

Afrobility: Africa Tech and Business
Olumide Ogunsanwo and Bankole Makanju
Stories and analyses of African technology companies
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Jan 19, 2023 • 1h 53min
#60: M-Kopa - How the asset financing platform is providing access to consumer products across Kenya & Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about M-Kopa, the African asset financing platform. We’ll explore the M-Kopa story across 5 areas:
African electrical power context
M-Kopa's early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & exit options
Then we'll end with our views on its overall outlook.
This episode was recorded on Jan 15, 2023
Companies discussed: M-Kopa, Safaricom (M-Pesa), d.light, Zola Electric, Transsion, Samsung, Nokia (HMD global), Airtel, MTN, Mobisol, Carbon & Fairmoney
Business concepts discussed: Rural electrification, Payment infrastructure, Pay-as-you-go Solar, Off-grid energy, asset financing, credit scoring, risk assessment & renewable energy
Conversation highlights:
(05:45) - Africa electricity access context
(09:45) - Kenya electricity access context
(14:55) - M-Kopa early history
(16:55 ) - Founders’ background
(25:07) - Other ideas before M-Kopa and M-Kopa launch
(28:44) - Launch strategy - partnerships, sales and distribution
(32:05) - Fundraising, Growth, Geo Expansion, Team
(54:01) - Product strategy and how the product works
(1:06:04) - Monetization strategy
(1:14:16) - Competition and options for exit
(01:29:50) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:38:06) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:48:08) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com
Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Recommendation 1: Descript: We use it for afrobility and even though I didn't initially think we needed it, it's grown on me. Especially now that I'm using it more aggressively for my personal finance book (myfiredom.com) editing
Recommendation 2: Dances with wolves movie. So so good!
Small win 1: Hung out with mum during thanksgiving break. It was cool!
Small win 2: New years day with friends in London. It was nice!
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Building an AI Chatbot off Podcast Transcripts
Small win: Happy to be back home after months of travelling in Nigeria, Kenya, South Africa
Other content: M-Kopa Solar Is Making a Profit on Poor Africans
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Dec 18, 2022 • 2h 28min
#59: Africa Tech - 2023 & Beyond (Creator Roundtable #2)
Overview: Today, we’re going to have a creator roundtable to discuss the African tech ecosystem. We’ll discuss the biggest 2022 moments in Africa Tech & our hopes for the tech ecosystem in 2023. This episode was recorded on Dec 10, 2022
Companies discussed: Flutterwave, FTX, 54gene, Swvl, Chipper Cash, TeamApt (Moniepoint), QED, Binance, Remitly, Brimore, Shoprite, & Jumia
Business concepts discussed: Economic recessions, fundraising, bootstrapping, Cryptocurrency, M&A, Creator monetization & Pan-African Expansion
Conversation highlights:
(07:35) - Biggest 2022 moments
(00:53) - Impact of Recession on Africa Tech
(1:00:05) - What we would like to see in 2023
(1:28:00) - Creator Q&A
(2:00:24) - Recommendations & Small Wins
Olumide:
Recommendation: Knives Out 2 (Movie). Excellent and funny sequel :)
Win: Opened Fidelity HSA. I had used Vanguard only previously. Fidelity has nice functionality & UX (especially for HSAs)
Bankole:
Recommendation: Unauthorized Shein boutiques are popping up across Mexico & Co-founding considered harmful
Win: Seeing Emeka in person
Emeka:
Recommendation: Magical Text Expander (tool), Friction (article), Afridigest (newsletter)
Win: Finally meeting & taking a picture with the Oga of Ogas, Bankole. Plus: Afridigest crossing 4500 page followers on LinkedIn — help us on the push to 5000!
Other content: Why super apps are proliferating across emerging markets, The hierarchy of venture opportunities in emerging markets
Justin:
Recommendation: ChatGPT & the Dissect podcast
Small win: My alma mater the University of Michigan beating our rivals Ohio State in football for the second year in a row. Getting to spend a lot of in-person quality time with people in the African tech ecosystem over the past few weeks in Cape Town
Samora:
Recommendation: “Founders Podcast” by David Senra & Michael Jordan The Life - by Roland Lazenby
Big Win - Getting my 2nd born daughter
Other content: Amp it Up by Frank Slootman is a great read - Narco Saints on Netflix is superb!
Listeners: We’d love to hear from you. Email info@afrobility.com with feedback!
