Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThis week Nancy and Sarah butter up the prolific and enviably clever journalist/novelist Kat Rosenfield. Kat takes us back to the days of writing $15 posts for MTV News and through the confounding episode of her cancellation in the young-adult fiction world, which led to a stellar career as, among other things, a culture columnist at UnHerd and co-host of the podcast Feminine Chaos. She writes compulsively readable thrillers, too! Also discussed:* That time Kat was suspended from Twitter for telling someone to …* The YA lit dogpile that Kat wrote her way out of* Why she thinks most cancellations are “an overcoat over some personal beef”* Her obsession with the loss of social trust* Our conflict between wanting women to have the agency of their own choices and wanting to keep them safe* Ahhh, Howard Stern memories (and how apparently no woman should be over 120 pounds in the 90s)* The disappointing reveal of the Lauren Boebert footage* How to solve a problem like Russell Brand?* Age of consent and 16 year olds* The podcaster that makes Kat bite her lips* New Beauty Mark recommendations to make you smooth, soft and sleepyAnd much more!

Michael Moynihan, co-host of 'The Fifth Column' podcast, discusses the attempted LA Times takedown of a Bari Weiss debate. They talk about the importance of welcoming debate, Michael's interest in history, and why journalism school isn't recommended. They also mention Bill Maher, a new podcast on 80s New York crime, and the greatness of Shane Gillis.

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comIt’s September 11, and what does it say that neither of us recalled the date the minute we woke up? And what would it be like to wake up and find you are, perhaps, being made an example of? Danny Masterson, star of That 70s Show, found out last week, as did former Proud Boys chairman Enrique Tarrio, each receiving what seem to be outsized sentences, in Masterson’s case, 30 years to life for rape, in Tarrio’s 22 years for seditious conspiracy. Were the men’s long sentences affected by their affiliations to Scientology and the Proud Boys, respectively, and a public hunger for a whipping boy? And what do Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis have to apologize for? (Hint: nothing.) Also discussed this episode:* What it was like for Sarah to be in Bolivia when the towers came down* An alleged LAPD/Scientology conspiracy seems unlikely …* But how did Scientologists thwart the victims in the Masterson case (in one case charging $15k for auditing)?* Thing we really didn’t want to know about Mackenzie Phillips* How “intentional” was January 6?* Men are turning away from college: Could the “bro-chure” bring them back?* The debut of Beauty Bump, a regular tidbit wherein Nancy and Sarah share the products/gizmos/routines that keep them soft and lovely (please do not disabuse us of this notion).* Gen Xers dig Olivia RodrigoAlso, tonight, September 11, Nancy will be reading at P & T Knitwear Bookstore, 180 Orchard St, 6:30-8pm. Come by and say hi!And don’t sleep on heading over to Apple podcasts to rate and review ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️!We become ever softer and lovelier when you become a paid subscriber

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah are joined by Chaya Leah Sufrin, one-half of the wonderful “Ask a Jew” podcast, to talk about a subject she’s mostly avoided: Weight and her own body. Chaya Leah recently lost 45 pounds, which coincides with a season when Sarah was shedding weight too, making for one big conversation about diets, discipline, self-care versus self-neglect, and the mental health savior that is exercise. Topics include:* The forbidden TV show Chaya Leah used to sneak-watch as a young girl* The secret to weight loss is deciding to do it* How do you balance body positivity with, umm, reality?* Atkins, South Beach, Weight Watchers, Scarsdale, etc etc.* The Jane Fonda workout and the 80s VHS fitness craze* Vitamin B12 shots, yea or nay?* Everyone thinks Chaya Leah is on Ozempic (she’s not)* Nancy and Sarah share a fantasy and it involves … pills?* Chaya Leah’s crush on Elon Musk* Did the ADL go to the way of the ACLU?* Who Nancy wants to play her in the movieAnd much more!

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comEthan Strauss, the wunderkind of the House of Strauss, joins groupies fans Sarah and Nancy to talk about …* Nike ads and the failure of trying to sell what does not resonate* Sports in an era of “toxic masculinity” * The atomization of men?* The podcaster/comedian Ethan and Sarah bonded over* Ethan’s 2 + 2 magic formula for success* Why football’s downfall was greatly exaggerated * Why we love old men in coffee shops and their fart jokes* Aspirational groupies are a thing* Ethan’s favorite sports movie * That time Sarah made Ethan cry* Why The New Yorker no longer excites us* The MSNBC anchor in an Under Armour scandal?And much more!Don’t forget: First Sunday Zoom hang happens this Sunday, September 3, where we talk Shattered Glass! We’ll send the link to subscribers on the day-of …The thrill of victory will be yours when you become a paid subscriber

