

Like Mind, Like Body
Curable: the program for chronic pain recovery through mindbody medicine
Struggling with chronic pain? Listen in to learn about the amazing ways our thoughts, feelings, and experiences can impact our physical health and perpetuate symptoms. On each episode, we interview physicians, researchers, and ordinary people who have incredible stories to tell about the power of the mindbody connection. This podcast is a free resource brought to you by Curable: the program for chronic pain recovery through mindbody medicine. Learn more at curable.com
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May 17, 2023 • 43min
Why It’s Okay to Be Skeptical About Healing (Lilia Graue, MD, LMFT)
When it comes to healing, do you need to believe that there is only one “right path” for you? Dr. Lilia Graue doesn’t think so. In this episode, she shares her take on how skepticism and uncertainty can be welcomed in as a natural part of the healing journey. This episode is hosted by Christie Uipi, LCSW, Executive Director of the Better Mind Center.
Feb 22, 2023 • 32min
Your Experience is Valid (Kamil Lewis, LMFT)
"Taking care of yourself is a resilient act, one that requires vulnerability, rest, and compassion." That’s the advice that Kamil Lewis, LMFT, gives to her clients who are struggling with chronic pain. In this fan-favorite episode from 2020, Kamil offers validation and guidance on navigating experiences that contribute to chronic pain, like oppression, marginalization, and burnout. Join us to learn tips on building community, validating your experience, and reigniting your sex life in the face of chronic symptoms.
Jan 18, 2023 • 29min
Supercharged Wellness: Treating the Physical, Mental and Emotional (Katie Estridge, PT, MPT, PYT)
Physical therapist and yoga therapist Katie Estridge shares her holistic approach to treating patients with chronic pain, incorporating techniques like meditation and gentle yoga flows. She discusses her own battle with chronic pain and how the Curable app helped her find relief. The podcast explores the integration of physical therapy and yoga therapy for overall wellness, overcoming migraines through self-discovery, and the connection between personal wellness and professional practice.
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Nov 17, 2022 • 33min
Chronic Pain No More
"I don’t consider myself to have chronic pain anymore.” This is a sentence you don’t expect to hear from a friend who has experienced decades of unexplained symptoms. For Phil, however, it’s exactly what happened. Tune in to hear how Phil’s struggles with back pain, neck pain and fibromyalgia led him to the physical, mental, and emotional healing journey of a lifetime.
Oct 19, 2022 • 39min
"The Mother of Mindfulness" Gives Her Take on Chronic Pain (Ellen Langer, PhD)
“When we get a diagnosis, we tend to hold it still. Then we assume that it’s going to stay that way or get worse. People hear the word ‘chronic' as ‘uncontrollable' or ‘incurable.' Nothing in and of itself is incurable. All that means is that we haven’t yet found the way to cure it.” In this episode, the “Mother of Mindfulness,” Harvard professor Dr. Ellen Langer, gives her take on chronic pain. Join us to learn about how mindlessness impacts daily life, the benefits of embracing uncertainty, and why noticing change could be the key too healing.
Sep 28, 2022 • 36min
Finding Hope in the Darkness
Years ago, Dan received a cancer diagnosis. He underwent major surgery to remove the tumor from his spinal cord, but his life changed drastically when he woke up paralyzed from the chest down. Although his sensation eventually returned, it brought excruciating pain along with it. Join us to hear how Dan went from daily pain levels of 8-10 to a near full recovery in one year.
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Aug 17, 2022 • 37min
A Neurologist’s Perspective on Chronic Pain (Dr. Dario Zagar)
Dr. Dario Zagar is no stranger to chronic pain. In addition to treating it in his office every day, he’s experienced symptoms like migraine and back pain in his own life. Today, Dr. Zagar is an associate professor at Yale and a practicing neurologist, and he is determined to help people with pain find the same relief that he did.
Jun 8, 2022 • 42min
Slow and Steady Recovery from Post-Concussion Syndrome
After participating in her college horseback riding team, Katia started to experience a combination of physical symptoms that baffled her. Her constant background headache, whiplash, and body aches eventually turned into migraines that lasted for half of each month. Katia was later diagnosed with Post-Concussion Syndrome and spent years shrinking her life to fit around her symptoms. Today, Katia has finally discovered her path to healing and managed to reduce her symptoms by about 85% over the course of two years. Tune in to hear about Katia’s slow and steady path to recovery and learn exactly what she did to find relief.
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May 11, 2022 • 60min
How to Get Back to Your Favorite Activities, With or Without Pain (Dr. Asare Christian)
There are two key questions Dr. Asare Christian asks each of his patients in their first meeting: “What is your understanding of why you have pain?” and “What has your pain prevented you from doing?” Answering these questions, he believes, is critical to developing a treatment plan that is actually going to work. In this episode, we examine each question in-depth, understanding why each is so important and what can be done with the answers.
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Apr 6, 2022 • 40min
Set the Right Goals For Your Healing (Callie Klebanoff, LCSW)
Wish you could reduce your pain? Of course you do. But according to Callie Klebanoff, LCSW, pain reduction is not always the best goal to set at the start of your healing journey. Tune in to hear about how her unconventional starting point can improve the odds of long-term success.


