The CTO Playbook

Adam Horner
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Nov 25, 2025 • 59min

71: The Real Reason Digital Transformations Fail — It’s Not Technology or People

Build your own CTO Playbook at www.theCTOplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.What if the real bottleneck isn’t people or tech but the thing between them?In this episode, I’m joined by Michael Louis Schank, author of Digital Transformation Success. He’s spent years in the trenches at Accenture, Bank of America, EY, and Citi, then struck out on his own to codify what actually works. We dig into his process inventory framework and how it transforms complexity into clarity without wishful thinking.Most transformations stumble not because teams are bad, but because complexity breeds chaos. The fix starts with mapping what the business actually does, naming owners, and tying change to those specific processes. No buzzwords, just the hard work that kills the telephone game and keeps scope, design, and testing honest. And you’ll see why getting the map right beats chasing shiny tools.You’ll Learn:[00:00] Introduction[10:52] Why alignment and systems thinking are the two foundations every transformation depends on[13:17] What happens when business and tech speak different languages and how to finally bridge that gap[19:40] The real reason “easy buttons” and buzzwords keep derailing enterprise change[27:05] How a simple process inventory turns chaos into clarity across teams[31:14] What mapping COBOL systems taught one bank about risk and modernization[33:42] Why ignoring side effects in process change can quietly destroy entire workflows[43:05] How visualizing current state exposes waste and redundancy no one noticed before[45:11] The hidden danger of optimizing what should’ve been deleted in the first place[56:09] What transformation leaders get wrong about ownership, and the one fix that makes it lastResources Mentioned:Digital Transformation Success by Michael Schank | BookYou can connect with Michael on his LinkedIn.Find more from Adam on LinkedIn and YouTube, and check out Adam's CTO coaching company here.
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7 snips
Nov 17, 2025 • 13min

70: A Better Way to Explain Your Platform to Non-Technical Executives

Ever struggled to explain tech concepts to non-techies? Discover how one CTO transformed his message using a floating city metaphor to secure buy-in from co-founders. Learn why traditional analogies like buildings fall short and how to reframe your platform as a living, modular system. Hear how mapping platform components to an oil rig can clarify complex ideas. Get insights on powerful storytelling that enhances leadership without oversimplifying the truth. Practical steps included for anyone looking to communicate effectively!
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Nov 10, 2025 • 52min

69: Breaking Free from Vendor Lock-In: A New Playbook for Modernising Legacy Systems

Build your own CTO Playbook at www.theCTOplaybook.com — the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.When your CTO dies and no one can read the code, you realize the real problem was never the software.In this episode, I sit down with Matteo Di Battista and Marcello Modica, two Italian innovators who’ve spent decades helping companies escape the grip of outdated ERP systems. From IBM mainframes to cloud-native development, they’ve seen how technical debt and siloed knowledge can quietly strangle growth.We get into what happens when your tech stack outlives your people, why monoliths breed fragility, and how breaking systems into small, pluggable services changes everything. It’s not just about new tools—it’s about a new kind of teamwork that keeps knowledge alive even when key players leave.Because modernization isn’t just a tech upgrade—it’s a survival strategy.You’ll Learn:[00:00] Introduction[05:32] Why monolithic ERP systems quietly trap companies in technical debt[09:47] What happens when a CTO’s death exposes a company’s hidden knowledge silos[12:18] The moment you know it’s time to modernize your software before it collapses[15:44] How low-code and visual tools can close the gap between design and delivery[18:56] Why developers are becoming replaceable, and what that means for software teams[23:51] How building a shared development community protects both companies and clients[26:28] The real reason developers resist change even when innovation would make life easier[33:42] What the new network API standard means for identity, payments, and fraud prevention[45:37] How converting old databases into REST APIs transforms legacy systems into living platformsYou can connect on LinkedIn with both Matteo and Marcello, and their work though wavemaker.com and oneclickapp.it.Find more from Adam on LinkedIn and YouTube, and check out Adam's CTO coaching company here.
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Nov 4, 2025 • 1h 7min

68: Startups, AI, and the Funding Reset: What Investors Really Want in 2025

In this discussion, Thorgeir Einarsson, founder of Pitchago, delves into the shifting landscape of startup funding and AI. He highlights that traction is now more crucial than ever as investors prefer application-layer AI over generic models. Hardware is seeing a resurgence, especially in defense and medical sectors. Thorgeir emphasizes the importance of pre-diligence to prepare founders for real investor scrutiny and warns about the overlooked area of AI safety. He offers valuable insights on maintaining strong co-founder relationships and the need for startups to truly understand their customers.
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Oct 28, 2025 • 54min

