Move Your DNA with Katy Bowman

This Episode's Show NotesJoin Our Newsletter: Movement Colored GlassesTry Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days! As we age, maintaining muscle power—not just strength—is key to staying independent, quick, and injury-free. In this episode, Katy and Jeannette explain the difference between strength and power, and why adding speed or intensity to the movements you're already doing—like walking, climbing stairs, or getting up from a chair—can make all the difference. From stair climbing to pickleball to plyometrics, learn practical ways to build power and maintain independence for years to come.They share practical ways to train power with (or without) an overhaul to your routine, and Katy chats with masters athlete and Peluva co-founder Brad Kearns about maintaining explosive strength after 60. Hear how Brad shifted from endurance to high jump, why minimalist shoes can support aging feet, and how smarter movement helps you age better.CHAPTERS00:02:15 - Power - the definitions 00:06:10 - The Dynamic Collective 00:12:05 - Why Power is Important as You Get Older 00:21:15 - Listener Question about Plyometrics brought to you by Smart Playrooms 00:31:30 - Interview with power athlete Brad Kearns of Peluva Footwear  BOOKS & RESEARCH MENTIONEDMy Perfect Movement Plan by Katy BowmanWhole Body Barefoot by Katy BowmanACSM’s Health & Fitness Journal Special Edition on Power  YOUR VOICE ON THE PODCASTThe closing of each episode features a listener reading the credits. We want your voice! Click here for the script and an easy one-click recording. MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR WONDERFUL SPONSORS:Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10Ikaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the officeSweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 20% off with code Movement20Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENTEarth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10

This Episode's Show NotesJoin Our Newsletter: Movement Colored GlassesKaty Bowman and Jeannette Loram dig into the science—and the hype—around so-called “exercise pills.” They unpack what these drugs do at the molecular level, what they can—and can’t—mimic about exercise, and who might benefit—from elite athletes to people with disabilities or chronic illness. The conversation goes beyond physiology into questions of culture, psychology, and even the future of sport—where performance-enhancing technologies are blurring the lines between natural and engineered human potential.CHAPTERS 0:03:12 The Dynamic Collective 0:04:28 – How Do Exercise Pills Work?0:06:50 – Exercise Pills, Skeletal Muscle targets and ‘Enhanced’ Sport Performance0:12:30 – Who Might Benefit from Exercise Pills?0:14:08 – Why Pills Can’t Replace All The Effects of Exercise0:24:26 – Can Exercise Pills Close the Health Gap? And Why Are We Failing To Exercise Enough?0:34:26 – Beyond Blood Panels: What Pills Miss About Movement0:36:56 – Listener Question brought to you by Venn Design   RESEARCH MENTIONEDMimicking Exercise: What Matters Most and Where To Next? Hawley et al (2021)Exercise pills for cardiometabolic health cannot mimic the exercise milieu Plaza-Florido et al (2025)MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR WONDERFUL SPONSORS:Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the officeSmart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENTIkaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10Sweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 20% off with code Movement20

This Episode's Show NotesJoin Our Newsletter: Movement Colored GlassesKaty Bowman and Jeannette Loram explore skin strength, focusing on what a callus is, how calluses form on the hands and feet, and how it affects circulation. They also discuss the pros and cons of calluses, comparing them to a weight belt for your skin—reinforcing, protecting, and ultimately enabling your body to do more.They share personal stories—from rowing and kayaking to gardening—highlighting how it's often skin, not muscles, that limits activity. Katy also chats with Karri Bowen-Poole, founder of Smart Playrooms, about designing home spaces that promote hanging, build skin strength, and support kids’ physical and cognitive development. They cover equipment ideas, dynamic home design tips, and draw inspiration from Ninja Warrior athletes.CHAPTERS 00:04:30 - The Dynamic Collective 00:08:20 - What is a Callus? And the Listener Question on calluses & circulation brought to you by Sweet Skins 00:22:30 - Updated insights about the Callus, skin strength and its relationship to whole-body movement  00:35:25 - Skin Tissue and Thoughtful Progression00:42:00 - Interview with Karri Bowen-Poole, founder of Smart PlayroomsBOOKS & RESEARCH PAPERSMove Your DNA by Katy BowmanSimple Steps to Foot Pain Relief by Katy Bowman Callus Formation by Kim et al (2010)Blood Flow In The Skin in relation to temperature and pressure by J Petrofsky (2012)Foot Callus and Tactile Sensitivity by Holowka et al (2019) - Daniel Lieberman group MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR WONDERFUL SPONSORS:Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENTVenn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the officeSmart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10Sweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 20% off with code Movement20Ikaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10