Founders & Operators: We'd love to hear about what you're working on, email us at info@afrobility.com
Investors: It would be great to link up with you. Contact us at info@afrobility.com

Nov 3, 2022 • 2h 31min
#58: Reliance Health - How the HealthTech platform is providing insurance & health services across Nigeria & Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Reliance Health, the African HealthTech company - we’ll explore the Reliance Health story across the following areas:
African health context
Reliance Health's early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & potential exit
Overall outlook
This episode was recorded on October 30, 2022
Companies discussed: Reliance Health, Y Combinator (YC), Hygeia HMO, CribMD, AXA Mansard, RedCare & BIMA Health
Business concepts discussed: Insurance monetization, Insurance partnerships, consumer distribution, telco partnerships, product development, consumer market penetration & pricing strategy
Conversation highlights:
(01:00) - Intro and why we’re talking about Reliance Health
(06:12) - Context of Africa and Nigeria’s healthcare
(13:03) - Reliance Health Founding + Early History
(39:25) - Fundraising & Geo expansion
(52:16) - Product strategy and monetization
(1:36:00) - Competition and options for exit
(1:45:57) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:59:57) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(2:14:17) - Recommendation and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com
Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Recommendation: Kinky Boots: Musical show in NYC. It was incredible!
Recommendation: Paying for Status: Talks about loyalty strategy. Reward programs + finance + customer loyalty strategy article. I love it.
Recommendation: The Man Who Solved the Market: How Jim Simons Launched the Quant Revolution (by Gregory Zuckerman)
Small win: Finishing Included VC fellowship. It was incredible especially meeting everyone in Included VC live in Barcelona la
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Podcast: Sandy Kemper of C2FO on Fintech One-on-One & Podcast: Invest Like The Best with Karen Karniol-Tambour
Small win: Getting ready for upcoming travel
Other content: Podcast: Femi Kuti on Aid Evolved
Listeners: We’d love to hear from you. Email info@afrobility.com with feedback!
Founders & Operators: We'd love to hear about what you're working on, email us at info@afrobility.com
Investors: It would be great to link up with you. Contact us at info@afrobility.com

Oct 26, 2022 • 2h 7min
#57: African InsurTech - How consumer insurance platforms are providing insurance across Africa
Overview: Today we’re going to talk about African Insurtech. We’ll discuss the consumer insurance landscape & analyze InsurTech players. This episode was recorded on October 17, 2022
Companies discussed: Reliance Health, BIMA, Naked Insurance, Pineapple Insurance, Amenli, Creditas, Minutos Seguros, Acko, Policy Bazaar, Casava Insurance, Lami, Curacel, Turaco, Amanleek & Avidea
Business concepts discussed: New product development, consumer market penetration & pricing strategy
Conversation highlights:
(01:20) Consumer InsurTech context
(12:30) Insurtech in other emerging markets - India
(23:40) Insurtech in other emerging markets - Brazil
(34:50) Insurance context in Africa
(47:17 ) Southern Africa startups
(1:02:20) Western Africa startups
(1:14:19) Eastern Africa startups
(1:24:34) Northern Africa startups
(1:31:42) Olumide’s & Bankole’s thoughts
(1:55:05) Recommendations & small wins
Olumide:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech : Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com
Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me
Recommendations: Miracle morning (Hal Elrod), 5AM club (Robin Sharma), How I found freedom in an unfree world (Harry Browne) & Early retirement extreme (Jacob Lund Fisker)
3 songs: Burna Boy - For My Hand (ft Ed Sheeran), Black Sherif - Second Sermon (Remix ft Burna Boy) & Craig David - I know you (ft Bastille) - Shoutout to my friend Jason Mothersill
Small win: House party with friends
Bankole:
Recommendation: Ku Lo Sa - Oxlade, HBO - House of Dragons & Facebook Love - Jaywon / Essence
Small win: Africa Tech Mixer in New York
Other content: Baobab Network report on InsurTech & Standard Bank report
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Sep 30, 2022 • 1h 49min
#56: Thrive Agric - How the Agriculture platform evolved from crowdfunding to supporting smallholder farmers across Nigeria & Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Thrive Agric, the Nigerian Agricultural technology company - we’ll explore Thrive Agric's story across 5 areas:
First we'll start with some context about African agriculture
Thrive Agric's launch & early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & potential exit options
Overall outlook
This episode was recorded on September 25 2022
Companies discussed: Thrive Agric, Apollo Agriculture & FarmCrowdy
Business concepts discussed: Agricultural Technology (AgriTech or AgTech), smallholder farmers acquisition strategy, Agriculture financing, Crowdfunding, Agriculture value and supply chains & Debt financing
Conversation highlights:
(10:41) - Africa Agriculture context
(19:38) - Nigeria Agriculture context
(26:14) - Nigeria crowdfunding backgroun
(32:30) - Founders’ background and launch story
(46:48) - Fundraising
(55:47) - Product and monetization strategy,
(1:09:15) - Competition & options for exit
(1:19:20) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:24:45) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:32:25) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com
Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Recommendation: Jim Rohn - How to change your life video - Incredible. He just drops non-stop knowledge bombs. Remarkable
Recommendation: Toucan chrome extension to learn languages
Small win: Exercise of writing 50 goals. Brought up a lot of interesting ideas. Shout to Alan Donegan for facilitating this
Other content: A Thrive Agric Story. One Farmer at a Time.
