A Productive Conversation

🚨 The Forge Your Future Challenge is back – August 7–9, 2025!Join yours truly, Mike Vardy, for this free 3-day experience to reconnect with what matters, regain control of your time, and set your future in motion. Just two hours a day for three days—no fluff, just focus. Save your spot now: https://mikevardy.com/forgeyourfutureWelcome back to our monthly series, PM Talks, featuring a conversation with my good friend Patrick Rhone. In this latest episode, our conversation that spans from our shared podcasting passion and planner geekery to deeper explorations of contentment, choice, and the essence of enough. Patrick, with his unique insights and experiences, brings a fresh perspective to the familiar topics of goal setting and minimalism, while also touching on the deeply personal aspects of happiness and mental health.Our discussion was wide-ranging, but one topic stood out prominently: Choices. This theme resonated throughout our conversation, highlighting the significant impact of intentional living and personal metrics on achieving genuine satisfaction in life.Key Discussion Points Setting and pursuing personal goals with a focus on minimalism and reducing unnecessary possessions. The concept of "enough" and its relationship to happiness and contentment, drawing on insights from Daniel Kahneman on happiness. The personal journey of writing meaningful books, both as gifts and as tools for understanding and responsibility. The use of practical tools like a highlighter/post-it combo for organization, and how these small choices reflect deeper values and intentions. Addressing mental health through self-care, understanding the power of choice, and managing emotions with intention. In wrapping up, this conversation was a deeper dive into how we define and seek happiness in our lives. Patrick's approach to living intentionally, making mindful choices, and finding contentment in "enough" offers valuable lessons for all of us. Whether it's through the planners we obsess over, the goals we set, or the way we approach our mental health, the underlying message is clear: happiness is a personal journey, influenced by our choices and actions.Links Worth Exploring A conversation between Adam Grant and Daniel Kahneman The Creative Act: A Way of Being by Rick Rubin Post-it Flag+ Highlighter The Perfectionists: How Precision Engineers Created the Modern World Inside of You: Alan Ritchson Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 📘 Grab My New Book: The Productivity Diet: A Practical Guide to Nurturing your Productive PotentialIf you’re looking to build a sustainable, personalized productivity practice that actually sticks, my latest book is for you. It’s available now—wherever books are sold. Learn more at mikevardy.com/lit or request it at your favorite local bookstore.

🚨 The Forge Your Future Challenge is back – August 7–9, 2025!Join yours truly, Mike Vardy, for this free 3-day experience to reconnect with what matters, regain control of your time, and set your future in motion. Just two hours a day for three days—no fluff, just focus. Save your spot now: https://mikevardy.com/forgeyourfutureWelcome to this episode where Haris Butt, the head of product design at ClickUp, and I dive deep into the intersection of AI and productivity. In today's discussion, we explore how artificial intelligence, specifically within tools like ClickUp, is revolutionizing the way we approach tasks, manage time, and unlock creativity. Haris shares invaluable insights into the balance between technology and human input, ensuring we harness the full potential of AI without losing the essence of personal touch in productivity.Our conversation navigates through the practical applications of AI in everyday tasks, the advancements in product design influenced by AI, and the critical role of trust and reliability in these systems. Haris's experience at ClickUp provides a unique lens on the topic, offering practical advice and thought-provoking ideas on integrating AI into our workflows to achieve efficiency and creativity.Key Discussion Points Benefits and drawbacks of using AI in productivity, with a focus on time-saving tasks. The role of AI in product design, emphasizing the importance of trust in data and systems. Distinctions between generative AI and other AI forms, exploring their impact on productivity. Overcoming the fear of AI through understanding and trust, using AI to unlock creativity. Practical uses of AI tools like ChatGPT for tasks ranging from academic research to meal planning. The concept of "life hacks" with AI, streamlining workflows, and enhancing information retrieval. The introduction of ClickUp Brain, aiming to revolutionize how new and established users engage with ClickUp for increased productivity. In closing, my discussion with Haris not only highlights the significant benefits AI brings to productivity tools but also stresses the importance of thoughtful integration to truly augment human capabilities. As we look towards the future, the potential of AI to streamline workflows, reduce friction, and free us to focus on high-value tasks is immense. Haris's insights remind us that the journey towards integrating AI into our daily lives is one of balance, trust, and continuous learning.Links Worth Exploring ClickUp Brain: Check it out Related Conversation: Episode 505: Matt Martin Talks About AI-Enhanced Productivity and Time Management Related Blog Post: What the #%$! Happened to Lifehacker? Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 📘 Grab My New Book: The Productivity Diet: A Practical Guide to Nurturing your Productive PotentialIf you’re looking to build a sustainable, personalized productivity practice that actually sticks, my latest book is for you. It’s available now—wherever books are sold. Learn more at mikevardy.com/lit or request it at your favorite local bookstore.