67: People, Process, Technology: The Leadership Formula Every CTO Needs

Build your own CTO Playbook at www.theCTOplaybook.com — the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.What if the real lever isn’t the tech at all?In this episode, I sit down with Matthew Carr, who does interim work and often comes in as the firefighter when a company has taken a wrong turn. He lays out why people come first, processes second, and technology follows.He started in classic ASP and built a loyalty program for the heating and engineering sector. Real-time results beat long compile cycles and changed how he delivered. A private-equity buyout couldn’t get the startup’s tech delivered, so he sat one-to-one with everyone to map the problems. Turns out, fixing broken delivery isn’t about new tools. It’s about people, trust, and having the guts to act fast.You’ll Learn:The reason putting people first makes process work and technology followWhat happens when you plan three sprints ahead and tie outcomes to business valueThe link between quick wins and winning trust in the first 30 daysThe damage of being six to twelve months off on deliverables after a PE acquisitionWhat it feels like to inherit a program that hasn’t shipped in 18 monthsThe link between weekly iterations, monthly demos, and a product becoming a bedrock of the businessThe reason trust, leadership, and alignment are the core enablers of the people pillarWhat happens when you play their game first by showing a six-week plan the board can approveThe reason “believe in yourself” is the sharpest one-line tip for new CTOsTimestamps:[00:00] Introduction[05:12] Why people come first before process and technology[10:46] Lessons from early development work in classic ASP and loyalty programs[15:58] How a private equity acquisition exposed major delivery delays[21:37] Running a massive retrospective and uncovering 110 problems[28:04] The importance of quick wins and building trust in the first 30 days[33:41] Planning three sprints ahead and reporting outcomes instead of outputs[38:22] Turning around a project that hadn’t shipped in 18 months[45:09] How weekly iterations and monthly demos rebuilt momentum[51:28] The one-line advice Matthew gives every new CTOLearn more from Matthew on LinkedIn.Find more from Adam on LinkedIn and YouTube, and check out Adam's CTO coaching company here.
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Oct 20, 2025 • 49min

66: CTO Playbook: Leading Change Without Chaos — Giorgia Prestento

Build your own CTO Playbook at www.theCTOplaybook.com — the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.Logic alone won’t land; people react to change emotionally.In this episode, I sit down with Giorgia Prestento, a behavioral scientist and author of The Change Maze. She’s here to show why change so often derails and how CTOs can lead through it with clarity and confidence.We break down why rational explanations fall flat, the different speeds leaders and teams move at, and how losing control sparks uncertainty and anxiety. A call center story shows how rewarding quick answers without customer outcomes skews behavior. A Hong Kong example proves that “ask your line manager” messaging failed culturally, so we rewrote it to a nominated peer contact. A pre-mortem setup surfaces blind spots by declaring the project failed and collecting reasons before execution. We run through an eight-step playbook from purpose and alignment to blind spots, impacts, resistance, indicators, validation, and finally execution.You’ll Learn:The reason logic-only change pitches backfireWhat happens when leaders move faster than teamsThe link between the metric you reward and the behavior you getWhat it feels like to run layoffs twiceThe reason pre-mortems workWhat happens when you don’t set indicators earlyThe link between purpose, alignment, and smoother executionWhat happens when a key trainer is missingThe damage of losing clarity at the topTimestamps:[00:00] Introduction[05:18] Why logic fails when leading change[10:42] The emotional side of resistance and uncertainty[15:56] How leaders move faster than their teams[20:11] The blind spot that halted a global SAP rollout[26:27] Why bad metrics destroy good behavior[31:03] Cultural barriers that derail transformation[36:49] The pre-mortem method for spotting hidden risks[42:08] The eight-step change playbookResources Mentioned:Master the Change Maze by Giorgia Prestento | BookGiorgia offers a short assessment 'Leaders: Are You Change Ready?' You will gain valuable insights across the categories of Leadership Style, Change Expertise and the Readiness of your organisation. It takes less than 3 minutes. You get readiness scores in a personalised report. Plus a digital copy of her book, Master the Change Maze. Click here to get started.You can connect more with Giorgia on LinkedIn. Find more from Adam on LinkedIn and YouTube, and check out Adam's CTO coaching company here.
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Oct 13, 2025 • 55min

