Afrobility: Africa Tech and Business

Olumide Ogunsanwo and Bankole Makanju
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Jan 19, 2023 • 1h 53min

#60: M-Kopa - How the asset financing platform is providing access to consumer products across Kenya & Africa

Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about M-Kopa, the African asset financing platform. We’ll explore the M-Kopa story across 5 areas: African electrical power context M-Kopa's early history Product & monetization strategy Competitive positioning & exit options Then we'll end with our views on its overall outlook. This episode was recorded on Jan 15, 2023 Companies discussed: M-Kopa, Safaricom (M-Pesa), d.light, Zola Electric, Transsion, Samsung, Nokia (HMD global), Airtel, MTN,  Mobisol, Carbon & Fairmoney Business concepts discussed: Rural electrification, Payment infrastructure, Pay-as-you-go Solar, Off-grid energy, asset financing, credit scoring, risk assessment & renewable energy Conversation highlights: (05:45) - Africa electricity access context (09:45) - Kenya electricity access context (14:55) - M-Kopa early history (16:55 ) - Founders’ background (25:07) - Other ideas before M-Kopa and M-Kopa launch (28:44) - Launch strategy - partnerships, sales and distribution (32:05) - Fundraising, Growth, Geo Expansion, Team (54:01) - Product strategy and how the product works (1:06:04) - Monetization strategy (1:14:16) - Competition and options for exit (01:29:50) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:38:06) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:48:08) - Recommendations and small wins Olumide’s recommendations & small wins: Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com Recommendation 1: Descript: We use it for afrobility and even though I didn't initially think we needed it, it's grown on me. Especially now that I'm using it more aggressively for my personal finance book (myfiredom.com) editing Recommendation 2: Dances with wolves movie. So so good! Small win 1: Hung out with mum during thanksgiving break. It was cool! Small win 2: New years day with friends in London. It was nice! Bankole’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: Building an AI Chatbot off Podcast Transcripts Small win: Happy to be back home after months of travelling in Nigeria, Kenya, South Africa Other content: M-Kopa Solar Is Making a Profit on Poor Africans Listeners: We’d love to hear from you. Email info@afrobility.com with feedback! Founders & Operators: We'd love to hear about what you're working on, email us at info@afrobility.com Investors: It would be great to link up with you. Contact us at info@afrobility.com Join our insider mailing list where we get feedback on new episodes & find all episodes on Afrobility.com
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Dec 18, 2022 • 2h 28min

#59: Africa Tech - 2023 & Beyond (Creator Roundtable #2)

Overview: Today, we’re going to have a creator roundtable to discuss the African tech ecosystem. We’ll discuss the biggest 2022 moments in Africa Tech & our hopes for the tech ecosystem in 2023. This episode was recorded on Dec 10, 2022 Companies discussed: Flutterwave, FTX, 54gene, Swvl, Chipper Cash, TeamApt (Moniepoint), QED, Binance, Remitly, Brimore, Shoprite, & Jumia Business concepts discussed: Economic recessions, fundraising, bootstrapping, Cryptocurrency, M&A, Creator monetization & Pan-African Expansion Conversation highlights: (07:35) - Biggest 2022 moments   (00:53) - Impact of Recession on Africa Tech (1:00:05) - What we would like to see in 2023 (1:28:00) - Creator Q&A (2:00:24) - Recommendations & Small Wins Olumide: Recommendation: Knives Out 2 (Movie). Excellent and funny sequel :) Win: Opened Fidelity HSA. I had used Vanguard only previously. Fidelity has nice functionality & UX (especially for HSAs) Bankole: Recommendation: Unauthorized Shein boutiques are popping up across Mexico & Co-founding considered harmful Win: Seeing Emeka in person Emeka: Recommendation: Magical Text Expander (tool), Friction (article), Afridigest (newsletter) Win: Finally meeting & taking a picture with the Oga of Ogas, Bankole. Plus: Afridigest crossing 4500 page followers on LinkedIn — help us on the push to 5000! Other content: Why super apps are proliferating across emerging markets, The hierarchy of venture opportunities in emerging markets Justin: Recommendation: ChatGPT & the Dissect podcast Small win: My alma mater the University of Michigan beating our rivals Ohio State in football for the second year in a row. Getting to spend a lot of in-person quality time with people in the African tech ecosystem over the past few weeks in Cape Town Samora: Recommendation: “Founders Podcast” by David Senra & Michael Jordan The Life - by Roland Lazenby Big Win - Getting my 2nd born daughter Other content: Amp it Up by Frank Slootman is a great read - Narco Saints on Netflix is superb! Listeners: We’d love to hear from you. Email info@afrobility.com with feedback! Founders & Operators: We'd love to hear about what you're working on, email us at info@afrobility.com Investors: It would be great to link up with you. Contact us at info@afrobility.com
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Nov 3, 2022 • 2h 31min