In this engaging discussion, Hal Elrod, author and creator of the Miracle Morning philosophy, shares his insights and resilience following his battle with cancer. He discusses the evolution of his morning routine and how it can be adapted for different lifestyles, including night owls. Hal emphasizes the importance of unwavering faith and extraordinary effort in achieving goals. He also offers practical strategies for personal growth, showcasing how a tailored morning routine can transform one’s perspective on life.

🚨 The Forge Your Future Challenge is back – August 7–9, 2025!Join yours truly, Mike Vardy, for this free 3-day experience to reconnect with what matters, regain control of your time, and set your future in motion. Just two hours a day for three days—no fluff, just focus. Save your spot now: https://mikevardy.com/forgeyourfutureIn episode 511, I'm thrilled to welcome Francesco D’Alessio, a trailblazer in the productivity app space. Our conversation revolved around his Bento methodology, the evolution of productivity software, and the future role of AI in managing our daily tasks.Francesco shared his journey in creating the Bento app, a method that has proven immensely beneficial for individuals that he didn't expect. We also delved into the critical aspects of choosing and sticking with the right productivity tools, and how these decisions can profoundly impact our efficiency and effectiveness.Key Discussion Points The development of the Bento productivity app and its unique methodology. How frameworks influence the longevity of app usage and user retention. The evolving trends in software and AI's emerging role in productivity apps. Utilizing AI tools like ChatGPT for breaking down complex tasks. The evolution of Evernote and the search for reliable productivity alternatives. Challenges in balancing app maintenance with personal responsibilities. Francesco’s insights into the world of productivity apps offer a fresh perspective on how we approach task management and efficiency. His emphasis on the right methodology, coupled with an open-minded approach to emerging tools like AI, provides invaluable guidance for anyone navigating the complex landscape of productivity software.Links Worth Exploring Connect with Francesco: X | LinkedIn | Website Check Out Keep Productive: X | YouTube The Bento Method: Check It Out The Unedited Version of This Episode: Watch on YouTube Related Conversation: Episode 278: Keeping Productive with Francesco D’Alessio Related Blog Post: What to Look for in Your First Task Management App Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 📘 Grab My New Book: The Productivity Diet: A Practical Guide to Nurturing your Productive PotentialIf you’re looking to build a sustainable, personalized productivity practice that actually sticks, my latest book is for you. It’s available now—wherever books are sold. Learn more at mikevardy.com/lit or request it at your favorite local bookstore.

🚨 The Forge Your Future Challenge is back – August 7–9, 2025!Join yours truly, Mike Vardy, for this free 3-day experience to reconnect with what matters, regain control of your time, and set your future in motion. Just two hours a day for three days—no fluff, just focus. Save your spot now: https://mikevardy.com/forgeyourfutureWelcome to Episode 510 of our podcast, where I had the pleasure of hosting Ben Kirk, an expert in productivity coaching. In this enlightening conversation, we delved deep into the intricacies of developing effective habits, managing time efficiently, and overcoming common productivity hurdles.Ben shared his unique insights on the importance of self-discipline, consistency, and accountability in achieving personal and professional goals. We also explored various aspects of productivity, including weekly reviews, misconceptions in self-help, and the significance of understanding one's circadian rhythms for optimal performance.Key Discussion Points Ben's philosophy on productivity, focusing on self-discipline, consistency, and accountability. Challenges posed by the constant influx of new productivity tools and apps. Customized approaches to productivity and the importance of starting with small, manageable habits. The role of weekly reviews in reflecting on progress and sustaining productivity. Misconceptions in productivity and self-help, and the necessity of a consistent lifestyle approach. Building effective routines without overengineering them, and the distinction between habits and routines. The journey of becoming an early riser and managing circadian rhythms for improved productivity. This episode with Ben Kirk was not just about productivity tips; it was a deep dive into rethinking how we approach our daily routines and work habits. Ben's emphasis on tailored strategies, coupled with his insights on weekly reviews and the significance of understanding our natural rhythms, provides valuable guidance for anyone looking to enhance their productivity and overall quality of life.Links Worth Exploring Connect with Ben: LinkedIn | Website Check out Ben's offer to A Productive Conversation listeners: Click Here Related Conversation: Episode 75: Steve Kamb Related Blog Post: The Productivity Diet: Balancing Quality and Quantity for Lasting Productivity Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 📘 Grab My New Book: The Productivity Diet: A Practical Guide to Nurturing your Productive PotentialIf you’re looking to build a sustainable, personalized productivity practice that actually sticks, my latest book is for you. It’s available now—wherever books are sold. Learn more at mikevardy.com/lit or request it at your favorite local bookstore.

