The Illusion of Consensus

Rav Arora
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Dec 12, 2023 • 1h 11min

Episode 23: Molly Kingsley and Ben Kingsley On How Leaders Evaded Accountability, Misled The Public And Violated Democracy During The Pandemic

The Illusion of Consensus is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a paid subscriber:https://www.illusionconsensus.com/The conversation with Molly and Ben Kingsley focuses on the government's mishandling of the pandemic and its impact on children. They discuss the government's failure to prioritize children's needs in policy-making, the systematic attacks on advocacy groups, and the unethical treatment of children during school closures. The role of local districts and central government in school closure decisions is examined, as well as the influence of unions and the media blackout on dissenting voices. The conversation also delves into the role of Pharma funding and the spread of smears and misinformation. The chapter concludes with a discussion on the rollout of child vaccines and the ethical issues surrounding it. The conversation explores the themes of regulatory capture, ethics, and media suppression in the context of pandemic policies.Buy Molly Kingsley, Arabella Skinner and Ben Kingsley’s new book:https://www.amazon.co.uk/Accountability-Deficit-ministers-officials-accountability-ebook/dp/B0CNPWS79PChapters00:00 Introduction and Background01:52 Government Malfeasance and Attacks on Advocacy Groups04:05 School Closures and the Treatment of Children07:48 Role of Local Districts and Central Government in School Closure Decisions13:00 Role of Unions and Smearing Campaigns17:27 Government's Role in Censorship and Media Blackout22:12 Pharma Funding and Influence on Media28:57 Smears and Attacks on Advocates39:46 Rollout of Child Vaccines in the UK50:44 Ethical Issues and Treatment of Children52:53 Regulatory Capture58:17 Ethics and Advisory Group01:06:07 Suppression of Ethical Advice01:09:46 Media Suppression This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
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Dec 8, 2023 • 2h 32min

Episode 22: Dr. Adam Urato On Dangers Of Using Antidepressants In Pregnancy

The Illusion of Consensus is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a paid subscriber.https://www.illusionconsensus.com/Hi everyone,Welcome to a new episode of The Illusion of Consensus podcast. Today we have on OBGYN Dr. Adam Urato who discusses the impact of prenatal antidepressant exposure on the developing fetal brain. He highlights a study that shows a significant difference in brain volumes, particularly in cerebral grey matter, in children exposed to SSRIs during pregnancy. Dr. Urato emphasizes that this is not the first study to show such effects and that there is a growing body of research on the topic. He addresses the argument of confounding by indication and explains why it is not a valid critique of the literature.Follow Dr. Urato on Twitter:https://twitter.com/AdamUrato1Takeaways* Prenatal exposure to SSRIs has been shown to have significant effects on the developing fetal brain, including alterations in brain volumes and connectivity.* There is a growing body of research, including animal studies, that supports the negative impact of SSRIs on the developing brain.* Confounding by indication is often used as a critique of the literature, but it does not negate the chemical effects of SSRIs on the fetal brain.* Immediate effects of prenatal SSRI exposure include poor neonatal adaptation and behavioral changes in newborns.* Long-term consequences of prenatal SSRI exposure are still being studied, but there is evidence of potential impacts on motor skills, language acquisition, emotional regulation, and a potential link to autism and ADHD. SSRIs have been linked to adverse effects on fetal development, including an increased risk of preterm births.* There is mixed evidence regarding the connection between SSRIs and miscarriages.* Counseling for pregnant women considering SSRIs should provide accurate information about the risks, benefits, and alternatives.* The information ecosystem is corrupted by pharmaceutical industry influence, leading to a lack of transparency and misinformation.* There is a need for caution when using herbal supplements during pregnancy due to limited research and potential risks. There are many unanswered questions and mysteries surrounding the effects of different foods and diets during pregnancy.* The CDC and FDA's recommendations on COVID vaccines for pregnant women have raised concerns about the influence of the pharmaceutical industry.* Pregnant women have been portrayed as victims of misinformation when expressing concerns about vaccine safety.* We should be skeptical and informed about the risks and benefits of medications, especially during pregnancy. Synthetic chemical compounds can have consequences on fetal development and should be approached with caution.* Vitamin deficiencies, particularly vitamin D deficiency, can negatively impact obstetrical outcomes in pregnancy.* Pregnant women should focus on maintaining a healthy diet and consider taking a basic prenatal vitamin. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
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Dec 2, 2023 • 10min

Bombshell Podcast: Dr. Joseph Fraiman On Participating In Misleading, Biased Drug Research