#58: Reliance Health - How the HealthTech platform is providing insurance & health services across Nigeria & Africa

Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Reliance Health, the African HealthTech company - we’ll explore the Reliance Health story across the following areas: African health context Reliance Health's early history Product & monetization strategy Competitive positioning & potential exit Overall outlook This episode was recorded on October 30, 2022 Companies discussed: Reliance Health, Y Combinator (YC), Hygeia HMO, CribMD, AXA Mansard, RedCare & BIMA Health Business concepts discussed: Insurance monetization, Insurance partnerships, consumer distribution, telco partnerships, product development, consumer market penetration & pricing strategy Conversation highlights: (01:00) - Intro and why we’re talking about Reliance Health (06:12) - Context of Africa and Nigeria’s healthcare (13:03) - Reliance Health Founding + Early History (39:25) - Fundraising & Geo expansion (52:16) - Product strategy and monetization (1:36:00) - Competition and options for exit (1:45:57) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:59:57) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook (2:14:17) - Recommendation and small wins Olumide’s recommendations & small wins: Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com Recommendation: Kinky Boots: Musical show in NYC. It was incredible! Recommendation: Paying for Status: Talks about loyalty strategy. Reward programs + finance + customer loyalty strategy article. I love it. Recommendation: The Man Who Solved the Market: How Jim Simons Launched the Quant Revolution (by Gregory Zuckerman) Small win: Finishing Included VC fellowship. It was incredible especially meeting everyone in Included VC live in Barcelona la Bankole’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: Podcast: Sandy Kemper of C2FO on Fintech One-on-One & Podcast: Invest Like The Best with Karen Karniol-Tambour Small win: Getting ready for upcoming travel Other content: Podcast: Femi Kuti on Aid Evolved Listeners: We’d love to hear from you. Email info@afrobility.com with feedback! Founders & Operators: We'd love to hear about what you're working on, email us at info@afrobility.com Investors: It would be great to link up with you. Contact us at info@afrobility.com
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Oct 26, 2022 • 2h 7min

#57: African InsurTech - How consumer insurance platforms are providing insurance across Africa

Overview:  Today we’re going to talk about African Insurtech. We’ll discuss the consumer insurance landscape & analyze InsurTech players. This episode was recorded on October 17, 2022 Companies discussed: Reliance Health, BIMA, Naked Insurance, Pineapple Insurance, Amenli, Creditas, Minutos Seguros, Acko, Policy Bazaar, Casava Insurance, Lami, Curacel, Turaco, Amanleek & Avidea Business concepts discussed: New product development, consumer market penetration & pricing strategy Conversation highlights: (01:20) Consumer InsurTech context (12:30) Insurtech in other emerging markets - India (23:40) Insurtech in other emerging markets - Brazil (34:50) Insurance context in Africa (47:17 ) Southern Africa startups (1:02:20) Western Africa startups (1:14:19) Eastern Africa startups (1:24:34) Northern Africa startups (1:31:42) Olumide’s & Bankole’s thoughts (1:55:05) Recommendations & small wins Olumide: Interested in investing in Africa Tech : Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me Recommendations: Miracle morning (Hal Elrod), 5AM club (Robin Sharma), How I found freedom in an unfree world (Harry Browne) & Early retirement extreme (Jacob Lund Fisker) 3 songs: Burna Boy - For My Hand (ft Ed Sheeran), Black Sherif - Second Sermon (Remix ft Burna Boy) & Craig David - I know you (ft Bastille) - Shoutout to my friend Jason Mothersill Small win: House party with friends Bankole: Recommendation: Ku Lo Sa - Oxlade, HBO - House of Dragons & Facebook Love - Jaywon / Essence  Small win: Africa Tech Mixer in New York Other content: Baobab Network report on InsurTech & Standard Bank report All episodes at afrobility.com
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Sep 30, 2022 • 1h 49min

