
Magical Thinking
For over a decade, host Elliott Terral has been consumed by the art of magic. He’s been fortunate to travel the globe and meet some of the greatest magicians the world has ever seen. Magical Thinking serves to share deep, revealing conversations with some of the best creative thinkers, philosophers, and practitioners of conjuring and the performing arts about inspiration, creativity, successes and failures, and what it all means.
Latest episodes

Jul 6, 2017 • 2h 15min
(Ep 59) Michael Stern
Episode 59: Michael “My Turn” Stern sits down with Elliott to chat about HypePlayingCards.com, Cardistry-Con 2017, being a member of the magic castle Junior Program, and his passion for skateboarding. Michael and Elliott have been friends for several years, and this is a fun catch-up between the two. Enjoy!

Jun 29, 2017 • 2h 18min
(Ep 58) Scot Nery
Episode 58: Scot Nery, host of Boobie Trap in Hollywood and world renowned juggler, comedian, and showman, sits down with Elliott to chat variety shows, comedy, performance theory, and more. Enjoy!

Jun 22, 2017 • 2h 25min
(Ep 57) Pop Haydn
Episode 57: Pop Haydn, 7 time “Performer of the Year” for the Academy of Magical Arts and a certifiable genius, sits down with Elliott to discuss magic and story, character development and backstory, the Magic Castle in the 70’s, and so much more. This episode is dense with gold. Head over to Patreon.com/MagicalThinking to see BTS pictures from the episode, including Dai Vernon’s joke napkin. Enjoy!

Jun 15, 2017 • 2h 8min
(Ep 56) Kent Jenkins
Episode 56: Kent Jenkins, Snubby J on YouTube, chats with Elliott about creativity, personal growth, performing authentically, and professional evolution. This is a fun and funny episode where Elliott and Kent share their unguarded opinions, laughs, and stories. Enjoy!

Jun 8, 2017 • 1h 47min
(Ep 55) Michael Borys
Episode 55: Michael Borys, creator of Elliott's most magical experience and a phenomenal interactive show, The 49 Boxes, sits down to chat about the magic world, puzzles, alternate and augmented reality and creating experiences! This episode is full of gold, and Michael is fascinating and wonderful. Enjoy!

Jun 1, 2017 • 2h 19min
(Ep 54) Tony Cabral
Episode 54: Tony Cabral, contributor to MUM, expert sleight-of-hand magician, and entertainment behind the bar at Legal's Test Kitchen in Boston, sits down with Elliott to discuss gambling themed magic, character development, and more. Enjoy!

May 25, 2017 • 1h 53min
(Ep 53) Franco Pascali
Episode 53: Franco Pascali joins Elliott to talk about style, imposter syndrome, putting together new material, and the list of things magician's shouldn't do. Enjoy!

May 20, 2017 • 11min
Vignette: 1 Year Anniversary
Sneak peaks at the new ArtofMagic.com website, updates for Magical Thinking, and a tease of one of the perks for Elliott's future Patreon! Enjoy!

May 11, 2017 • 3h 3min
(Ep 52) Brad Henderson
Brad Henderson, a magician and consultant from Austin, Texas, dives into the emotional nuances of magic performance. He discusses the importance of audience engagement, revealing how genuine connection elevates the experience beyond mere tricks. Brad also addresses the ethical responsibilities of magicians, emphasizing the need for inclusivity and self-awareness in the community. With personal anecdotes, he explores how nostalgia shapes creativity and the significance of original approaches in modernizing classic magic.

May 4, 2017 • 1h 39min
(Ep 51) James Went
Episode 51: James Went, magic consultant, BAFTA winning television performer, professional musician, and Welshman, sits down with Elliott to talk about putting together an act for the Magic Castle close-up room, performing magic on television, touring a theatre show, and Steve Vai's Tender Surrender. A fun and funny episode with some great stories. Enjoy!