

Afrobility: Africa Tech and Business
Olumide Ogunsanwo and Bankole Makanju
Stories and analyses of African technology companies
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Oct 19, 2023 • 2h 38min
#70: Carbon - How the credit-led neobank is providing loans, BNPL and financial services across Nigeria and Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to explore Carbon, the credit-led Neobank. We’ll discuss the Carbon story across the following areas:
African lending & consumer credit
Carbon's founding & early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & potential exit options
Overall outlook
This episode was recorded on Oct 15, 2023
Companies discussed: Carbon (PayLater, One Credit, OneFi, One Finance), Diamond Bank, Cafe Neo, Kaizen Venture Partners, FairMoney, Branch, Paga, Kuda Bank, GTBank, Access Bank, Chipper Cash, NuBank, Lesaka (NET1 UEPS), Lendable, Interswitch, Visa, RenMoney, Tala & Safaricom (M-Pesa)
Business concepts discussed: Smartphone credit assessment, consumer lending, unbanked population, Neobank strategy, Personal Finance OS & Buy Now Pay Later
Conversation highlights:
(00:48) - Carbon context
(08:15) - Consumer lending in Africa and Neobanks
(15:32) - Background on African banking and Neobanks
(32:02) - Founding story of Carbon & Founders’ background
(54:04) - Fundraising
(1:01:15) - Growth and Geographical Expansion
(1:08:03) - Acquisitions and investments
(1:15:54) - Team and organisation
(1:19:35) - Key metrics
(1:40:46) - Product strategy and monetization
(2:00:08) - Competition and options for exit
(2:10:33 - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(2:20:38) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(2:30:15) - Recommendation and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com. Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Checkout my FIREDOM book = FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) + Freedom = personal finance and financial independence book. Website, Read: Substack Newsletter & Buy: Print, eBook or Audiobook)
Recommendation: Lil Kesh - Shoki Remix. Song is beyond nice. I probably understand 15% of it. Lil Kesh was 19 years old when the song was released. The power of young people to Incredible things. Wow!
Recommendation: Lil Kesh - Don't Call Me (feat. Zinoleesky) [Lyrics Visualiser].
Recommendation: Ruger - Ruger. The song literally starts with “Man, I spit fire…”. How can I not love it?
Small win: Switched to Instacart (from Amazon Fresh) for groceries. Not going back
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Fair Isaac Company on Business Breakdowns, MTN on Business Breakdowns
Small win: New phone
Other content: Building Magic - The Cafe Neo story & Chipper Cash AI Day
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Oct 6, 2023 • 2h 18min
#69: FairMoney - How the credit-led neobank is providing consumer loans and financial services across Nigeria, India and other developing markets
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about FairMoney, the credit-led Neobank in emerging markets. we’ll explore the FairMoney story across the following areas
African lending & consumer credit
FairMoney's founding & early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & potential exit options
Overall outlook
This episode was recorded on Oct 1, 2023
Companies discussed: FairMoney, Branch, PalmPay, Kuda Bank, Carbon, 54Gene, GTBank, Access Bank, Ecobank, PalmPay, Carbon, PiggyVest, Upstart, Tala, Visa, Mastercard Safaricom (M-Pesa), PayForce & Chipper Cash
Business concepts discussed: Smartphone credit assessment, African customer segmentation strategy, Consumer lending, unbanked population, smartphone credit assessment, Neobank strategy & Personal Finance OS
Conversation highlights:
(03:01) - Intro
(07:19) - African consumer lending & neobank context
(18:35) - Neobanking context and background
(20:00) - FairMoney founding story and Founders’ background
(39:40) - Fundraising
(45:46) - Geographical expansion
(49:05) - Partnerships
(50:16) - Acquisitions
(55:42) - Team & Location strategy
(58:03) - User metrics and traction
(1:04:27) - Product and monetization strategy
(1:24:04) - Competition and options for exit
(1:35:44) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:47:30) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:55:17) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com. Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Checkout my FIREDOM book = FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) + Freedom = personal finance and financial independence book. Website, Read: Substack Newsletter & Buy: Print, eBook or Audiobook)
Recommendation 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger book 1: The Education of a Bodybuilder
Recommendation 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger book 2: Total Recall - My Unbelievably True Life Story
Recommendation 3: Richard Feynman's book: What Do You Care What Other People Think?": Further Adventures of a Curious Character (Feynman Book 2). I already read and recommended "Surely, you're joking Mr Feynman which was extraordinary)
Recommendation 4: Finnaus YT channel tells stories about financial companies and investors. Awesome. I watched the history of JP Morgan, Howard Marks, Jamie Dimon, Goldman Sachs, Fidelity, Vanguard and on and on. I must have spent over 10 hours in the past week on it
Small win: Hanging out in Rio de Janeiro. It was fun!