🚨 The Forge Your Future Challenge is back – August 7–9, 2025!Join yours truly, Mike Vardy, for this free 3-day experience to reconnect with what matters, regain control of your time, and set your future in motion. Just two hours a day for three days—no fluff, just focus. Save your spot now: https://mikevardy.com/forgeyourfutureWelcome to the inaugural episode of our monthly series, "PM Talks," where my good friend Patrick Rhone and I delve into a myriad of topics, each leading to incredibly productive and insightful conversations. This time around we're (mostly) kicking things off with a subject that's near and dear to both of us: the world of paper planners.In this episode, Patrick and I share our love and experiences with various paper planners. We discuss everything from the classic Midori Traveler's Notebook to the Hobonichi Techo, exploring how these tools not only help us stay organized but also play a vital role in our mindfulness and productivity. Whether you're a planner enthusiast or just getting started, this conversation is packed with valuable insights and personal stories.Key Discussion Points Exploring the effectiveness of simplicity over complexity in achieving goals and making clear decisions. The importance of sequencing tasks and addressing critical issues first to prevent burnout. Utilizing storytelling to illustrate complex business problems and the power of productive relationships. Discussing the dynamic nature of balance and the possibility of finding fulfilling work with the right mindset. The shift in younger generations' approach to career success and the quest for personal fulfillment. Emphasizing the need for balance and a clear perspective in both life and work. To wrap up our first episode in this "PM Talks" series I must say that it's always a pleasure chatting with Patrick. Our conversations never fail to be enlightening and thought-provoking, making each episode a journey of discovery in productivity and beyond. So, tune in, take notes, and join us in this exciting new series where talking and listening lead to truly productive outcomes.Links Worth Exploring Midori Traveler's Notebook Hobonichi Techo Frictionless Cards (RIP) "Same as Ever" MUJI Chronotebook (RIP) EVO "Slice" Planner Dash/Plus Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 📘 Grab My New Book: The Productivity Diet: A Practical Guide to Nurturing your Productive PotentialIf you’re looking to build a sustainable, personalized productivity practice that actually sticks, my latest book is for you. It’s available now—wherever books are sold. Learn more at mikevardy.com/lit or request it at your favorite local bookstore.

🚨 The Forge Your Future Challenge is back – August 7–9, 2025!Join yours truly, Mike Vardy, for this free 3-day experience to reconnect with what matters, regain control of your time, and set your future in motion. Just two hours a day for three days—no fluff, just focus. Save your spot now: https://mikevardy.com/forgeyourfutureIn this insightful episode, I sat down with Jim Vaselopulos, the author of "Clarity: Business Wisdom to Work Less and Achieve More." Jim shared his profound insights on achieving clarity, focus, and productivity in both our personal and professional lives. His book offers invaluable guidance for anyone looking to streamline their decision-making and prioritize effectively in a world brimming with information.Our conversation ranged from the power of simplicity in decision-making to finding balance and clarity in the midst of life's constant changes. Jim's approach to tackling these challenges is both practical and thought-provoking, providing listeners with strategies to navigate the complexities of the modern world.Key Discussion Points Exploring the effectiveness of simplicity over complexity in achieving goals and making clear decisions. The importance of sequencing tasks and addressing critical issues first to prevent burnout. Utilizing storytelling to illustrate complex business problems and the power of productive relationships. Discussing the dynamic nature of balance and the possibility of finding fulfilling work with the right mindset. The shift in younger generations' approach to career success and the quest for personal fulfillment. Emphasizing the need for balance and a clear perspective in both life and work. This discussion with Jim Vaselopulos was not just enlightening but also deeply motivating. His insights into finding clarity and balance in our rapidly evolving world resonate with anyone striving to achieve success without sacrificing personal fulfillment. Jim's concept of 'meraki,' putting one's heart and soul into their work, is a powerful reminder of the passion and energy needed to succeed in both business and life.Links Worth Exploring Connect with Jim: X | LinkedIn | Website Get The Book: Clarity: Business Wisdom to Work Less and Achieve More Listen to Jim's Podcast: The Leadership Podcast Related Conversation: Episode 346: Fostering Clarity with Doug Fraser Related Blog Post: Why You Need A Clarity Day (And How To Make It Happen) Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 📘 Grab My New Book: The Productivity Diet: A Practical Guide to Nurturing your Productive PotentialIf you’re looking to build a sustainable, personalized productivity practice that actually sticks, my latest book is for you. It’s available now—wherever books are sold. Learn more at mikevardy.com/lit or request it at your favorite local bookstore.