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.illusionconsensus.comHi everyone,I just recorded a bombshell 2-hour interview with Joseph Fraiman on his experiences conducting MDMA research in mice (several years ago) and being forced to present a very specific narrative on its risks and dangers, while doing the exact opposite in a study on the pharmaceutical drug citalopram (SSRI). His story captures so much of what wen…
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Nov 29, 2023 • 1h 32min

Episode 21: Sports Writer Ethan Strauss: "You Don't Have To Be A Contrarian To Be A Heretic"

Hi everyone,Today’s podcast guest is Ethan Strauss from The House of Strauss Substack. Ethan and I met at a dinner in San Francisco in August and I was fascinated by his experiences in the sports industry world, having closely covered the Golden State Warriors NBA team during their winning streak. We had a great conversation on the podcast discussing the NBA, Ethan’s time following the GSW, leaving The Athletic due to various pressures and constraints, joining Substack, creating an independent model, and building a relationship with his readers.I hope you enjoy this more left-field, alternative conversation deviating from our focal topics. Stay tuned for Dr. Jay’s upcoming conversation with Mattias Desmet and our joint podcast with Vivek Ramaswamy on public health, FDA reform, and the pharmaceutical industry.— Rav AroraSubscribe to our Substack: https://www.illusionconsensus.com/ This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
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Nov 27, 2023 • 1h 20min

Episode 20: Dr. Reid Sheftall On Questioning The Covid Narrative

Welcome everybody to episode 20 of The Illusion of Consensus podcast.I'm here today with Dr. Reid Sheftall. Reid and I have got to know each other through the pandemic, mainly through a series of podcasts that Reid hosted. I think we recorded something like 20 to 24 hours of podcast together, where we discussed every aspect exhaustively about the science of the pandemic, how fast the disease spread, how deadly the disease was, the vaccines, etc.The striking thing about that was we had a really friendly agreement on many things and friendly disagreements on many other things. It was actually kind of like a scientific discussion or debate in many, many cases. I greatly enjoyed that. I've been looking forward to introduce him to The Illusion of Consensus audience.— Jay Bhattacharya This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
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Nov 15, 2023 • 1h 13min

Episode 18: Jeff Childers On Fighting Covid Mandates In Court

Welcome everyone to another episode of the Illusion of Consensus podcast with myself, Rav Arora, independent journalist based in Vancouver and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, an epidemiologist at Stanford.We are really excited today to have on Jeff Childers — a very successful attorney based in Florida, who's been on the front lines in court fighting cases on vaccine and mask mandates. He's done tremendous work throughout the pandemic, fighting for our personal rights and civil liberties.Jay and him have collaborated on previous legal cases, so we're excited to get into some of that. Jeff is also the author of the fantastic Coffee and COVID newsletter, which I read every week, and I highly encourage everyone else to check it out if you haven't already. It's a great read. Jeff does an excellent job there, just as he does in his legal work. So we're excited to talk about all of it.If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our Substack newsletter:https://www.illusionconsensus.com/ This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
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Nov 7, 2023 • 1h 4min

Episode 19: Natalya Murakhver On Advocating For Children's Health and Livelihood During the Pandemic

Welcome everybody to the Illusion of Consensus podcast.This is professor Jay Bhattacharya hosting this episode. I'm here with Natalya Murakhver. She is the co-founder of Restore Childhood, an organization founded originally in New York City, but now expanded all over the United States. There have been people that have been advocating for open schools, for normal childhood for children, and Natalya is one of those people. I'm absolutely delighted to have her here. She is a longtime resident of New York City and also an advocate for children long before the pandemic.I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.— Dr. Jay BhattacharyaThe Illusion of Consensus is a reader-supported publication. Support us by becoming a paid member:https://www.illusionconsensus.com/ This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
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Oct 24, 2023 • 1h 17min