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Zealot by Reza Aslan, Remember Me - Fireboy (FAEM remix) & Lonely At The Top - Asake (FAEM Remix)
Small win: Exercising after recovering from an injury
Other content: Laurin Hainy on TechPoint Africa, We Rich People Will Not Tell You How We Make Our Money - IG Reel, Moneylender licensing in Nigeria , Examples of spurious correlations & Titan: A Golden Case in Indian Retail
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Sep 14, 2023 • 2h 48min
#68: Branch - From Kiva to providing consumer loans and FinTech services across Africa and other developing markets
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Branch, the FinTech lending company and Neobank. We’ll explore the story across the following 5 areas:
African lending & consumer credit
Branch's founding early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & potential exit options
Overall outlook
This episode was recorded on Sep 10, 2023
Companies discussed: Branch, Kiva, Kuda Bank, Chipper Cash, Earnin, Paga, FairMoney, MFS Africa, GTBank, Access Bank, Ecobank, PalmPay, Carbon, PiggyVest, Upstart, Tala, Visa, Mastercard & Safaricom
Business concepts discussed: Smartphone credit assessment, Consumer lending, neobank strategy, Personal Finance OS, unbanked population, smartphone credit assessment & Pan-African Banking
Conversation highlights:
(01:00) - What Branch is and why we’re talking about it
(07:40) - Africa consumer credit context and background
(19:17) - Branch International founding
(23:31) - Founders’ background
(39:12) - Fundraising and Growth
(51:40) - Geographical expansion
(1:02:01) - Acquisitions and Team overview
(01:15:14) - Product strategy
(1:33:20) - Monetization strategy and Costs
(1:41:58) - Competition and options for exit
(1:57:08) - Bankole’s overall thoughts
(2:10:59) - Olumide’s overall thoughts
(2:30:20) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com. Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Checkout my FIREDOM book = FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) + Freedom = personal finance and financial independence book. Website, Read: Substack Newsletter & Buy: Print, eBook or Audiobook)
Recommendation: Eminem - Rap God (OMFG I’m 12 years late, my mind exploded. WOW!)
Recommendation: Can’t Hurt Me (David Goggins). Incredible book about challenges David went to from parental abuse, racism to make something of himself. I went through waves of intense emotions while reading the book. At some points, I was crying in pain with David and other times I was in pure shock about what I was listening to.
Small win: Hosted FIREDOM book launch event in London. Amazing conversations about life, managing money and growth. Dope shit.
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: American Prometheus by Kai Bird, A/B Testing with Fat Tails & Remember Me - Fireboy DML
Small win: Chin-chin from a recent trip to Lagos
Other content: Mobile overdraft facility Fuliza outshines Silicon Valley-backed lending apps in Kenya- TechCrunch & Inside Branch’s 20 percent interest investment push to beat Nigerian bank offerings - TechCabal
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Jul 27, 2023 • 2h 18min
#67: Sabi - How the B2B retail platform is providing business services to informal SMB retailers, distributors, suppliers and manufacturers in Nigeria and Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Sabi, the B2B retail & supply chain services platform. We’ll explore the story across the following areas:
Africa’s and Nigeria’s informal retail sector
Sabi’s early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & potential exit options
Overall Outlook.
