

Into Africa
CSIS | Center for Strategic and International Studies
Fearless music activists. Savvy tech entrepreneurs. Social disrupters. Into Africa shatters narratives that dominate U.S. perceptions of Africa. With the world’s youngest population, the decisions made across Africa today—good or bad—will shape the world’s future. Featuring in-depth interviews, the CSIS Africa Program sits down with policymakers, journalists, academics, and other trailblazers in African affairs to shine a spotlight on the people and stories shaping cultural, political, and economic trends across the continent today and for decades to come.
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Jun 5, 2025 • 30min
Peter Obi on Leadership with Integrity
Peter Obi, the former governor of Anambra State and 2023 Nigerian presidential candidate, discusses the vital role of character in leadership. He argues that integrity, competence, and compassion are essential for restoring public trust in governance. Obi emphasizes the need for political reforms to support Nigeria's youth and combat high unemployment through entrepreneurship. He advocates for investing in education and health to build a sustainable future and discusses the lasting effects of colonialism on Africa’s leadership dynamics.

May 29, 2025 • 26min
Cameron Hudson on the internationalization of the Sudan war
Catherine Nzuki is joined by Cameron Hudson, Senior Fellow with the CSIS Africa Program. He unpacks the immediate causes of the war, the growing number of regional actors involved in the war, how the entry of foreign actors is changing the dynamics of the conflict, and the unique role the U.S. can play in mediating a peace process.
Cameron Hudson's testimony to the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Africa can be found here.

May 22, 2025 • 42min
Solving Africa’s Housing Deficit
From rapid urbanization to persistent housing shortages, Africa’s cities are facing immense challenges—and emerging opportunities, including innovative mortgage models, government-backed projects, and rising investor interest in sustainable development. In this episode, Mvemba is joined by Thierno-Habib Hann, CEO of Shelter Afrique Development Bank, to explore how innovative finance, strategic partnerships, and public-private collaboration are reshaping the continent’s urban future. Together, they examine the scale of Africa’s housing deficit, the barriers to affordability, and the emerging solutions driving sustainable urban development across the continent.

May 15, 2025 • 52min
Understanding the case for the Africa Credit Rating Agency
Dr. Daniel Cash, an Associate Professor in Law at Aston University and UN fellow, dives into the biases of major credit rating agencies against Africa. He explains the urgent need for the Africa Credit Rating Agency (AfCRA) and its potential to reshape perceptions of African economies. The discussion highlights how credit ratings impact young people's futures, the limitations of GDP measurements, and the importance of a unique ratings perspective that reflects Africa's realities. Cash argues for institutional support to enhance Africa's financial standing globally.

May 13, 2025 • 2min
The Afropolitan is now the Youth Bloom podcast!
The podcast unveils its exciting rebranding, focusing on Africa's vibrant youth and their critical role in shaping the future. Discussions highlight the urgent challenges faced by young people today and the necessity of new initiatives. The host, Catherine Nzuki, brings engaging insights to the forefront, emphasizing the projected demographic shift by 2050. Listeners can look forward to enlightening conversations that tackle contemporary issues and explore innovative solutions for the continent.

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May 8, 2025 • 41min
The Congo, the Cold War, and Capitol Hill
Steve Weissman, a seasoned foreign policy and campaign finance analyst, shares his riveting experiences as a professor in the Congo and later a congressional aide. He delves into how Cold War dynamics shaped U.S. relations with Africa and critiques the longstanding support for authoritarian regimes. Weissman discusses the challenges of advocating for human rights amid political turmoil, reflecting on the consequences of U.S. indifference and its historically inconsistent policies. His personal insights illuminate the tangled web of education, politics, and diplomacy in the region.

May 1, 2025 • 34min
Coffee Chat with Catherine: Unofficial Tips for Internships
Catherine and Darrel dive into the world of internships in international policy. They share invaluable tips on crafting tailored resumes, acing interviews, and effective networking. Highlights include engaging with the African diaspora and building research skills through collaboration. Catherine’s personal journey and Darrel's reflections on his spring internship offer practical insights for aspiring interns. Whether you’re just starting out or looking to enhance your experience, this conversation is packed with actionable advice!

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Apr 24, 2025 • 40min
Navigating Africa’s Environmental Dilemma
Tosi Mpanu-Mpanu, an economist and climate change specialist with 20 years of experience, dives into Africa's critical climate challenges. He highlights the continent’s low greenhouse gas contributions yet severe environmental vulnerabilities. The discussion covers Africa’s climate diplomacy, mutual cooperation among nations, and the implications of carbon credit agreements. Tosi also examines the balance between mineral exploitation and rainforest conservation in the Democratic Republic of Congo, underscoring the need for equitable solutions in global climate negotiations.

Apr 17, 2025 • 37min
Best Of: The boomers in Mali getting their news from TikTok
The Afropolitan will be taking a brief hiatus to re-envision its next steps. Stay tuned for an exciting new chapter!In the meantime, we're sharing our very first episode from October, which focused on how older people in Mali are consuming news on TikTok, and why this symbolizes the larger trends sweeping through the Sahel. In this episode, Catherine Nzuki is joined by Doussouba Konaté, the Country Director of Accountability Lab Mali. We unpack two of these shifts in the Sahel. First, growing anti-French sentiments in the region has led to language decolonization in Mali, in which a growing number of people would rather receive their news in Bambara, one of Mali’s national languages, over French. Secondly, growing internet access has connected people across Mali and has brought more visibility to the plight of Malians living in conflict-affected areas. However, as social media usage grows, so too does online misinformation and disinformation.

Apr 14, 2025 • 32min
Advancing Change in Nigeria: Advocacy in Action
Udo Ilo, author of 'It Is Impossible: Influencing Change in Nigeria', is a leader in governance reform and a CEO at the Hague Institute of Innovation of Law. In this insightful discussion, he tackles the complexities of driving political change in Nigeria, emphasizing the role of collective advocacy and grassroots leadership. Udo shares how turning protests into actionable policy is crucial for progress. He highlights the need for community engagement and personal connections with policymakers to foster accountability and spark meaningful change.


