
Economics & Beyond with Rob Johnson
Rob Johnson is not your average economist, and this is not your average economics podcast. Every week, Rob talks about economic and social issues with a guest who probably wasn’t on your Econ 101 reading list, from musicians to activists to rebel economists. A podcast of The Institute for New Economic Thinking (INET).
Latest episodes

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Jan 30, 2025 • 1h 12min
Fred Block: Beyond Industrialism - Building Communities That Work for People
Fred Block, Research Professor of Sociology at UC Davis and author of The Habitation Society, discusses his vision for an economy that prioritizes community well-being over industrial models. He critiques current economic policies for fostering inequality and stagnation, suggesting a restructured investment in education and public finance. Block explores the implications of corporate influence on vital sectors and advocates for grassroots democracy to empower local communities. He emphasizes the urgent need for reforms to address growing wealth disparities and restore hope in democratic engagement.

Nov 14, 2024 • 1h 6min
Lincoln Mitchell: Fear and Fascism: How America Reached a Political Breaking Point
Lincoln Mitchell, a Political Science Professor at Columbia University, dives into the corrosive rise of fascism in the U.S. He discusses the MAGA movement's strongman leadership and scapegoating of minorities. Mitchell critiques media normalization of extremist rhetoric and emphasizes economic factors influencing voter behavior. The conversation also touches on the importance of rebuilding democratic norms and the challenges of confronting authoritarianism, while advocating for hope and proactive engagement to combat these trends.

Nov 7, 2024 • 53min
David Sirota: Money Talks - The Erosion of Democracy in the Age of Billionaire Influence
David Sirota joins Rob Johnson to examine the history and impact of money in U.S. politics, as explored in Sirota’s investigative podcast series, "Master Plan." Sirota discusses how a series of judicial rulings and policy changes since the 1970s enabled a system in which the voices of wealthy elites overshadow those of ordinary citizens.

Oct 21, 2024 • 60min
Marjorie Kelly: The Other Dangerous Supremacy - Wealth Supremacy
Author and Distinguished Senior Fellow of the Democracy Collaborative, Marjorie Kelly, talks about her recently released book, Wealth Supremacy: How the Extractive Economy and the Biased Rules of Capitalism Drive Today’s Crises (Berrett-Kohler, September 2023), which also outlines a vision for democratizing the economy so that it serves the broader public good.

Oct 10, 2024 • 1h 3min
Steven Herrmann: America’s Shaman-Poets’ Vision for a Better Future
Rob Johnson and Steven Herrmann, an author and Jungian analyst, discuss the concept of "spiritual democracy" as explored in Herrmann's work and the writings of American poets like Walt Whitman, Herman Melville, and Emily Dickinson and how their vision might inform a renewal of American democracy.

Aug 6, 2024 • 1h 9min
America’s Burning
What happened to the American dream? Rob talks with David Smick about his new film and the inspiration for the project.

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May 16, 2024 • 1h 3min
Leah Hunt-Hendrix and Astra Taylor - Solidarity: A World-Changing Idea
Leah Hunt-Hendrix and Astra Taylor discuss solidarity as a key concept in addressing economic inequality, climate change, and democracy. They emphasize collective action, social movements, and the role of education and the arts in fostering community.

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Nov 2, 2023 • 41min
Rohinton Medhora: One Earth, One Family, One Future
Rohinton Medhora (INET's Board Chair, member of our Commission on Global Economic Transformation, and Distinguished Fellow at CIGI) discusses global social healing, India and the G20 with INET President Rob Johnson.

Oct 26, 2023 • 44min
Adair Turner: India’s Leadership and Global Challenges of Climate and Finance
If we're going to address environmental catastrophe, we need to support each other on a global scale. Rob Johnson checks in with Adair Turner about his work, and practical solutions to address the climate crisis.

Oct 19, 2023 • 1h 8min
Angus Deaton: An Immigrant Economist Explores the Land of Inequality
Economics Nobel laureate Sir Angus Deaton discusses his latest book, Economics in America, which takes an autobiographical approach to how the field of economics addresses the most pressing issues of our time—from poverty, retirement, and the minimum wage to the ravages of the nation’s uniquely disastrous health care system.
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