This episode was recorded on July 23, 2023
Companies discussed: Sabi, Rensource, TradeDepot, Twiga Foods, Wasoko (Sokowatch), Omnibiz, Alerzo, & Marketforce
Business concepts discussed: Informal retail penetration, SMB retail OS, B2B Operating systems, Equity carve-outs, Power as a service, Channel margins & Supply chain logistics
Conversation highlights:
(01:00) - Sabi context
(06:30) - Africa and Nigeria informal retail context and background
(20:39) - Background on the founders
(30:04) - Quick Rensource detour - overview and background
(37:05) - Background on Sabi founding
(47:52) - Fundraising
(56:40) - Geographic expansion, partnerships and metrics, and growth
(1:10:15) - Product Strategy
(1:21:17) - How Sabi makes money
(1:32:06) - Competition and options for exit
(1:46:16) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:55:59) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(2:07:49) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com. Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Checkout my FIREDOM book = FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) + Freedom = personal finance and financial independence book. Website, Read: Substack Newsletter & Buy: Print, eBook or Audiobook)
Recommendation: Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity (book by Peter Attia)
Recommendation: I Don't Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression (book by Terrence Real)
Small win: Organized House party with friends yesterday, it was fun.
Small win: Got a new backpack for future travelling, very nice.
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Invest Like The Best with the co-founder of FIGS & Spiderman Song - Nigerian Remix
Small win: New keycaps!!!
Other content: How Equifax became a private IRS, Mission.org podcast episode with CEO Sabi & Norrsken22-Backed Nigerian Startup Plans $125 Million Round
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Jul 1, 2023 • 1h 60min
#66: TradeDepot - How the B2B retail platform is improving the supply chain for informal SME retailers and consumer goods producers across Nigeria and Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about TradeDepot. We’ll explore the story across the following areas:
Africa’s and Nigeria’s informal retail sector
TradeDepot's early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & potential exit options
Overall Outlook.
This episode was recorded on June 25, 2023
Companies discussed: TradeDepot, Twiga Foods, Wasoko (Sokowatch), Omnibiz, Alerzo, Marketforce, Sabi, Multipro, FMCG Distributions Limited & Kellogg
Business concepts discussed: Informal retail penetration, SMB retail OS, B2B Operating systems, Informal markets, B2B retail, Buy Now Pay Later, Trade Finance & last-mile distribution
Conversation highlights:
(01:00) - TradeDepot intro and why we’re talking about them
(06:50) - Africa’s informal retail sector
(20:55) - Differences in informal retail across Africa
(25:43) - Founders’ background and early history
(36:45) - Launch strategy
(42:54) - Fundraising and Growth
(49:55) - Growth and geographical expansion
(1:02:33) - Product strategy and evolution
(1:15:26) - Monetization strategy and costs
(1:13:11) - Competition
(1:25:05) - Options for exit
(1:32:52) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:42:22) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:53:03) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com. Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Checkout my FIREDOM book = FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) + Freedom = personal finance and financial independence book. Website, Read: Substack Newsletter & Buy: Print, eBook or Audiobook)
Recommendation: Eleven Rings (Phil Jackson). Great book about the unbelievable career of Phil Jackson who won rings with the Bulls (Michael Jordan) & Lakers (Shaq & Kobe).
Recommendation: Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse movie. Best movie I’ve seen in years. Remarkably good. Great story. Great visuals. Fun!
Small win: Friends together for a birthday party on a boat and at the club. It was incredible.
Small win: FIREDOM book launch party in Washington DC. I wasn't even there but I felt the energy all the way from here in Miami.