This Episode's Show NotesJoin Our Newsletter: Movement Colored GlassesIn this episode, Katy Bowman and Jeannette Loram dive into the fascinating relationship between blood sugar, diet, and movement. They unpack how the body regulates blood sugar, what happens when this process breaks down in Type I and Type II diabetes, and why different kinds of activity play such a big role in prevention and management.Katy and Jeannette explain how contracting muscles can pull glucose directly into working cells during exercise—a powerful but site-specific effect—and how long-term training reshapes muscle to take up glucose more efficiently.They also compare the blood sugar benefits of endurance exercise, resistance training, HIIT, stretching, and even light daily movement. Along the way, they highlight two key scenarios: insulin resistance linked to excess weight and inflammation, versus insulin resistance driven by low muscle mass in people with normal weight. For the latter, they stress why resistance training—or “big body work”—is especially essential.CHAPTERS 0:06:00 - Definitions 0:16:00 - The Dynamic Collective 0:17:00 - You Can’t Exercise Off Diabetes 0:20:00 - Muscle is the Key Tissue (and the Liver)0:36:30 - Stretching & Light Activity 0:47:00 - Exercise Modality for Blood Sugar Regulation0:54:25 - Listener Question on Lupus brought to you by Peluva 1:09:09 - Blood Sugar Spikes During Exercise BOOKS & RESEARCH PAPERS My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy BowmanI know I should Exercise, But... by Diana Hill & Katy BowmanExercise and GLUT4 by Flores-Opazo et al (2020) Mechanisms of endurance and resistance exercise in type 2 diabetes by Zhao et al (2025)  Sedentary behaviour as a mediator of type 2 diabetes by Hamilton et al (2015) Impact of reduced sitting time or increasing sit-to-stand transitions on blood pressure and glucose regulation in Postmenopausal women by Hartman et al (2025) The impact of standing desks on cardiometabolic and vascular health by Bodker et al (2021) MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR WONDERFUL SPONSORS:Sweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 20% off with code Movement20Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENTIkaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the officeEarth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10

This Episode's Show NotesJoin Our Newsletter: Movement Colored GlassesIn this episode, Katy Bowman and Jeannette Loram have a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation with neuro-optometrist Dr. Bryce Appelbaum.Dr. Appelbaum breaks down the crucial difference between eyesight—what you can see—and vision—how your brain interprets what you see and turns it into action. Together, they explore the striking parallels between physical and visual health, highlighting how prolonged screen time and visual inactivity can stiffen our eye muscles just like sedentary habits stiffen our joints. Focusing on screens all day is like clenching your fist nonstop—leading to eye strain, headaches, and long-term issues like poor eye coordination, which can affect depth perception, balance, and even increase the risk of falls.The conversation covers everything from visual tics and dry eyes to how vision is connected to musculoskeletal alignment and behavior—and even offers a glimpse into the future of eye health in our tech-heavy world. Dr. Appelbaum also shares how anyone can improve visual stamina and flexibility, and Katy and Jeannette reflect on their personal experience with his online program ScreenFit—a movement program for your eyes! Dr Appelbaum is offering our listeners $200 off ScreenFit using code MOVEYOURDNA: https://bit.ly/moveyourdnaSFCHAPTERS00:03:10 - Introducing Dr. Appelbaum 00:09:30 - Impacts of Screens on Vision  00:25:30 -  Unlocking Vision Potential Through Exercise - ScreenFit 00:41:00 - Listener Question on Dry Eyes brought to you by Earth Runners  00:50:40 - The Future of the Screen Time/Vision Connection BOOKS MENTIONEDMy Perfect Movement Plan by Katy BowmanMADE POSSIBLE BY OUR WONDERFUL SPONSORS:Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10Sweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 20% off with code Movement20Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENTIkaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the officeSmart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10