Episode 17: Kevin Bardosh On Harms From Lockdowns

Welcome everyone to the Illusion of Consensus podcast.I'm Professor Jay Bhattacharya. I am delighted to be here with Kevin Bardosh. Kevin is the research director and the director of Collateral Global, which is a charity in the UK. Just full disclosure, I'm a trustee of this charity. The goal of the charity is to document the harms that the lockdowns globally from 2020 and onward. And again, with an emphasis on documenting these harms in a scholarly way with data and with rigorous analysis. I hope you take away something new from this wide-ranging conversation on the multitude of negative societal shifts causes by lockdowns.Note to readers: the full podcast transcript is available thanks to Substack’s new functionality. You can access it by clicking on the podcast tab above.— Jay BhattacharyaIf you appreciate the work we are doing here, please consider supporting us by becoming a paid subscriber:Spotify link: Apple podcast: Note: For some strange reason, Jay’s audio has an intense echo for the first 10 minutes before it goes away. Apologies in advance.Support Kevin’s organization Collateral Global:https://collateralglobal.org/article/uk-covid-inquiry-turns-its-focus-to-great-barrington-declaration/Podcast Transcript Highlights:Kevin on his background:I've worked for 15 years in public health, global public health programs, mostly in the global south, so in over 20 countries in Africa, Asia, and that's on infectious disease programs. So I was involved tangentially in the Ebola response. And during the Zika pandemic, I actually led quite a large mosquito control program in Haiti. So that's dealing with community engagement, messaging, mosquito control, and the whole sort of range of scientific questions also about, well, where are microcephaly cases happening, et cetera. I've also worked a lot on parasitic diseases, neglected tropical diseases, et cetera.And all of that work in the global public health community in general, we have these sort of ethical frameworks around not doing harm, around equity, or, you know, community empowerment, et cetera. And we saw a lot of those sort of guiding principles thrown out the window during the COVID response. And I think a lot of people felt like, or a lot of academics who work in this space, didn't feel like they had a voice, or at least were very confused about where the consensus was going. And so... my sort of work for the last two years has been to try to somewhat speak to that issue, which is obviously a very political issue. Consider supporting us:Kevin’s detailed survey on the literature on lockdowns and their effects on poor countries:The report is called, How Did the COVID-19 Pandemic Response Harm Society? A Global Evaluation and State of Knowledge Review, covering 2020 and 2021. And I think what motivated me on, well, there's a lot of things that did, but on the one hand, the public discourse and public conversation, that there is this sort of scientific consensus. And I've actually called this and I'm covering the UK COVID inquiry for an online newspaper called Unherd. And I've called this the lockdown doctrine. which is the notion that during a respiratory pandemic, you need to lock down society faster and harder as a precondition to get a vaccine and then you reopen, right? And that's a very particular model, a political model, and it comes with some very detailed assumptions about reality and also about scientific evidence that I think is very flawed. What I saw essentially is you have thousands of papers on all these different topics about the harms of non-pharmaceutical interventions during COVID. And yet we don't have a good sense of, well, how do you put those together? How do you weigh, let's say the control of COVID, which has these very neat statistics, right? Like cases, deaths, you can sort of talk. It has this sort of simplicity and elegance to it that compels people to act and think a certain way. But then when you put together all of the different harms, it's like, it's, it's almost too complicated for people to get their head around. And so when we challenge, let's say this lockdown doctrine by saying, Well, actually, when you think about trade-offs, there's a lot more harm to locking down society than there is benefit. People will say, well, how do you weigh that? And so this framework was an attempt to, in as much detail as possible, come to terms with, well, what are those harms? What's the full range of it? And what does the academic community, or the academic knowledge, tell us about these harms? So on the one hand, type, right, type of harm, but then also the magnitude. And in that regard, I would say that the report has these sort of two elements to it. On the one hand, it's a story about the actual harms that took place in the real world, but it's filtered through the academic research that is available. And in some areas, we have very concrete statistics that are easy to appreciate, but in a lot of areas, we don't.Kevin on the pandemic’s negative impact on obesity and lifestyle:I would say one of the more worrying ones — this is from a meta-analysis on obesity rates — estimating a 1% increase in children and a 2% increase in adults in global obesity rates. So that's a pretty significant increase when you think about the consequences of obesity. People became much more addicted to screens. Screen use increased by 50% among children. And those screen addiction habits have continued, right? We're living in this sort of era where if you watch kids, they're all staring at their phones and COVID encouraged them to stare at their phones longer. And I think that that's, that is going to have astronomical cultural and psychological impacts going forward. It was something that we're already struggling with as a society, but we said, okay, everyone's, you know, don't go meet your friends at the park, which was already decreasing because how many people actually go to the park and know their neighbors. And if you go to the park, you watch the parents sitting on their phones while their kids are playing. Anyhow, I could rant about that for a long time. I actually don't own a cell phone. No, because of these effects. Yeah, I kind of just got rid of it a while ago. So sleep problems, all sorts of interesting studies, actually even about dream interruption. There's actually a whole sort of niche area of COVID and dreams, which is quite interesting. Obviously, exercise decreased, and exercise has all sorts of beneficial effects for health.The Illusion of Consensus is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a paid subscriber: This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
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Oct 14, 2023 • 1h 3min