🚨 The Forge Your Future Challenge is back – August 7–9, 2025!Join yours truly, Mike Vardy, for this free 3-day experience to reconnect with what matters, regain control of your time, and set your future in motion. Just two hours a day for three days—no fluff, just focus. Save your spot now: https://mikevardy.com/forgeyourfutureIn this enlightening episode originally broadcast in December 2017, I had the opportunity to chat with Angela Crocker, an expert in digital decluttering and organization. Angela joined me to discuss her new book and shared her valuable insights on how to manage our increasingly digital lives efficiently. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone struggling with digital clutter and seeking practical solutions.Angela's approach to digital decluttering is both innovative and practical. From app organization to calendar management, Angela provides actionable tips that can transform the way we interact with our digital tools. Her strategies not only promote efficiency but also contribute to a stress-free digital environment.Key Discussion Points Angela shares strategies for purging data and creating an organized digital home. We discuss the importance of conducting an "app diet" to simplify app usage and enhance efficiency. Strategies for categorizing apps, decluttering calendars, and managing commitments. Tips on reducing digital stress by consolidating various calendars into a single platform. Approaches to dedicating devices to specific activities and the benefits of forced discipline in device selection. Discussing the separation of personal and professional communications and managing email clutter. My conversation with Angela Crocker on this episode was truly a deep dive into the world of digital decluttering. Her practical tips and strategies are not just theoretical but are proven ways to manage digital overload. Angela's book, "Declutter Your Data", is an essential read for anyone looking to bring order and efficiency to their digital life. Remember, in our increasingly digital world, staying organized isn't just about cleanliness; it's about sanity.Links Worth Exploring Connect with Angela: X | Instagram | Facebook Get The Book: Declutter Your Data: Take Charge of Your Data and Organize Your Digital Life Related Conversation: Episode 176: Declutter Your Data with Angela Crocker Related Blog Post: A Simple Way to Keep Your Email Inbox Under Control Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 📘 Grab My New Book: The Productivity Diet: A Practical Guide to Nurturing your Productive PotentialIf you’re looking to build a sustainable, personalized productivity practice that actually sticks, my latest book is for you. It’s available now—wherever books are sold. Learn more at mikevardy.com/lit or request it at your favorite local bookstore.