#56: Thrive Agric - How the Agriculture platform evolved from crowdfunding to supporting smallholder farmers across Nigeria & Africa

Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Thrive Agric, the Nigerian Agricultural technology company - we’ll explore Thrive Agric's story across 5 areas: First we'll start with some context about African agriculture Thrive Agric's launch & early history Product & monetization strategy Competitive positioning & potential exit options Overall outlook This episode was recorded on September 25 2022 Companies discussed: Thrive Agric, Apollo Agriculture & FarmCrowdy Business concepts discussed: Agricultural Technology (AgriTech or AgTech), smallholder farmers acquisition strategy, Agriculture financing, Crowdfunding, Agriculture value and supply chains & Debt financing Conversation highlights: (10:41) - Africa Agriculture context (19:38) -  Nigeria Agriculture context  (26:14) - Nigeria crowdfunding backgroun (32:30) - Founders’ background and launch story (46:48) - Fundraising (55:47) - Product and monetization strategy, (1:09:15) - Competition & options for exit (1:19:20) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:24:45) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:32:25) - Recommendations and small wins Olumide’s recommendations & small wins: Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com Recommendation: Jim Rohn - How to change your life video - Incredible. He just drops non-stop knowledge bombs. Remarkable Recommendation: Toucan chrome extension to learn languages Small win: Exercise of writing 50 goals. Brought up a lot of interesting ideas. Shout to Alan Donegan for facilitating this Other content: A Thrive Agric Story. One Farmer at a Time. Bankole’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: AI And The Limits Of Language, Lindy Hacker News &  Lying For Money Small win: Strength workouts Other content: Asake - Mr Money with the vibe, ThriveAgricPR - product overview, Leadway Insurance response on Twitter, SEC Nigeria rules on Crowdfunding,  Invest Like The Best - Jeff Jordan & Kevin Systrom on Lex Fridman All episodes on Afrobility.com
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Aug 28, 2022 • 2h

#55: Apollo Agriculture - How the AgriTech platform is supporting smallholder farmers to scale across Kenya & Africa

Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Apollo Agriculture, the Kenyan AgTech company - we’ll explore the Apollo story across the following areas African agriculture context Apollo's launch & early history Product & monetization strategy Competitive positioning & exit options Overall outlook This episode was recorded on Aug 21, 2022 Companies discussed: Apollo Agriculture, The Climate Corporation (WeatherBill), Pula, FarmDrive, Monsanto, FairMoney & Kuda Bank Business concepts discussed: Agricultural Technology (AgriTech or AgTech), smallholder farmers, Risk mitigation, Debt funding, Customer acquisition costs (CAC) & Customer lifetime value (LTV, CLV) Conversation highlights: (06:10) - Agriculture context in Africa (21:00) - Context on Agriculture in Kenya (27:33) - Apollo founding story and founder background (40:55) - Fundraising and growth (55:14) - Product and monetization strategy (1:17:58) - Competition and exit options (1:27:53) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:34:50) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:49:36) - Recommendations and small wins Olumide’s recommendations & small wins: Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com Recommendation: Little Ways The World Works: Article by Morgan Housel. Great article talking about how learning from different fields is very helpful. He goes over learnings from evolution, astronomy, biology, anatomy, etc Recommendation: University of Berkshire Hathaway: Auto recommended by Kindle. Great. Chronicles 30 years of Berkshire Hathaway Annual meeting discussions Small win: Beach gathering with friends, it was fun Small win: Just got back from NYC 30 minutes before recording this episode, a lot of fun Bankole’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: Soul In The Game - Vitaly Katsenelson && Asake - Terminator &&  For My Hand - Burna Boy and Ed Sheeran Small win: Beat my previous Readwise streak of 190 days! Other content: CIA Factbook on Kenya, FAOStat Food production, Interdependence and modularity - Christensen institute ,  All I Want To Know Is Where I'm Going To Die So I'll Never Go There: Buffett & Munger – A Study in Simplicity and Uncommon, Common Sense Investors, Operators, Entrepreneurs - We’d love to hear from you. Please email info@afrobility.com to share feedback
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Jul 22, 2022 • 2h 1min