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Voyager Playlist, Basquiat - Asake & Iya Eba’s Legacy
Small win: Switched to a new keyboard - the Keychron K2
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Jun 16, 2023 • 1h 56min
#65: Wasoko (Sokowatch) - How the B2B retail platform is providing services and improving the supply chain for informal retailers across Kenya and Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Wasoko (Sokowatch) We’ll explore the story across the following areas:
Africa’s and Kenya’s informal retail context
Wasoko's early history
Wasoko's Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & potential exit options
Overall outlook.
This episode was recorded on June 11, 2023
Companies discussed: Wasoko (Sokowatch), Twiga Foods, TradeDepot, OmniBiz, Alerzo, mPharma, Nestle, Unilever, Multipro, Marketforce, Udaan & Flipkart
Business concepts discussed: Informal retail penetration, Agency banking adoption, B2B Operating systems, Informal markets, & last-mile distribution
Conversation highlights:
(00:40) - Sokowatch background and why we’re talking about it
(08:35) - African informal retail context
(16:11) - Founder background and Founding story
(29:55) - Fundraising and early growth
(36:56) - Geographic expansion, growth and partnerships
(45;12) - Team strategy
(54:00) - Product strategy and monetization
(1:10:00) - Competition and options for exit
(1:23:13) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:33:05) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:43:30) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com. Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Checkout my FIREDOM book = FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) + Freedom = personal finance and financial independence book. Website, Read: Substack Newsletter & Buy: Print, eBook or Audiobook)
Recommendation: The Slight Edge. Amazing Personal Development book about a mental framework to apply daily actions to get what you want in life. I have read it about 6 times at this point.
Recommendation: Temu.com. Started using it for shopping. It has some cool gamification ideas to nudge ecommerce purchases
Small win: Hosted house party with friends. It was great to see everyone together
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Artificial Intelligence, a guide for Thinking Humans by Melanie Mitchell & Would You Sell Your Extra Kidney - Dylan Walsh
Small win: won my physical activity mini-league
Other content: FT fastest growing companies 2022 & Modularity Theory - Christensen Institute
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Jun 2, 2023 • 2h 13min
#64: Twiga Foods - How the AgriTech supply chain company is connecting SMB retailers and smallholder farmers to improve food logistics across Kenya and Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Twiga Foods. We’ll explore the story across the following 6 areas
Africa Agricultural context
Kenya farming & market access context
Twiga Foods’ early history
Twiga Foods’ Product & monetization strategy
Twiga Foods’ Competitive positioning & potential exit options
Future outlook.
This episode was recorded on May 28, 2023
Companies discussed: Twiga Foods, Apollo Agriculture, Vendease, Kibanda, Kellogg, Tolaram, Multipro, Olam, Dangote, Coca-Cola, Shoprite, Cargill, Nestle, Unilever & Safaricom (M-Pesa)
Business concepts discussed: Agriculture technology (AgTech, AgriTech or AgroTech), Agribusiness marketplaces, farming financing, Farmer market access opportunities, SMB Retail, B2B solutions and Agriculture Logistics.
Conversation highlights:
(01:00) - Twiga Foods context
(08:53) - Africa Agriculture context
(18:30) - Kenya background and agriculture context
(23:34) - Market access context in Africa
(31:20) - Market access context at Twiga Foods' founding
(40:12) - Founders’ background and farming context
(56:10) - Fundraising
(1:04:10) - Geographical expansion, Partnerships and Hiring
(1:15:00) - Metrics
(1:20:15) - Product & Monetization strategy, Cost structure
(1:32:58) - Competition
(1:35:00) - Options for exit
(1:45:50) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:58:58) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(2:06:31) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Berkshire Hathaway story on the Acquired podcast. It has multiple parts and is really good. The Acquired podcast is like the non-African version of Afrobility. They tell stories of companies in developed markets. Alternatively you could say Afrobility is the African version of Acquired.
