

Into Africa
CSIS | Center for Strategic and International Studies
Fearless music activists. Savvy tech entrepreneurs. Social disrupters. Into Africa shatters the narratives that dominate U.S. perceptions of Africa. Host Mvemba Phezo Dizolele, Africa program director and senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington D.C., sits down with policymakers, journalists, academics and other trailblazers in African affairs to shine a spotlight on the faces spearheading cultural, political, and economic change on the continent.
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Sep 11, 2025 • 60min
Back to basics: Africa’s bid for two permanent UNSC seats (with Amb. Martin Kimani)
Since this episode aired last year, we’re still dreaming of a just and representative global order. Catherine Nzuki was joined by Ambassador Martin Kimani, PhD, the Executive Director of New York University’s Center on International Cooperation. He was previously the Permanent Representative of Kenya to the United Nations (UN).
In this episode, we take a deep dive into Africa’s bid for two permanent seats on the UN Security Council (UNSC) and the long road to get there. We discuss how long Africa has been pushing for these seats (3:40); the procedure to create the two permanent seats (7:00); why the process of selecting which African state will occupy those seats could cause infighting (15:20); and two scenarios for how these seats could be distributed (19:40).
We zoom out to discuss the deficit of visionary contemporary leaders (30:18); the types of reforms that the African Union needs (34:42); Africa’s demographic dividend (36:00); Africa in the G20 (42:30); and finally, reordering global geography in line with Africa’s own interests (45:00).

Aug 28, 2025 • 32min
Back to basics: Decoding demographics with Dr. Jennifer D. Sciubba
Catherine's taking a break this week. In the meantime, we want to reshare one of our essential episodes on demographics. As you all know, by 2050, one in four people will be African. How do demographers reach this conclusion? And how does Africa's population growth intersect with population declines in the Global North?
To answer these questions, Catherine was joined by Dr. Jennifer D. Sciubba, President and CEO of the Population Reference Bureau and one of the foremost experts in the field of political demography.
Dr. Sciubba breaks down how demographers project future populations and the drivers of population growth. They discuss the limited window to take advantage of Africa’s demographic dividend, the population decline debate in the West, and why overpopulation is a contentious term. They also discuss how politics, cultural norms, women’s empowerment, and the autonomy to not have children factor into population growth.
Book recommendation: States and Nature (The Politics of Climate Change) by Joshua W. Busby.

Aug 14, 2025 • 32min
What is sustaining Kenya’s “Gen-Z” protests?
Youth in Kenya have three demands: justice, accountability, and better governance. Over the past two years, “Gen Z” and government critics nationwide have taken to the streets in their thousands to demonstrate their frustrations and anger with the government. In this episode, Chemutai Ruto, a recent graduate of Political Science and Africana Studies, joins Khasai Makhulo, CSIS Africa Program Research Assistant, for a conversation on the ongoing political movements in Kenya. Speaking as two diaspora Kenyan “Gen Z” voices, they explore the pivotal role of women in current movements, how joy fuels resistance, and the ways social media is powering the longevity of the protest.

Jul 31, 2025 • 24min
Conflict, climate, and the internal displacement of 3.7 million Nigerians
Arjun Jain, the UN Refugee Agency’s Representative in Nigeria, joins Catherine Nzuki to discuss the drivers of internal displacement in Nigeria and the daily realities facing displaced communities. They explore how religion and geography shape public perception of the crisis, the capacity of federal and state governments to respond, and the impact of shrinking humanitarian budgets. The conversation also looks at how displacement worsens food insecurity and how UNHCR is supporting innovative agricultural solutions to help internally displaced people access farming land and rebuild their lives.

Jul 17, 2025 • 24min
Chad took in over a million Sudanese refugees. It can't shoulder this crisis alone.
Chad now hosts 1.8 million displaced people, including 1.2 million Sudanese fleeing one of the world’s deadliest conflicts. With 42 percent of its population living below the poverty line, Chad is struggling to provide basic services like food, water, and healthcare for both locals and refugees. In this episode, Abdouraouf Gnon-Konde, Director of UNHCR’s Regional Bureau for West and Central Africa, explains how the crisis is unfolding at the Chad–Sudan border, why Chad continues to welcome refugees despite limited resources, and how this mass displacement is reshaping the lives of young people in the region.

Jul 3, 2025 • 41min
There’s more African content on streaming. Who’s it for?
African content is booming on global streaming platforms. But as the industry shifts to appeal to Afropolitan elites and international audiences, who gets left behind? In this episode, Catherine Nzuki is joined by Dr. Wunpini Fatimata Mohammed, assistant professor in the Department of Communication at Cornell University and the author of Afropolitanizing the local: how cultural imperialism is rewriting the narratives of African entertainment industries. They discuss the rise of New Nollywood, the politics of representation, and what’s lost when African stories are tailored for a global audience. Her forthcoming book, Media, Culture, and Decolonization: Re-righting the Subaltern Histories of Ghana, is available now for preorder from Rutgers University Press.

Jun 26, 2025 • 39min
Bridging Africa’s Health Financing Crisis
Africa is undergoing a health funding crisis due to overreliance on external aid and a lack of internal investment from African governments. The healthcare sector is 95 percent dependent on external aid for crucial commodities: vaccines, medication, and diagnostic equipment. Africa saw a 41 percent rise in public health emergencies in 2024, highlighting the vulnerability of the health infrastructure. In response to these challenges, the Africa Center for Disease Control (CDC) released a concept paper titled: Africa’s Health Financing in a New Era. In this concept paper, the Africa CDC introduces innovative financing measures to bridge the funding gap.
Mvemba is joined by Dr. Jean Kaseya, Director-General of the Africa CDC, to discuss the importance of good governance, private sector investment, and strategic planning in strengthening Africa’s domestic resource mobilization.

Jun 12, 2025 • 28min
The development sector has changed irrevocably. What comes next?
Catherine Nzuki is joined by Blair Glencorse and Cheri-Leigh Erasmus, co-CEOs of Accountability Lab, to unpack the latest findings from the Global Aid Freeze Tracker. Together, they reflect on the current state of the development sector and explore where the development sector goes from here.

Jun 5, 2025 • 30min
Peter Obi on Leadership with Integrity
Peter Obi, the former governor of Anambra State and 2023 Nigerian presidential candidate, discusses the vital role of character in leadership. He argues that integrity, competence, and compassion are essential for restoring public trust in governance. Obi emphasizes the need for political reforms to support Nigeria's youth and combat high unemployment through entrepreneurship. He advocates for investing in education and health to build a sustainable future and discusses the lasting effects of colonialism on Africa’s leadership dynamics.

May 29, 2025 • 26min
Cameron Hudson on the internationalization of the Sudan war
Catherine Nzuki is joined by Cameron Hudson, Senior Fellow with the CSIS Africa Program. He unpacks the immediate causes of the war, the growing number of regional actors involved in the war, how the entry of foreign actors is changing the dynamics of the conflict, and the unique role the U.S. can play in mediating a peace process.
Cameron Hudson's testimony to the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Africa can be found here.