
Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
A podcast about the design, development, and business of great software. Each week thoughtbot is joined by the people who build and nurture the products we love.
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Jul 4, 2017 • 33min
244: A Fork in the Road (Seth Godin)
Chad chats with Seth Godin, a bestselling author and marketing guru known for works like 'The Dip' and 'Tribes.' They explore the critical shift businesses must make from innovation to mainstream appeal. Seth emphasizes the importance of building loyal communities and the challenges of B2B selling. He advocates for courageous innovation even in the face of failure, while discussing the transformative power of programs like altMBA that foster empathy in business. The episode also highlights how storytelling and collaboration can enhance problem-solving.

Jun 27, 2017 • 37min
243: Mostly Local (Mike McKenna)
Chad is joined by Mike McKenna, CEO of Shotgunflat, to discuss cultivating a business in the town in which one grew up, working with family, the effect of adding a sales team to a consultancy, and the legislation of craft-brewing.
Shotgunflat
Thirsty Goat Brewing
Mtn Wknd
Mike on Twitter
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Jun 19, 2017 • 24min
242: Too Dressed Up For The Internet (Kim Goulbourne)
Chad is joined by thoughtbot designer Kim Goulbourne to discuss inspiration, side projects, and winning a Webby Award!
The Webby Awards
Bitter Renter
"Suck it Zillow. I won!"
No Questions Asked
Made By Bourn
Kim on Twitter
Kim on Instagram
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Jun 7, 2017 • 1h 2min
241: I Don’t Like Talking to Computers (Nick Charlton)
Chad is joined by Nick Charlton, thoughtbot developer and co-host of the Build Phase podcast, to give their impressions on all the news out of the WWDC17 Keynote & Platforms State of the Union.
Build Phase
WWDC17 Keynote
Platforms State of the Union
I/O '17 discussion on The Bike Shed
Encoding and Decoding Custom Types
Argo
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Jun 5, 2017 • 56min
240: Handing Over the Reins
Ben outlines his next steps, reflects on his time at thoughtbot, and hands the proverbial podcast reins over to Chad.
Ballroom Dancing Onboarding on Giant Robots
The Art of Product Podcast
Art of Vim Intro- Ben acting in a smoking jacket
Upcase
Refactoring From Good to Great
"Blurred Lines"- Kyle Fiedler
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May 29, 2017 • 36min
239: Change is in the Air
Ben bids adieu to thoughtbot, and outlines his plans, hopes, and fears for the future.
Upcase
FormKeep
How to negotiate the Long, Slow, SaaS Ramp of Death- Gail Goodman
The Stairstep Approach to Bootstrapping- Rob Walling
Natalie Nagele on Giant Robots
Vim University
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May 22, 2017 • 20min
238: The Graph is Beautiful
Derrick gets technical about Drip's performance optimization, and reflects on pre-conceived opinions in regards to tactical & strategic planning after receiving some constructive criticism.
Upcase
FormKeep
Studio Pics
New Relic
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Apr 29, 2017 • 34min
237: Steve Jobs Used Slides
Ben and Derrick recount their experiences and lessons learned speaking at MicroConf.
Upcase
FormKeep
MicroConf
Hedonic Treadmill
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Apr 22, 2017 • 38min
236: Care For Customer Support (Spencer Fry)
Ben is joined this week by Spencer Fry, founder of TypeFrag, Carbonmade, Uncover, and Coach, to discuss carryover lessons of successful startups.
Upcase
FormKeep
TypeFrag
Carbonmade
Coach
Why I Started Coach
Being a Solo Founder
Notation Capital
Perseverance Pays Off
Creativity, Inc.
Spencer on Twitter
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Apr 12, 2017 • 31min
235: Meta Talk Process
As we prepare for MicroConf, Ben takes a new tact on his talk after giving an early demo, and Derrick recounts a positive pair-programming experience.
Upcase
FormKeep
Screenhero
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