Recommendation: Exxon-Mobil analyses on Business Breakdown podcast. Business Breakdowns is like a more serious suit-and-tie version of Acquired. As you can tell from my recommendations I like podcasts that analyse businesses.
Small win: Sao Paulo trip. It was fun.
Small win: To physically touch and hold the Firedom (financial independence) book. I and Samon released the paperback and hardcover versions in May and I just received my author copy. It feels magical, the book is beautiful and bright red.
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Article about end of Life Dreams, Hallmarks of Good Product Sense & This Company Will Give You A Free TV In Exchange For Your Data | AdExchanger
Small win: The EPL season is over, and the suffering of being a Chelsea fan is on pause…
Other content: Winning in Africa’s agricultural market, After 18 Months, Your Investment Probably Isn’t Getting Marked Up - Angellist & Kellogg purchases 50% of Multipro for $450M
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Apr 14, 2023 • 2h 24min
#63: Yoco - How the South African FinTech is scaling Point-of-Sale and other payment solutions to merchants across Africa
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about Yoco, the South African Point-Of-Sale FinTech company. We’ll explore the story across the following areas:
South African payments context
Yoco’s early history
Yoco’s Product & monetization strategy
Yoco’s Competitive positioning & potential exit options
Overall outlook.
This episode was recorded on Apr 9, 2023
Companies discussed: Yoco, Square, Flutterwave, PayFast, PayThru, PayU, DPO, Flutterwave, Paystack, Stripe, Ikhokha, MTN, Safaricom, Zapper, Visa, Interswitch, Nedbank, ABSA, FNB (First National Bank South Africa) & Wave
Business concepts discussed: Merchants solutions, Points-of-Sale devices, SME Lending & hardware and software bundling
Conversation highlights:
(01:30) - Yoco context
(07:30) - Africa / SA payments context
(23:11) - Yoco Founding Story and Founders’ background
(40:45) - Fundraising and Growth
(51:52) - Partnerships, Acquisitions, and Team
(59:20) - Key metrics
(1:02:16) - Product Strategy
(1:19:42) - Monetization strategy
(1:30:50) - Competition
(1:36:42) - Options for exit
(1:49:06) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:57:01) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(2:07:14) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: I released my book called Firedom = FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) + Freedom = personal finance and financial independence book. It was an incredible journey to get it out and I’m very excited about it. I think many people will really enjoy it. You can buy the audiobook, ebook or print here. Here's an excerpt from the full blog post announcement:
Book Creation context: Around the end of 2022, I made a new friend when I met Samon, we instantly got along because we shared a lot in common: African immigrants who moved to America/Europe, worked in Management consulting and are in love with personal finance. We decided to embark on a project together and write a financial independence book we are calling Firedom!
What is Firedom book about? Living life intentionally + Personal finance + Financial independence + Personal Development + Freedom + Exploring your own unique path in life + Life adventures of two African immigrants
Who is it for? Underdogs, outsiders, expats, nomads, minorities, immigrants interested in :
Living their lives more intentionally to achieve Financial Independence
Learning about people's life stories (turning points, challenges, flameouts, etc)
Changing their mindset and psychological relationship with wealth
Recommendation: Owl City - Unbelievable. I love the song so much because it reminds me of adventures and experiences growing up
Recommendation: Good Hair - Documentary by Chris Rock. Good shit. Reduced my ignorance level about African women hair
Small win: Virgin Voyages cruise - First ever cruise. Very cool.
Small win: No scrubs Karaoke on cruise. Too much fun. It was an experience.
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Economist Article on Nitrogen & Asake - 2:30
Small win: Moderating a panel at the Harvard Business School Africa Business Conference
Other content: The Prosperity Paradox by Efosa Ojomo, Karen Dillon, Clay Christensen, Adyen pricing page & PayFast pricing page
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Mar 11, 2023 • 1h 46min
#62: DPO Group - How the FinTech payments platform went from bootstrapping for 8+ years to strategically acquiring multiple companies, and exiting to Network International for $288M
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about DPO Group. We’ll explore the story across the following areas
African payments context
DPO group’s early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & potential exit options
overall outlook.