#54: Swvl - How the bus mobility platform became one of the largest transportation companies in Africa

Overview:  Today, we’re going to talk about Swvl, the Egyptian and Dubai based mobility platform. We’ll explore the Swvl story across 5 areas: Egypt transportation context Swvl's early history Product & monetization strategy Swvl's SPAC public offering Overall outlook. This episode was recorded on July 17, 2022 Companies discussed: Swvl, Careem, Uber, Treepz & Rocket Internet Business concepts discussed: Mobility strategy, Ridesharing, Bus sharing, Public transportation, infrastructure dependencies, IPOs & Special Purpose Acquisition Companies (SPACs) Conversation highlights: (01:00) - Intro and why we’re discussing this topic (06:15) - Context on Egypt and Africa ridesharing (13:50) - Founders’ background and Swvl founding (25:22) - Fundraising and geographical expansion (31:15) - Expansion strategy and acquisitions (38:12) - Product and monetization strategy (59:16) - Competition and SPAC (1:16:55) -  Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:30:15) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:44:35) - Recommendations and small wins Olumide’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation:  The Power Law book - About the history of venture capital Recommendation: Nas - One Mic Small win: Upgraded RAM in my old laptop, I haven't done that in a while. It feels awesome to do something mechanical like that Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com Bankole’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: What Does A Batsman See & Matter - Reading App & Build by Tony Fadell Small win: Started taking long walks again. No music, just walks over an hour Other content: More Money Than God - Sebastian Mallaby & Dial 911 and Wall Street answers - NY Times Listeners: We’d love to hear from you. Email info@afrobility.com with feedback! Founders & Operators: We'd love to hear about what you're working on, email us at info@afrobility.com Investors: It would be great to link up with you. Contact us at info@afrobility.com
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Jul 8, 2022 • 2h 2min

#53: Konga - How the Ecommerce platform initially grew and eventually reset across Nigeria

Overview: Today, we discuss Konga, the Nigerian e-commerce company. We’ll explore the Konga story across 5 areas: We'll give some context about the Nigerian e-commerce sector Konga's early history Product & Monetization strategy Konga sale Overall outlook This episode was recorded on July 3, 2022 Companies discussed: Konga, Jumia, Naspers, Kinnevik, Jiji, OLX, Amazon, Takealot, Yudala & Zinox Business concepts discussed: Ecommerce, marketplaces, classifieds, fundraising strategy, Blitzscaling risks, market readiness & Africa expansion Conversation highlights: (01:13) - Konga background and why we’re talking about it (09:19) - Nigeria background and context (14:00) - Nigeria commerce  context c. 2012 (17:00) - Background on Sim Shagaya (29:02) - Konga launch strategy and fundraising (45:55) - Konga monetization (50:51) - Competition with Jumia (1:04:35) - Konga’s business lines (1:08:10) - Konga’s declining fortunes and sale to Zinox (1:27:00) - Lessons for startups from Konga (1:39:28) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:53:57) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:57:34) - Recommendations and small wins Olumide’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: Eboys - Book about the history of Benchmark Recommendation: Different kinds of smart (Morgan housel blog post). Article so good that I subscribed to his entire blog Small win: Listening to 20MinVC episode with Fabrice Grinda (OLX founder) the day after I published Afrobility OLX episode Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com Bankole’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: Business Breakdowns Podcast - Amazon Aggregators Small win: in-person meetings with friends at work Other content: Chinese E-Commerce to Surpass 50% of Total Retail Sales | BoF - link Listeners, Operators & Investors: Email info@afrobility.com, we’d love to partner or get your feedback. All episodes on Afrobility.com
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Jun 14, 2022 • 1h 50min