65: Unrealistic Planning, Broken Collaboration — and How to Fix Both

Build your own CTO Playbook at www.theCTOplaybook.com — the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.Are you optimizing for starting work instead of finishing?In this episode, I’m joined by Joakim von Prónay, an engineer and psychologist by education and a coach by passion.We break down how fake roadmaps and a “Global Roadmap Owner” role turn planning into a Gantt chart exercise. We make planning useful with a simple rule: it’s better to be roughly right than precisely wrong. Predictability becomes the lever for real accountability, measured by “did we do the things we said we were gonna do.” Escalation culture gives way to real collaboration, not the default “ask the boss” reflex.You’ll Learn:The reason long-term planning works when it’s roughly right instead of precisely wrongWhat happens when teams are incentivized to start work instead of finish itThe link between delivery predictability and real prioritization and accountabilityThe damage of treating roadmaps like a Gantt chart exerciseWhat it feels like when every question defaults to “ask the boss” instead of talking directlyThe reason fragmented steering creates conflicting directionsThe link between a single “central rule” and measurable goalsTimestamps:[00:00] Introduction[06:14] Why high-performing teams are so rare[09:27] The danger of planning for perfection[15:46] Why teams start work instead of finishing it[19:32] The power of predictability and real accountability[25:40] When collaboration breaks down into escalation[31:58] What fragmented steering really looks like[38:45] The rule that defines true strategy[46:23] A Spotify story and the engineer’s warning[51:17] How alignment turns insight into actionConnect more with Joakim on LinkedIn.Find more from Adam on LinkedIn and YouTube, and check out Adam's CTO coaching company here.
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Oct 6, 2025 • 59min

64: What Got You Here Won’t Get You There — CTO Leadership with Catherine Stagg-Macey

Catherine Stagg-Macey, an executive coach for technical experts transitioning into leadership, shares her insights on the struggles of moving from individual contributor to team leader. She highlights why being the smartest person in the room can become a hindrance and explores the damaging 'hero' culture that leads to burnout. Catherine discusses the importance of recognizing triggers, testing new leadership behaviors, and how upbringing influences leadership styles. The conversation also touches on the potential role of AI in coaching.
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Sep 29, 2025 • 40min

63: How Corey Hart Scaled a Crisis Team Fast — Without Losing Trust

Build your own CTO Playbook here, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact!Would you say yes to leading through chaos with no plan, little information, and no guarantee of success?In this episode, I sit down with Corey Hart, a crisis operator who’s built a career on scaling massive humanitarian and operations projects under extreme pressure. He’s said yes to projects most people would run from, from helping New York City respond to a sudden influx of asylum seekers to standing up global call centers and navigating cruise ship operations post-lockdown.We get into how he prepares for the unknown, what it takes to build trust in the middle of a storm, and why surrounding yourself with the right people makes the difference between collapse and momentum.You’ll Learn:The reason Corey says yes to high-stakes projects others avoidWhat happens when you’re asked to launch a humanitarian response overnightThe link between early onboarding and a culture of openness and candorThe damage of overcomplicating operations when speed is criticalWhat it feels like to land in a crisis with little info and no certaintyWhy bringing compliance and tech in early turns them into strategistsThe role of trust in holding teams together under extreme pressureHow living autopsies fix problems in real time, not after the factThe mindset shift that turns specialists into early-stage leadersWhy tracking from day one helps you see around corners in chaosTimestamps:[00:00] Introduction[05:58] Saying yes to unpredictable challenges[07:02] Scaling New York’s asylum seeker response[11:58] Handling moments when operations nearly collapse[14:02] Filtering signal from noise in crisis decision-making[17:56] Building openness and candor into team culture[20:06] Creating trust and making failure safe[22:01] Why saying yes builds momentum and possibility[27:00] Unlikely outcomes from saying yes[31:00] Keeping operations simple and avoiding scope creep[33:02] Tracking data early to guide decisions under pressure[35:00] Bringing compliance and tech in early to shape solutions[37:56] Knowing when and how to step out of a crisis projectResources Mentioned:Podcast Episode The CEO’s Playbook for Hiring the Right CTO with Warren Beasley | YouTubeYou can connect with Corey on LinkedIn and his website.Find more from Adam on LinkedIn and YouTube, and check out Adam's CTO coaching company here.
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23 snips
Sep 22, 2025 • 44min

62: Tech Debt Is Killing Your Team — Here’s What to Do About It

Lou Franco, a veteran software engineer and author of "Swimming in Tech Debt," joins to discuss the often-overlooked burden of tech debt on engineering teams. He shares insights from his career, including critical lessons learned during fintech projects and startup acquisitions. Lou explains how small, focused fixes can drastically improve productivity and morale while highlighting the risks of ignoring tech debt. He emphasizes the importance of creating a culture that acknowledges and manages debt effectively, linking it to a product's lifecycle for optimal tech management.

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