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: AI And The Limits Of Language, Lindy Hacker News & Lying For Money
Small win: Strength workouts
Other content: Asake - Mr Money with the vibe, ThriveAgricPR - product overview, Leadway Insurance response on Twitter, SEC Nigeria rules on Crowdfunding, Invest Like The Best - Jeff Jordan & Kevin Systrom on Lex Fridman
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Aug 28, 2022 • 2h
#55: Apollo Agriculture - How the AgriTech platform is supporting smallholder farmers to scale across Kenya & Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Apollo Agriculture, the Kenyan AgTech company - we’ll explore the Apollo story across the following areas
African agriculture context
Apollo's launch & early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & exit options
Overall outlook
This episode was recorded on Aug 21, 2022
Companies discussed: Apollo Agriculture, The Climate Corporation (WeatherBill), Pula, FarmDrive, Monsanto, FairMoney & Kuda Bank
Business concepts discussed: Agricultural Technology (AgriTech or AgTech), smallholder farmers, Risk mitigation, Debt funding, Customer acquisition costs (CAC) & Customer lifetime value (LTV, CLV)
Conversation highlights:
(06:10) - Agriculture context in Africa
(21:00) - Context on Agriculture in Kenya
(27:33) - Apollo founding story and founder background
(40:55) - Fundraising and growth
(55:14) - Product and monetization strategy
(1:17:58) - Competition and exit options
(1:27:53) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:34:50) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:49:36) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com
Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Recommendation: Little Ways The World Works: Article by Morgan Housel. Great article talking about how learning from different fields is very helpful. He goes over learnings from evolution, astronomy, biology, anatomy, etc
Recommendation: University of Berkshire Hathaway: Auto recommended by Kindle. Great. Chronicles 30 years of Berkshire Hathaway Annual meeting discussions
Small win: Beach gathering with friends, it was fun
Small win: Just got back from NYC 30 minutes before recording this episode, a lot of fun
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Soul In The Game - Vitaly Katsenelson && Asake - Terminator && For My Hand - Burna Boy and Ed Sheeran
Small win: Beat my previous Readwise streak of 190 days!
Other content: CIA Factbook on Kenya, FAOStat Food production, Interdependence and modularity - Christensen institute , All I Want To Know Is Where I'm Going To Die So I'll Never Go There: Buffett & Munger – A Study in Simplicity and Uncommon, Common Sense
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Jul 22, 2022 • 2h 1min
#54: Swvl - How the bus mobility platform became one of the largest transportation companies in Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Swvl, the Egyptian and Dubai based mobility platform. We’ll explore the Swvl story across 5 areas:
Egypt transportation context
Swvl's early history
Product & monetization strategy
Swvl's SPAC public offering
Overall outlook.
This episode was recorded on July 17, 2022
Companies discussed: Swvl, Careem, Uber, Treepz & Rocket Internet
Business concepts discussed: Mobility strategy, Ridesharing, Bus sharing, Public transportation, infrastructure dependencies, IPOs & Special Purpose Acquisition Companies (SPACs)
Conversation highlights:
(01:00) - Intro and why we’re discussing this topic
(06:15) - Context on Egypt and Africa ridesharing
(13:50) - Founders’ background and Swvl founding
(25:22) - Fundraising and geographical expansion
(31:15) - Expansion strategy and acquisitions
(38:12) - Product and monetization strategy
(59:16) - Competition and SPAC
(1:16:55) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:30:15) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:44:35) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: The Power Law book - About the history of venture capital
Recommendation: Nas - One Mic
Small win: Upgraded RAM in my old laptop, I haven't done that in a while. It feels awesome to do something mechanical like that
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com
Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: What Does A Batsman See & Matter - Reading App & Build by Tony Fadell
Small win: Started taking long walks again. No music, just walks over an hour
Other content: More Money Than God - Sebastian Mallaby & Dial 911 and Wall Street answers - NY Times
Listeners: We’d love to hear from you. Email info@afrobility.com with feedback!