🚨 The Forge Your Future Challenge is back – August 7–9, 2025!Join yours truly, Mike Vardy, for this free 3-day experience to reconnect with what matters, regain control of your time, and set your future in motion. Just two hours a day for three days—no fluff, just focus. Save your spot now: https://mikevardy.com/forgeyourfutureWelcome to our latest episode, where I had the pleasure of conversing with Justin Chen, co-founder of PickFu. Our discussion delved into the intricacies of consumer insights, the entrepreneurial journey, and the pivotal role of feedback in shaping business success. Justin shared his experiences and insights, offering valuable lessons for entrepreneurs and business enthusiasts alike.In this episode, we explore the importance of seeking feedback, the challenges of cognitive biases, and the innovative ways to leverage tools like PickFu for informed decision-making. Join us as we uncover the subtle art of balancing creativity with practical consumer insights, and learn how to navigate the entrepreneurial path with a feedback-driven mindset.Key Discussion Points Justin talks about PickFu's role in collecting consumer feedback efficiently, avoiding biases in product development. The criticality of seeking feedback early in the entrepreneurial journey to prevent rework and overcome emotional biases. How PickFu caters to diverse clients globally and the significance of maintaining curiosity over judgment. Discussing the limitations and biases of AI, and the necessity of human input for authenticity and resonance. The benefits and challenges of a distributed workforce, focusing on productivity and cultural diversity. Strategies for continuous improvement in remote teams, emphasizing work-life balance and organic growth. The value of platforms like PickFu for obtaining genuine opinions, and the importance of an open-minded approach to feedback. The necessity of continuous feedback collection for iterative improvement in business decisions. This conversation with Justin Chen was not only enlightening but also a reminder of the power of feedback in shaping the course of our businesses. His insights on entrepreneurship, the use of AI, and the management of remote teams provide a roadmap for anyone looking to navigate these complex yet rewarding landscapes. Remember, in the journey of entrepreneurship and business, feedback isn't just helpful; it's essential.Links Worth Exploring Connect with Justin: LinkedIn | X Learn more about PickFu: Check it out here Ted Lasso's Philosophy on Curiosity: Watch it here Related Conversation: Episode 355: Productive Conversations with Therese Huston Related Blog Post: The Obsession With Oversharing Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 📘 Grab My New Book: The Productivity Diet: A Practical Guide to Nurturing your Productive PotentialIf you’re looking to build a sustainable, personalized productivity practice that actually sticks, my latest book is for you. It’s available now—wherever books are sold. Learn more at mikevardy.com/lit or request it at your favorite local bookstore.

🚨 The Forge Your Future Challenge is back – August 7–9, 2025!Join yours truly, Mike Vardy, for this free 3-day experience to reconnect with what matters, regain control of your time, and set your future in motion. Just two hours a day for three days—no fluff, just focus. Save your spot now: https://mikevardy.com/forgeyourfutureIn Episode 505 of our podcast, we are excited to welcome Matt Martin, a visionary in the intersection of AI, productivity, and time management. Matt and I delve into the evolving landscape of AI tools and their impact on our work lives. This episode is not just about the tools themselves but also about how we can integrate them into our daily routines to enhance our efficiency and creativity.Matt Martin is the Co-Founder and CEO of Clockwise, the AI-powered time management calendar. Before Clockwise, Matt worked at RelateIQ, which was acquired by Salesforce for $390 million in 2016. Matt started Clockwise with fellow RelateIQ early employees Gary Lerhaupt and Mike Grinolds. Matt completed his undergraduate degree at Dartmouth College and law school at the University of Pennsylvania, where he graduated Magna Cum Laude.From discussing the potential of generative AI in solving productivity challenges to exploring the nuances of scheduling and time management, Matt provides valuable insights into the modern professional's toolkit. Whether you're an engineering manager feeling overwhelmed or a team leader looking to streamline your group's workflow, this conversation offers practical advice and thought-provoking perspectives.Key Discussion Points The role of AI in improving productivity and time management, and the fears surrounding its use. Integrating AI tools into workflows effectively, without letting them take over. The importance of nuance in AI-automated scheduling, especially in group settings. Combining calendars and to-do lists for effective time management and task theming. Creating routines and using AI tools to enhance productivity and focus in work environments. Utilizing AI tools like ChatGPT for creativity, idea generation, and marketing strategies. The benefits of using AI-powered tools like Clockwise for efficient meeting scheduling and organizational insights. Matt Martin's insights in this episode bring a fresh perspective to the world of AI and productivity. His emphasis on the human element in using these tools, the need for balancing automation with nuance, and the exciting possibilities for creative and efficient work practices make this episode a must-listen. For anyone looking to navigate the complexities of modern work life with the help of AI, this conversation is a treasure trove of knowledge and strategies.Links Worth Exploring Connect with Matt/Clockwise: X | LinkedIn | YouTube Clockwise: Check it out here Clockwise Raises $45M in Funds: Read the TechCrunch Article Related Conversation: Episode 93: Beating Burnout with Ben Fanning Related Blog Post: Why an “Overly Specific Calendar” Can Hold You Back Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 📘 Grab My New Book: The Productivity Diet: A Practical Guide to Nurturing your Productive PotentialIf you’re looking to build a sustainable, personalized productivity practice that actually sticks, my latest book is for you. It’s available now—wherever books are sold. Learn more at mikevardy.com/lit or request it at your favorite local bookstore.