
Columbia Energy Exchange
Columbia Energy Exchange features in-depth conversations with the world’s top energy and climate leaders from government, business, academia and civil society. The program explores today’s most pressing opportunities and challenges across energy sources, financial markets, geopolitics and climate change as well as their implications for both the U.S. and the world.
Latest episodes

May 20, 2025 • 59min
A Framework for Achieving Energy Equity
Diana Hernández, an associate professor at Columbia University and co-director of the Energy Opportunity Lab, dives deep into the alarming reality of energy insecurity in America. She discusses how many families struggle with soaring energy bills, often sacrificing basic needs to keep the lights on. Hernández highlights the limitations of current assistance programs like LIHEAP and advocates for innovative policy solutions to empower those affected. Her insights also challenge us to rethink energy as a public good, particularly in the pursuit of equity during the clean energy transition.

May 13, 2025 • 40min
Japan’s Shifting Energy Strategy
Tatsuya Terazawa, Chairman and CEO of Japan’s Institute of Energy Economics, discusses Japan’s evolving energy strategy in light of recent geopolitical tensions. He highlights the urgent need for energy security alongside carbon neutrality goals. The conversation dives into the importance of liquefied natural gas (LNG) and nuclear power in Japan's future energy mix. Terazawa also addresses the changing public sentiment around nuclear energy, emphasizing the balance between sustainability and reliability. His insights shed light on pragmatic energy planning amidst global challenges.

May 6, 2025 • 43min
Can Canada Become an Energy Superpower?
Andrew Leach, an energy and environmental economist at the University of Alberta, joins for a compelling discussion on Canada’s energy future. He delves into how the recent election of Mark Carney is reshaping Canada’s energy policies amid U.S. trade tensions. Can Carney balance the demands of clean energy and the oil-rich Alberta? Leach explores Canada’s potential to become an energy superpower while addressing climate goals. The conversation also highlights the critical role of Indigenous communities and the challenges of navigating complex energy dynamics.

Apr 29, 2025 • 56min
Energy’s Role in Ukraine Peace Talks
After more than three years of intense fighting following Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the path to end the war has been challenging. President Trump has been aggressively pushing both Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Russian President Vladimir Putin toward a peace deal as part of Trump's campaign promise to quickly end the war. Meanwhile, energy has emerged as a critical factor, functioning both as a weapon and target in this war. The peace deal Trump envisions would reportedly include U.S. control of the Ukrainian electrical supply and its nuclear power plants. And separately, the Trump administration has been working on a mineral deal with Ukraine for months. But developing any of those resources would take time because Ukraine's energy infrastructure has been severely crippled by war. In parts of Ukraine blackouts have become the norm. So what are the potential paths for peace ahead for Ukraine and how might sharing its mineral or energy resources with the U.S. play into those options? How has Ukraine's energy infrastructure fared during the war? And what energy security lessons can other countries learn from this conflict? This week, Jason Bordoff talks with Kyiv-based climate and energy reporter Tim McDonnell about the role that energy has played in the war in Ukraine and how it could factor into its resolution. Tim is the climate and energy editor for Semafor, where he writes the Net Zero newsletter, and is also a reporter for Quartz. He has covered the business and science of climate change for more than 10 years and has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Economist, among other publications. Tim lives in and reports from Kyiv and is writing a book about the role of energy in the Ukraine conflict. He joined the podcast to talk about the role energy plays in this conflict. Credits: Hosted by Jason Bordoff and Bill Loveless. Produced by Mary Catherine O’Connor, Caroline Pitman, and Kyu Lee. Engineering by Sean Marquand. Stephen Lacey is executive producer.

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Apr 22, 2025 • 39min
The Nexus of Climate Policy and National Security
Jake Sullivan, the Kissinger Professor at Harvard Kennedy School and former national security advisor, delves into the intersection of climate policy and national security. He discusses the Biden administration's strategy for energy independence and resilience against foreign threats, particularly from China. Sullivan highlights the complexities of tariffs, the importance of innovation, and the need for a U.S. sovereign wealth fund. He stresses how economic security intertwines with clean energy transitions, showcasing lessons learned for future policies.

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Apr 15, 2025 • 55min
Trade War Turbulence and Clean Energy
In this engaging discussion, Jason Furman, Aetna professor at Harvard and former economic advisor to President Obama, dives into the implications of President Trump’s tariffs. He explores how these policies could disrupt the U.S. clean energy sector, especially regarding solar panels and batteries. Furman also addresses the balance between protectionism and globalization, potential impacts on consumer prices, and the future of U.S. industrial policy. His insights shed light on the intricate connections between trade, economic health, and climate change.

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Apr 8, 2025 • 47min
Front Lines of the Energy Transition
Guests Noah Kaufman and Emily Grubert dive into the challenges faced by fossil fuel-dependent communities in the shift to renewable energy. Kaufman shares insights from his experience in climate policy, highlighting economic resilience strategies. Grubert discusses the critical need for planning and support as these communities transition, drawing on historical lessons. Both emphasize listening to local voices and building coalitions to navigate this complex change efficiently, ensuring a sustainable energy future for all.

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Apr 1, 2025 • 40min
Europe's Energy Trilemma
Dan Jørgensen, the European Commissioner for Energy and Housing and former Danish Minister for Global Climate Policy, dives into the EU’s urgent energy challenges. He discusses the ambitious shift to renewable sources amidst geopolitical tensions and the need to reduce dependence on Russian gas. Jørgensen highlights the complexity of navigating energy efficiency, security, and affordability. He also touches on the role of energy interconnectivity, the importance of nuclear power, and efforts to enhance infrastructure resilience against emerging threats.

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Mar 25, 2025 • 44min
Breaking America's Energy Policy Gridlock
Heidi Heitkamp, the first woman elected to represent North Dakota in the U.S. Senate, shares her insights on the current energy policy gridlock. She discusses the intense tug-of-war between fossil fuel interests and renewable energy initiatives, especially in resource-rich regions. Heitkamp emphasizes the need for bipartisan dialogue to craft long-term strategies that balance economic growth with climate goals. She also reflects on the challenges in updating critical infrastructure and the importance of addressing young voters' climate concerns.

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Mar 18, 2025 • 56min
At CERAWeek, Mixed Responses to Trump 2.0
Javier Blas, a Bloomberg opinion columnist with extensive experience in energy reporting, joins Axios's Ben Geman, who covers energy policy and climate issues. They dive into the mixed reactions of energy leaders at CERAWeek regarding a potential Trump 2.0 administration and its implications for U.S. energy policy. Key discussions include the worries about declining oil prices, the need for investment in energy security, and the lively debate on the future of clean energy technologies versus fossil fuels. Their insights shed light on the evolving landscape of global energy.