#52: OLX Africa - How the Classifieds platform initially grew and eventually shut down across Africa

Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about OLX -  the classifieds & marketplace platform. We’ll explore the OLX Africa story across 4 areas: OLX's early history OLX's growth in other emerging markets OLX Africa's early history & Naspers acquisition Naspers OLX exit from Africa This episode was recorded on June 5, 2022. Companies discussed: OLX, Jiji, Craigslist, Konga, Naspers, Kalahariads, Dealfish, Pricecheck, Mocality & Tradestable Business concepts discussed: Classifieds platforms, classifieds monetization, M&A strategy, e-commerce, social commerce, lift and shift business models & international expansion Conversation highlights: (01:30) - OLX context (06:30) - How classifieds work (12:00) - OLX founding and early history (26:03) - OLX entry into other emerging markets (31:10) - OLX entry into Africa (45:32) - Product and monetization strategy (58:17) - Discussing OLX’s Africa exit (1:22:54) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:10:58) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:38:39) - Recommendations and small wins Olumide’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: Microsoft 365. I’ve used it for 17 years and it just gets better and better Small win: Using my old Lenovo ThinkPad from 2016. My computer crapped out on Friday and so I had to dust the cobwebs and it still works Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility. Bankole’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: Cryptocurrency 161,  Reversion to the mean: the real long COVID - by John Luttig & Heartwarming story - Installing a payphone in my house Small win: 4 mile run after a long break Other content: Why I am leaving OLX - Fabrice Grinda, Margin Call - IMDB & Larry Tesler - Inventor of Copy and Paste Listeners: We’d love to hear from you. Email info@afrobility.com with feedback! Founders & Operators: We'd love to hear about what you're working on, email us at info@afrobility.com Investors: It would be great to link up with you. Contact us at info@afrobility.com Join our insider mailing list where we get feedback on new episodes & find all episodes on Afrobility.com
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May 20, 2022 • 1h 42min

#51: Jiji - How the Classifieds platform became the largest marketplace in West & East Africa

Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Jiji - the African classifieds platform. We’ll explore the Jiji story across 6 areas: Classifieds platforms in other emerging markets Classifieds platforms in Africa Jiji’s early history Jiji’s product & monetization strategy Jiji’s competitive positioning & potential exit options overall outlook. This episode was recorded on May 15 2022. Companies discussed: Jiji, Genesis Group, Naspers, OLX, Craigslist, Avito.ru, Adevinta, Jumia, Konga, Cars45, Cheki.ng, Autochek, Tonaton, Saltside Technologies, Bikroy, Dubizzle, Kalahari, Autotrader & Property24 Business concepts discussed: Classifieds platforms, classifieds monetization, M&A strategy, e-commerce, social commerce, agency banking & marketplace  Conversation highlights: (01:36) - Why we’re talking about GG today (09:51) - Classifieds platforms in other emerging markets (23:15) - Africa classifieds context (27:12) - OLX in Africa (36:48) - Jiji founding and early history (45:33) - Fundraising and Growth (1:03:09) - Product and monetization strategy (1:09:33) - Competition and options for exit (1:30:06) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:32:13) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook (1:38:55) - Recommendations and small wins Olumide’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: Re-watched Amelie - Great movie Small win: Setup 2nd whiteboard in my room. Fun times ahead Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com Bankole’s recommendations & small wins: Recommendation: Last Last - Burna Boy & Business Breakdowns Podcast - DigitalBridge Small win: Planting season in Seattle :) Other content: Tweet about Twilio stock-based compensation & History of the United States in 5 crashes Investors, Operators, Entrepreneurs - We’d love to hear from you. Please email info@afrobility.com to share feedback or propose topics you’d like to hear. Join our insider mailing list where we get feedback on new episodes & find all episodes on Afrobility.com

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