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com* Porno chic = a real moment in American culture* A NYT column introduces a great question about sex, but the advice? zzzzz* Jesse Singal on sex drive differences between men and women* That time Sarah’s boyfriend lost his attraction for her* How often do married people actually have sex?* The problem with sex statistics: Everyone lies* Could extramarital sex be a marital aid?* Why is Nancy glowing?* New Depp-Heard docu-series is like a greatest-hits record of a six-month trial* Nerds + fandom in one bang-up (and short) documentary* Tell us why we should do a live show in your town!

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comOur guest today is the remarkable Jennifer Senior, who won the 2022 Pulitzer for Feature Writing for her Atlantic essay “What Bobby McIlvane Left Behind,” written on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. She’s been a book critic and columnist for the NYT, a staff writer for New York magazine, and her book All Joy and No Fun: The Paradox of Modern Parenthood, spent eight weeks on The New York Times Best Seller list. She talks with Sarah and Nancy about her past work and her moving recent Atlantic essay about an aunt who was institutionalized, “The Ones We Sent Away.”* What does a Pulitzer look like, anyway?* When NYT wanted Jennifer to be “the Terry Gross of the op-ed section”* The importance of writing without judging your subjects* The “yearning and searching” part of grief* “We are always inventing and reinventing the dead” * The aunt Jennifer didn’t know she had * When children were sent away “for their own good”* The hell hole that was Willowbrook* Arthur Miller and psychologist Erik Erikson both had children in institutions?* The sinister tale of Rosemary Kennedy* How much power do we actually have over our children’s development?“You guys have the best podcast name,” Jen said just after taping. And the best guests! Become a paid subscriber and miss not a one

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com Up for discussion this week:* The mysterious “TMFINR” woman on the plane is found, and it turns out she was Sarah’s neighbor!* Is it wrong to reveal the identity of someone who accidentally became famous?* Florida school officials fear Romeo and Juliet may make teenagers horny* Sarah celebrates with some of Shakespeare’s dirtiest lines* Nancy was a soft-core pornographer???* A new law has Pornhub shutting down in certain states* Would you give your driver’s license information to a porn site? Neither would we.* Billie Eilish says watching porn at 11 destroyed her young mind* Could online porn ever become unfashionable like teen smoking?* An outro ode to the late Robbie RobertsonCALL FOR LETTERS! Send any burning questions to smokeempodcast@gmail.comShall I compare thee to a paid subscriber? No even better, just BECOME one

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com* Wait, Lizzo wants that dancer to eat a banana from where? We look at the lawsuit filed against Lizzo by three dancers that includes many wild details, but Sarah is suspicious of that “fat-shaming” accusation * How did Jim Larkin and Mike Lacey, two alt-journalism pioneers and heroes, get smeared by government lawyers as “child sex traffickers” and have their assets, their reputations and their freedom taken from them? We talk about the fight over Backpage.com, and the tragedy this week of Larkin’s suicide * Why alternative newsweeklies matter(ed?)* Joe Biden finally acknowledges his seventh grandchild (sigh of relief)* Nancy’s got a new nickname* Sarah’s finds a narrative podcast fix* The sweetness of the county fair (and piglet races!)Don’t forget: FIRST SUNDAY ZOOM this Sunday, August 6, 8pm ET / 5pm PT, for paid subscribers. Come hang! We’ll send out a link on the day-of.Nancy ate six zeppole at the Ulster County Fair yesterday. Become a paid subscriber and she’ll double that!

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com“They tried to bury me,” Sinead O’Connor said in the 2022 documentary about her, Nothing Compares. “They didn’t realize I was a seed.” We look back at the life and legacy of Sinead O’Connor, who died this week at the age of 56. Sinead was a firebrand onstage, but her 2021 memoir Rememberings reveals her to be funny and unpretentious and not very interested in fame. She was a protest singer cast in the role of pop star. Topics discussed:* Ghosts in the piano, writing songs to the rhythm of a rocking chair* Why do some children of abuse mourn their parents so deeply?* That time she shaved her head* A bizarre anecdote about Prince, who wrote “Nothing Compares 2 U”* How she managed to sneak the Pope moment onto “SNL”* Four children with four different fathers* Morrissey gets the last word* Pivot to Israel: What is going on? * Kevin Spacey exonerated, but huh, there’s a pattern here* Graphic novels are cool