Founders & Operators: We'd love to hear about what you're working on, email us at info@afrobility.com
Investors: It would be great to link up with you. Contact us at info@afrobility.com

Jul 8, 2022 • 2h 2min
#53: Konga - How the Ecommerce platform initially grew and eventually reset across Nigeria
Overview: Today, we discuss Konga, the Nigerian e-commerce company. We’ll explore the Konga story across 5 areas:
We'll give some context about the Nigerian e-commerce sector
Konga's early history
Product & Monetization strategy
Konga sale
Overall outlook
This episode was recorded on July 3, 2022
Companies discussed: Konga, Jumia, Naspers, Kinnevik, Jiji, OLX, Amazon, Takealot, Yudala & Zinox
Business concepts discussed: Ecommerce, marketplaces, classifieds, fundraising strategy, Blitzscaling risks, market readiness & Africa expansion
Conversation highlights:
(01:13) - Konga background and why we’re talking about it
(09:19) - Nigeria background and context
(14:00) - Nigeria commerce context c. 2012
(17:00) - Background on Sim Shagaya
(29:02) - Konga launch strategy and fundraising
(45:55) - Konga monetization
(50:51) - Competition with Jumia
(1:04:35) - Konga’s business lines
(1:08:10) - Konga’s declining fortunes and sale to Zinox
(1:27:00) - Lessons for startups from Konga
(1:39:28) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:53:57) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:57:34) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Eboys - Book about the history of Benchmark
Recommendation: Different kinds of smart (Morgan housel blog post). Article so good that I subscribed to his entire blog
Small win: Listening to 20MinVC episode with Fabrice Grinda (OLX founder) the day after I published Afrobility OLX episode
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com
Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Business Breakdowns Podcast - Amazon Aggregators
Small win: in-person meetings with friends at work
Other content: Chinese E-Commerce to Surpass 50% of Total Retail Sales | BoF - link
Listeners, Operators & Investors: Email info@afrobility.com, we’d love to partner or get your feedback.
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Jun 14, 2022 • 1h 50min
#52: OLX Africa - How the Classifieds platform initially grew and eventually shut down across Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about OLX - the classifieds & marketplace platform. We’ll explore the OLX Africa story across 4 areas:
OLX's early history
OLX's growth in other emerging markets
OLX Africa's early history & Naspers acquisition
Naspers OLX exit from Africa
This episode was recorded on June 5, 2022.
Companies discussed: OLX, Jiji, Craigslist, Konga, Naspers, Kalahariads, Dealfish, Pricecheck, Mocality & Tradestable
Business concepts discussed: Classifieds platforms, classifieds monetization, M&A strategy, e-commerce, social commerce, lift and shift business models & international expansion
Conversation highlights:
(01:30) - OLX context
(06:30) - How classifieds work
(12:00) - OLX founding and early history
(26:03) - OLX entry into other emerging markets
(31:10) - OLX entry into Africa
(45:32) - Product and monetization strategy
(58:17) - Discussing OLX’s Africa exit
(1:22:54) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:10:58) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:38:39) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Microsoft 365. I’ve used it for 17 years and it just gets better and better
Small win: Using my old Lenovo ThinkPad from 2016. My computer crapped out on Friday and so I had to dust the cobwebs and it still works
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com
Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Cryptocurrency 161, Reversion to the mean: the real long COVID - by John Luttig & Heartwarming story - Installing a payphone in my house
Small win: 4 mile run after a long break
Other content: Why I am leaving OLX - Fabrice Grinda, Margin Call - IMDB & Larry Tesler - Inventor of Copy and Paste
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May 20, 2022 • 1h 42min
#51: Jiji - How the Classifieds platform became the largest marketplace in West & East Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Jiji - the African classifieds platform. We’ll explore the Jiji story across 6 areas:
Classifieds platforms in other emerging markets
Classifieds platforms in Africa
Jiji’s early history
Jiji’s product & monetization strategy
Jiji’s competitive positioning & potential exit options
overall outlook.
This episode was recorded on May 15 2022.
Companies discussed: Jiji, Genesis Group, Naspers, OLX, Craigslist, Avito.ru, Adevinta, Jumia, Konga, Cars45, Cheki.ng, Autochek, Tonaton, Saltside Technologies, Bikroy, Dubizzle, Kalahari, Autotrader & Property24
Business concepts discussed: Classifieds platforms, classifieds monetization, M&A strategy, e-commerce, social commerce, agency banking & marketplace
Conversation highlights:
(01:36) - Why we’re talking about GG today
(09:51) - Classifieds platforms in other emerging markets
(23:15) - Africa classifieds context
(27:12) - OLX in Africa
(36:48) - Jiji founding and early history
(45:33) - Fundraising and Growth
(1:03:09) - Product and monetization strategy
(1:09:33) - Competition and options for exit
(1:30:06) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:32:13) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:38:55) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Re-watched Amelie - Great movie
Small win: Setup 2nd whiteboard in my room. Fun times ahead
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com
Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Last Last - Burna Boy & Business Breakdowns Podcast - DigitalBridge
Small win: Planting season in Seattle :)
Other content: Tweet about Twilio stock-based compensation & History of the United States in 5 crashes
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