
Economics & Beyond with Rob Johnson
Rob Johnson is not your average economist, and this is not your average economics podcast. Every week, Rob talks about economic and social issues with a guest who probably wasn’t on your Econ 101 reading list, from musicians to activists to rebel economists. A podcast of The Institute for New Economic Thinking (INET).
Latest episodes

Oct 12, 2023 • 51min
Michael Spence: A Plan to Fix a Fractured World
Mike Spence talks with Rob Johnson about his upcoming co-authored book "Permacrisis", India and the G20, and bringing the world together to address our shared challenges.
Book: "Permacrisis: A Plan to Fix a Fractured World" https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/bo...
Do you feel like we’re in a permacrisis? Chances are you feel some anxiety about the state of the world. Gordon Brown, Mohamed A. El-Erian, and Michael Spence certainly did. Three of the most internationally respected and experienced thinkers of our time, these friends found their pandemic Zooms increasingly focused on a cascade of crises: sputtering growth, surging inflation, poor policy responses, an escalating climate emergency, worsening inequality, increasing nationalism, and a decline in global co-operation.

Sep 28, 2023 • 59min
Alan Blinder: Looking Back and Looking Ahead: 15 Years After the Lehman Collapse
Former Fed vice chair and Princeton University economics professor Alan Blinder takes a close look at what lessons still remain to be learned in the aftermath of the Great Financial Crisis.

Sep 13, 2023 • 55min
Thomas Ferguson: The Lehman Disaster and Why It Matters Today
On September 15, 2008, Lehman Brothers, a giant investment bank with a storied history, filed for bankruptcy. The shock was profound; world markets melted down.
Over the next few days, one financial behemoth after another, including American International Group (AIG), Washington Mutual, and Wachovia collapsed. The crown jewels of Wall Street – Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs – slid toward the abyss. The Federal Reserve, the Treasury, and other regulators were forced to step in, sometimes in conjunction with famous private investors, to rescue the system. The government in effect nationalized AIG and, after two cliffhanging votes in Congress, it directly injected capital into leading private banks.
Ever since then, debates have raged about why the authorities – the Fed and the Treasury -- allowed Lehman to go broke, after earlier helping to salvage a series of other institutions.
In this Podcast, INET President Robert Johnson and INET Research Director Thomas Ferguson review those dramatic events. They also draw disquieting parallels between the Lehman debacle and more recent episodes of financial deregulation, including recent controversies over crypto and private equity.

Jul 18, 2023 • 1h
Christian Madsbjerg: How to Pay Attention in a Turbulent Distracted World
Philosopher Christian Madsbjerg discusses the importance of paying attention in a distracted world. Topics include observing the world through Gestalt psychology, different levels of attention for pattern recognition, navigating change and complexity through observation, and the impact of 'The Peregrine' book on observational techniques. The conversation also explores empathy, intergenerational learning, and youth education initiatives.

Jun 8, 2023 • 1h 21min
Steven Herrmann: The Shaman’s Call and Finding Your Inner Voice
Steven Herrmann, Jungian psychoanalyst and author of the books, William James and C. G. Jung and of William Everson: The Shaman’s Call, among others, engages in a wide-ranging conversation about finding one's calling, the poet William Everson, and the importance of dreams.
Referenced during the podcast: Robinson Jeffers on Moral Beauty, the Interconnectedness of the Universe, and the Key to Peace of Mind by Maria Popova

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May 16, 2023 • 54min
Simon Johnson: Our Thousand-Year Struggle over Technology and Prosperity
Simon Johnson, the co-author of the just-released book Power and Progress (co-authored with Daron Acemoglu), discusses the book, what new technologies hold in store for us, and how societies might better manage and govern them.

Apr 27, 2023 • 59min
Brendan Ballou: Plunder - Private Equity’s Plan to Pillage America
Brendan Ballou, talks to Rob about his forthcoming book, Plunder, about the growing harmful role of private equity in the US. Ballou is a federal prosecutor and served as Special Counsel for Private Equity in the Justice Department's Antitrust Division.

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Mar 16, 2023 • 49min
Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway: The Big Myth of Market Fundamentalism
Historians Naomi Oreskes (Harvard University) and Erik Conway (Caltech) talk to Rob about their just-released book, The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market.

Feb 23, 2023 • 1h 2min
Jim Chanos: The Golden Age of Fraud in Finance
Jim Chanos, the president and founder of Kynikos Associates and well-known investment manager talks to Rob about the post-pandemic financial system, which has become more steeped in a casino culture than it has been in a very long time, and whether China's financial situation serves as an example or as a warning.

Feb 16, 2023 • 40min
Survival of the Richest
Oxfam's Economic Justice Director, Nabil Ahmed, and Oxfam International's Inequality Policy & Advocacy Lead, Max Lawson, discuss their latest Global Inequality Report, which highlights the accelerating pace at which the world's billionaires have increased their wealth exponentially in recent years. They also discuss the ways in which governments can reverse this trend through taxation.
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