Episode 16: Dr. Azadeh Khatibi on Opposing California's Medical Censorship Bill

Hi everyone,Welcome to episode 16 of The Illusion of Consensus podcast. I'm professor Jay Bhattacharya. I'm here with Dr. Azadeh Khatibi. She is a doctor who has distinguished herself during the pandemic by engaging in this lawsuit against a law in California called AB 2098. The law passed by the California legislature last year essentially put doctors at risk of losing their license if they contradicted public health advice. In effect, they basically made it so that the doctors had to look over their shoulder and see the CDC in the room with their patients, and they had to decide if they had the patient's interest in mind or the CDC's interest in mind. I hope you enjoy this rich and engaging conversation with Dr. Khatibi. The Spotify and Apple links are available below as well as the highlighted podcast transcript. The full video podcast is also accessible to paid members here:Spotify link:Apple podcast link: Transcript Highlights:Dr. Khatibi on challenging consensus throughout her career:In my own personal life and in my professional life, I have gone against formal consensus and informal consensus. Many times. I also feel like it's because I'm using my centred mind to make these decisions. I did it for my own health. I went against informal consensus opinion when I faced death and had to make some decisions about my own healthcare. I went against the informal consensus within my hospital care system. I've done it for my family members, I've gone against formal consensus for my family members, a matter for some health issues unrelated to COVID. And it turned out fantastic because we got data and information that we would have not otherwise gotten. And understanding that those consensus opinions were people taking into account the evidence as well as fiscal considerations. And for me, I was just looking at what's the smartest thing to do for these family members slash patients.Dr. Khatibi talks about California’s bill AB 2098:So in the declaration, I wrote from the perspective of both a physician and as a patient, because AB 2098, the law says that any doctor can be found to have unprofessional conduct if they engage in disinformation or misinformation. So disinformation, their definition was, knowing something is incorrect, but telling it to the patient anyway, right? Giving them false information that you know is false. I don't disagree with that. I think it's wrong and unethical for a doctor to give false information knowingly to a patient. But their other definition was also misinformation. And so then they had the definition of misinformation in the bill. And their definition of misinformation was false information that's contradicted by contemporary consensus or something. And so I read that, I was like, this is terrible. This is horrible, right? Because all along I had been thinking differently from consensus and if I say something, they're gonna come after me. Like this is frightening and I already knew so many of my friends had been chilling their speech, playing small, being afraid, didn't wanna get fired.Dr. Bhattacharya on how the leading scientific consensus has often been false:Let's assess the track record of this consensus. Like how well did the CDC and the World Health Organization and the California Medical Association do in assessing sort of the nature of COVID, you know, the age gradient in mortality risk, the infection fatality rate, the immunity after COVID recovery, how well did it do in assessing whether the vaccine stops you from getting and spreading COVID? How well did we do in some of the most important questions about side effects of the vaccine for young men, especially with myocarditis. It seemed to me like the consensus was wrong on important topic after important topic after important topic.Dr. Khatibi on how California’s censorship bill violated the 14th Amendment:The law is so vague. And that's where the 14th Amendment right violation comes in. The law is supposed to be clear to a person of average intelligence. But we argued that this law is so mumble jumble. You can even hear that I kind of like, I'm like, well, what was the wording of the law again? It's so unclear and vague that it, and the grammar of it was also really bad. And the judge even said when he granted us the preliminary injunction, this law doesn't, the grammar of it doesn't even make sense. So that was the 14th Amendment rights violation, the right to due process, understanding that the law and making sure that it's clear that it was failed on, and that was the grounds actually upon which we won the preliminary injunction. The judge said this law is vague, it's not clear.Azadeh shares her remarkably impressive success in filmmaking and production:I got involved in a film called Window Horses with Sandra that was shortlisted for Academy Award nomination for best animated feature in 2018. That was one of 27 films that was shortlisted in that category. And I also helped produce that film and I played two voices. I was doing voiceover two characters in that film. And that was about creating intercultural, intergenerational bonds. It was about Iran. It was about love. It was about coming together, processing the past wounds. And then as I progressed in my filmmaking, I, we started a production company called Genius at Large. And so our projects are really looking at more of a human, humanity, human rights focus at this point. And so our film Sinjar was a co-production with Spain and looked at the Yazidi genocide of 2014. So ISIS came into Iraq and they invaded the city of the area of Sinjar and they killed the adults. the adult males and the older boys, and they enslaved the women and children, and they stole them and they sold them. So ISIS is very organized. They have actual slave markets.If you appreciate the work we’re doing, consider supporting our work by becoming a paid member: This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
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Oct 7, 2023 • 1h 2min

Episode 15: Gabrielle Bauer On Her New Book 'Blindsight is 2020'

Hello Illusion of Consensus readers,Today’s podcast episode features independent author Gabrielle Bauer, who wrote the excellent new book Blindsight is 2020 (Amazon link here). Jay and Gabrielle spend the hour discussing fear in the pandemic, religious communities’ response to Covid, and faux scientific consensus.Follow her on Twitter: https://twitter.com/GabrielleJBauer This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe

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