Explore the fascinating evolution of rucking and the cultural significance of carrying heavy loads. Discover how body adjustments can prevent discomfort while managing the challenges of rucking. Insights on integrating weights into yoga for fitness enhancement are also discussed. Plus, learn about the impact of medical hardware on bone health and the significance of mindful movement practices. This engaging conversation encourages a more thoughtful approach to fitness and personal health.

Mira Fannin, founder of Sweet Skins and expert in movement-friendly fashion, joins the conversation about the intersection of clothing and movement. They dive into how various fabrics, from compressive to loose fits, can influence physical activity. Mira shares the philosophy behind her hemp-cotton designs, promoting comfort and style for busy women. They also explore the famous Bike Time pants and how to dress for both planned and spontaneous activities, emphasizing that thoughtful clothing choices can enhance mobility and comfort in everyday life.

Pack Matthews, founder of Ikaria Design and creator of the innovative Soul Seat, joins to discuss eccentric exercise, a method that enables you to gain strength efficiently. He and Katy explore how focusing on just the lowering phase of an exercise can lead to significant strength gains without the energy drain of full movements. They also dive into the design evolution of the Soul Seat, highlighting its role in promoting movement in daily life. This conversation blends biomechanics with practical advice, making strength training accessible for everyone.

This Episode's Show NotesJoin Our Newsletter: Movement Colored GlassesBiomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram take a deeper look into three recent headlines in the body-nerd world.First up, recent research has shown that our skeletal muscles remember training at the protein level - no brain required! This is exciting research and Katy and Jeannette discuss the implications for exercise over the lifespan. Second, they dig into a recent study of uphill walking; the research suggests it is cheaper to take the steeper route, but energy efficiency might not be the only consideration. Finally in response to the online noise about recent changes to the CDC developmental guidelines, Katy and Jeannette explain what has really changed and whether it should have caused such an upset.CHAPTERS02:50 - Muscle Memory  17:12 - Steeper is Cheaper  28:02 - Changes in the CDC milestones  43:22 - Listener Question sponsored by Peluva:  Is it inevitable that our body and parts wear out? ARTICLES AND RESEARCH MENTIONEDNew Explanation of Muscle Memory in Science Daily Skeletal Muscle Proteomic Memory by Hulmi et al (2025)Steeper is Cheaper in Outside Magazine Graded Walking Energetics by Looney et al (2025)CDC Developmental GuidelinesEvidence Informed Milestones by Zubler et al (2022) MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR SPONSORS:Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities, take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENTSmart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office Sweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 15% off with code DNA15 Ikaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10

This Episode's Show NotesJoin Our Newsletter: Movement Colored GlassesBiomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram continue their discussion about the skeleton. In this episode, they break down the best approach to taking care of your bones using a government framework: Strong, Steady and Straight. They use this framework to discuss exercise and bone loading at three life-stages: a growing skeleton, a mature skeleton and a vulnerable skeleton. Listen to this episode to design a movement plan for your bones.Also in this episode, Katy talks to Mike Dally, founder of Earth Runners, minimalist earthing sandals. Katy has walked more miles in Earth Runners than in any other shoe and Katy and Mike talk about her favourite features; from the non-slip foot bed to the replaceable straps and laces. Mike explains earthing technology and testing and describes their latest product that can ground any minimal shoe.Books Mentioned:Grow Wild by Katy BowmanMove Your DNA by Katy BowmanMy Perfect Movement Plan by Katy BowmanResearch Mentioned:LIFTMOR Randomized Controlled Trial by Watson et al (2018)Aquatic Jump Training Review by Mullenax et al (2021) Made Possible by Our Dynamic Collective of Wonderful Sponsors:Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office; Sweet Skins, beautiful organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 15% off with code DNA15;  Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10; Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for higher impact activities, take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT; Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10 and; Ikaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10.