
Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
A podcast about the design, development, and business of great software. Each week thoughtbot is joined by the people who build and nurture the products we love.
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May 16, 2016 • 49min
194: Changing Your Internet Home
Chris transitions Upcase to thoughtbot.com/upcase for SEO and branding purposes, and introduces reactivate & resubscribe functionality. Ben publishes a blog post on Formkeep's pricing history, optimizes the initial form setup page, and begins work to implement a no credit card up-front trial.
Upcase
Formkeep
ConvertKit’s 3,000% revenue growth that nobody saw coming- Josh Pigford
Is your company really only doing $45,000 per month?- Josh Pigford
Hedonic Treadmill
A Tale of Three Pricing Models- Ben Orenstein
2012 SaaS Conversions Benchmark
Wim Hof Method
Fastly
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May 9, 2016 • 45min
193: This Episode Has Been Brought to You By the Letter 'S'
Ben switches from Mandrill to Sendgrid, turns a corner on his guarantee vs trial test, and begins the process of overhauling Formkeep's UI. Meanwhile, on Upcase, Chris utilizes an interesting method for A/B Testing, teases a secret project, and increases SEO by changing out the header.
Upcase
Formkeep
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May 2, 2016 • 51min
192: The High End of Reasonable
Ben and Chris muse on the nature of weather-related happiness. Also, Ben works on instrumenting Formkeep's activation funnel, utilizes a monitoring utility to optimize sign-up flow, and vows to almost certainly not toy with pricing any more. Meanwhile on Upcase, Chris confronts multiple root causes for a dip in MRR, updates content displays, and overhauls the checkout.
Upcase
Formkeep
The Hedonic Treadmill
FullStory
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Apr 25, 2016 • 47min
191: I've Done it Once, I'm an Expert
Ben and Chris discuss taxes and financial (as well as bedtime) routines. On Upcase, Chris showcases "The Weekly Iteration" on the site, reveals a long-term dream for the platform, and patches a critical security issue. Ben adds a bunch of features to cut down on support requests, does some UX cleanup, and performs other general tasks to improve usability on Formkeep.
Upcase
Formkeep
Philips Hue
The Weekly Iteration
Campaign Monitor- HTML Email Design Guidelines
Git remote code execution vulnerability
Flexbox
Flexbox on The Weekly Iteration
AccountDock
calendly
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Apr 19, 2016 • 56min
190: An Unkempt Backlog
Chris makes progress on Upcase's to-dos in order to shift focus to after-the-funnel improvements, and makes a renewed vow to talk to customers for direct feedback. Meanwhile, Ben attends a conference, and while he picked up some great strategies for Formkeep onboarding, he mostly just wants to fix the airline industry.
Upcase
Formkeep
Advanced ActiveRecord Querying- Bloopers
Gail Goodman: When software and people mix- Business of Software 2012
Startups For the Rest of Us Ep 212- The Long, Slow Death of SaaS Ramp
MicroConf
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Apr 11, 2016 • 49min
189: Swimming Against a Stream of Complexity
Chris keeps improving MRR on Upcase, patches a Javascript problem with a Javascript solution, and implements benefit focused text on course descriptions. On Formkeep, Ben discovers a flaw in an A/B test, deals with squirrely payment code, and prepares for a conference talk.
Upcase
Formkeep
MicroConf
Briefs
Dark Patterns on Tentative Podcast
Percy.io- Visual regression testing
Paul Fernell (Litmus) on Giant Robots
Weekly Iteration- Intro to Accessibility
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Apr 4, 2016 • 46min
188: I Have a Spreadsheet!
Ben decides to A/B test pricing, begins grandfathering existing customers to the new tiers, teases new features on Formkeep, and recounts some interesting customer interactions. Meanwhile, Chris drives conversions through e-mail and Twitter, identifies unique customer segments, and brings in more of the thoughtbot voice to Upcase.
Formkeep
Upcase
Visual Website Optomizer
Split Gem
Honeybadger
thoughtbot YouTube
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Mar 28, 2016 • 54min
187: Missed You!
Chris welcomes a new member to team Upcase, confronts a drop in MRR, and looks forward to increased content production. On Formkeep, Ben introduces tiered pricing and trials, considers tier differentiators, and muses on what next to implement.
Formkeep
Upcase
Zapier
a smart bear
Designing the Ideal Bootstrapped Business- Jason Cohen
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Mar 14, 2016 • 37min
186: Learning Through Experimentation (Ryan Buckley)
Ben and Chris welcome on Ryan Buckley, co-founder of Scripted, for an honest discussion on the shortcomings, pain-points, and benefits that arise from restructuring a product's focus.
Formkeep
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Scripted
Ryan on Twitter
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Mar 7, 2016 • 30min
185: The Funnel is Just the Beginning (Lincoln Murphy)
Ben welcomes SaaS growth and customer success pioneer Lincoln Murphy to discuss the true importance of providing value to existing customers and focusing on their success, as every tactic you undertake as a business is predicated on understanding their desired outcome. He also delves into how focusing on customer type is beneficial for both consumers and producers, as well as gives Ben some feedback about Formkeep.
Formkeep
The Value of Keeping the Right Customers
80/20 Rule
Jobs-to-be-Done
Ideal Customer Profile Framework
Sixteen Ventures
Lincoln on Twitter
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