection and the Language of Human Experience by Brené BrownWant to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=enLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guideWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.

Oct 25, 2022 • 1h 2min
Becoming Your Most Confident Self as an Enneagram 5 with Kelli Rae Thompson
Welcome back to Enneagram IRL, the weekly podcast where we go beyond Enneagram theoryand dive into practical understanding, new clarity, and fresh insight. We’re talking about howeach type is in REAL LIFE so you can remember – you’re more than just a number.On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Kelli Thompson, a women’s leadership coach and speaker who helps women advance to the rooms where decisions are made. She has coached and trained hundreds of women to trust themselves, lead with more confidence, and create a career they love. She is the founder of the Clarity & Confidence Women's Leadership Program, and a Stevie Award winner for Women in Business—Coach of the Year. She is the author of Closing The Confidence Gap: Boost Your Peace, Your Potential & Your Paycheck, releasing November 1, 2022. Click here to Pre-order Kelli’s bookWe discuss Kelli’s journey from gaining confidence in the corporate world to now leading the way for others to do the same. We dive into Kelli’s experience as a social Five and how she applies the Enneagram in her daily life.Follow Kelli on Instagram: @kelliraethompsonOr connect with her online: https://www.kelliraethompson.com/Linkedin: in/kelliraethompsonHere are the key takeaways:Kelli’s AHA moment when she realized she was a type FiveIdentifying unconscious type five patterns and growing through themTapping into feelings and emotions as a FiveWhat brought Kelli to write about the confidence gapAccessing the Body center as type FiveDiscussing the concept of limiting beliefsBreaking down Imposter SyndromeHow can you connect and work with KelliResources mentioned in this episode:Learn more by joining the Enneagram in Real Life CourseIntegrative 9 Enneagram SolutionsBittersweet: How Sorrow and Longing Make Us Whole by Susan CainWe Can Do Hard Things Podcast with Glennon DoyleStrengths FinderMy Life in Full: Work, Family, and Our Future by Indra NooyiThe Knowing-Doing Gap: How Smart Companies Turn Knowledge into Action by Jeffrey Pfeffer and Robert I. SuttonBonus: Download two free resources from Kelli Rae ThompsonWant to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=enLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here:hWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.

Oct 18, 2022 • 52min
Breakups, Healing, & Grief as an Enneagram 2 with Gina Gomez
Welcome back to Enneagram IRL, the weekly podcast where we go beyond Enneagram theory and dive into practical understanding, new clarity, and fresh insight. We’re talking about how each type is in REAL LIFE so you can remember – you’re more than just a number.On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Gina Gomez, a Conscious Breakup & Relationship coach, and author of the book, The Enneagram & You. She specializes in mentoring women going through breakups or divorce, and she helps them to feel hopeful again, regain their sense of identity, find new and healthy love, and feel empowered and whole. We discuss Gina’s passion of working with people as they heal and grieve a breakup, and dissect what that really means. Gina shares her experience as a coach while also giving insight into her life as a self-preservation Two.Sign up for Gina’s 9-week group coaching program, The Haven — Starts October 18th, 2022Follow Gina on Instagram: @ginagomez.coOr connect with her online: https://ginagomez.co/Here are the key takeaways:How did Gina begin teaching about intentional relationships and offering breakup support?How does Gina integrate the Enneagram into her work?Discussing grieving in the context of a breakupWorking with different Enneagram types and how certain types respond to this coachingGina’s perspective on how to set healthy boundaries How can you connect with Gina and her work?Resources mentioned in this episode:The Enneagram & You by Gina Gomez1:1 Coaching with GinaThe Haven, Group Coaching ProgramThe Hidden Life of Trees: What They Feel, How They Communicate―Discoveries from A Secret World by Peter WohllebenWant to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=enLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to keep learning? Join my Enneagram in Real Life course to start applying all this Enneagram knowledge and start GROWING! Check it out here: https://www.enneagramirl.comWant to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here:https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guide Want to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.

Oct 10, 2022 • 1h 5min
Expanding Awareness as an Enneagram 4 with Grizel Caminas
Welcome back to Enneagram IRL, the weekly podcast where we go beyond Enneagram theory and dive into practical understanding, new clarity, and fresh insight. We’re talking about how each type is in REAL LIFE so you can remember – you’re more than just a number. This week’s episode of Enneagram IRL we meet with Grizel Caminas, an outdoor enthusiast and therapist who uses her platform to inspire folks to connect with nature to support their mental health. After backpacking over 5000 miles on the Pacific Crest Trail, Appalachian Trail, and part of the Continental Divide Trail, Grizel has been personally impacted by the healing that comes with Mother Nature and believes everyone deserves to experience that form of healing. Grizel has been featured on a variety of platforms in both the mental health and outdoor space, including Outside Magazine, REI Co-op Journal, Blue Ridge Magazine, She Explores, Backcountry, American Foundation of Suicide Prevention, Talkspace, and more.In this episode, we break down aspects of an Enneagram type Four as it applies to Grizel’s experience of being a therapist, influencer, and lover of the outdoors. Follow Grizel on Instagram & Tik Tok: @grizelcaminasOr find her online at https://www.grizelcaminas.com/Here are our key takeaways: What led Grizel to become a therapist who also works with the EnneagramGrizel’s perspective on the type Four passion of EnvyThe impact of social media — encountering envy, communicating pain and trauma, and striving for authenticity Grizel’s experience with clients — creating connection, holding space for depth, & honoring their storiesWays to connect with Grizel and her workResources mentioned in this episode:The Wisdom of the Enneagram by Don Richard RisoListen to Underneath It All PodcastPatreon: Underneath It All PodcastUnderneath It All Podcast Episode with Guest Steph Barron HallWant to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=enLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to keep learning? Join my Enneagram in Real Life course to start applying all this Enneagram knowledge and start GROWING! Check it out here: https://www.enneagramirl.comWant to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here:https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guide Want to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.

Oct 4, 2022 • 4min
Programming Note
We've got some incredible episodes coming up! But this week, we're taking a little fall break.If you have any favorite business owners, podcasters, or creators you'd love to hear on the show, shoot me a DM at @ninetypesco, or send them in here: https://ninetypes.co/contactWe'll be back next week with a brand new episode. Happy October!Want to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.