This episode was recorded on Mar 5, 2023
Companies discussed: DPO Group, Network International, Apis partners, Flutterwave, Paystack, Interswitch, Safaricom, MTN, Airtel, Takealot.com, Superbalist.com, Safaricom, Yoco, PayPal & Chipper Cash
Business concepts discussed: Bootstrapping, Payments ecosystem, payments partnerships strategy, payments infrastructure, low-end disruption, banking regulation, Mobile Money, E-commerce payments, Virtual cards & payments M&A strategy
Conversation highlights:
(04:40) - Africa Payment Context at time of DPO’s founding
(12:46) - DPO Group Founding and early history
(14:05) - Founder Background
(25:57) - Fundraising and Growth
(29:48) - Acquisitions and Partnerships
(51:30) - Product and Monetization Strategy
(1:00:05) - Competition
(1:08:35) - DPO’s exit to Network International
(1:27:15) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:39:10) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:47:01) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: The War of Art: Book for creators and artists to get over the hump and release their inner creative expression to the world
Recommendation: Naval Ravikant podcast with David Deutsch talking about Physics. Amazing episode. Having two of them together is incredible. Like having a rap collabo.
Recommendation: Fela in Versace. Shit is too nice. I love songs that combine unrelated ideas
Small win: Soul Cycle for the First time. Dope shit.
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Stratechery Podcast - Eric Seufert and Ben Thompson & Mike Munger on EconTalk on Decision-making
Small win: I signed up for a gym membership for the first time ever
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Feb 3, 2023 • 1h 53min
#61: MFS Africa (Onafriq) - How the payments network hub is connecting telcos & financial institutions to increase interoperability across Africa and beyond
Overview: Today, we’re going to talk about MFS Africa. We’ll explore the MFS Africa story across the following 5 areas:
African payments context
MFS Africa’s early history
Product & monetization strategy
Competitive positioning & potential exit options
Overall outlook.
This episode was recorded on Jan 29, 2023
Companies discussed: Onafriq (MFS Africa), Safaricom (M-Pesa), Opay, Flutterwave, Paystack, MTN, Airtel, Orange, Chipper Cash, Ecobank, Safaricom, Homesend, TransferTo, MasterCard & Visa
Business concepts discussed: Financial interoperability, mobile money (agency banking), banking regulation, acquisition strategy, payment processing, payment gateways & closed-loop payment networks
Conversation highlights:
(09:50) - Africa payments context and background
(20:26) - MFS Africa founding and early history
(22:06) - Founder background
(31:40) - Fundraising and early growth
(38:44) - Partnerships and M&A
(1:02:15) - Product Strategy
(1:06:30) - Monetization Strategy
(1:13:59) - Competition and Options for Exit
(1:28:51) - Olumide’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:34:00) - Bankole’s overall thoughts and outlook
(1:47:00) - Recommendations and small wins
Olumide’s recommendations & small wins:
Interested in investing in Africa Tech with Olumide: Read about Adamantium fund & contact me at olumide@afrobility.com
Founders looking for funding: If you're a B2B founder working on Education, Health, Finance or food, please contact me for funding at olumide@afrobility.com
Recommendation: Be Happy 35 Powerful Methods for Personal Growth & Well-Being. Talks about practices for a positive mental health. Fun short read that you can refer to time and time again
Small win: Birthday celebrations with friends in Miami, NYC & SF. It was epic!
Bankole’s recommendations & small wins:
Recommendation: Accidental Gods by Anna Della Subin
Small win: I read 3 books in January
Other content: Afrobility Chipper Cash episode , Inside the MFS Africa acquisition of Beyonic & Follow me on Goodreads
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