For The Long Run: Exploring the Why Behind Running

This episode of For The Long Run is with Corrine Malcolm. Corrine is a lot of things, but predominantly a runner who loves really good crusty bread with a lot of butter! She is a dog lover, wife, professional trail runner, coach, podcaster, editor-in-chief, sports commentator, scientist, and more! In this episode we talk about: -different ways to give back to sports and stand up for what’s right  -talking running: race commentary and the Trail Society podcast -the rise of women's sports  -crewing Lululemon’s Project FURTHER ultramarathon and other long events  -troubleshooting in races  Tune in to Corrine’s podcasts Trail Society and The Trail Head. Catch up with Corrine’s first appearance on For The Long Run: 20. Corrine Malcolm: Science Meets Ultrarunning Follow Corrine on Instagram @corrinemalcolm and For The Long Run @forthelrpod If you want to join us for exclusive deals, giveaways, and community connection with other listeners of the show, head to the link in the show notes to join our brand new community, The Group Run. No paywall, just sign up to be part of our community and have the chance to win cool stuff and connect with me and other audience members! We can’t wait to see you there. https://app.dropstation.io/forthelongrun --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Boulderthon Boulderthon is not only a marathon, but also a half marathon, a 10K, a 5K, and even a kids run: it has a little something for everyone. Sign up for Boulderthon here and use code FTLR20 for $20 off the half or full marathon. 2Before 2Before is a natural sports performance supplement made from New Zealand Blackcurrant berries that have exceptionally high antioxidant levels and are proven to enhance athletic performance, improve endurance, help kick-start recovery, and strengthen immunity. Use code FTLR at 2before.com to save 30% on 20 and multiserve packs.  Skratch Skratch has everything you need from pre and during workout fuel, to recovery, and now they have a brand new product that we’re psyched about: the Hydration Everyday Drink Mix. Use code FTLRPOD for 20% off your order or click the link here!. PUMA This episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA.  I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FTLR24 for 20% off any PUMA run or train products.

Ezra describes himself as a nice Jewish boy from New York. He’s been running for four and a half years, completing half and full marathons, and especially loves the social side of the sport. Ezra is the founder of Nice Jewish Runners: a social run club for Nice Jewish Runners and friends. In this episode we talk about: -being inspired to run by David Goggins  -coaching and team support for all abilities in all areas of life -community to the core, in running and life -Nice Jewish Runners: running for more Jewish lives -taking action in the face of fear, suffering, and antisemitism Follow Ezra on Instagram @ezrafeig Nice Jewish Runners @nicejewishrunners and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Boulderthon Boulderthon is not only a marathon, but also a half marathon, a 10K, a 5K, and even a kids run: it has a little something for everyone. Sign up for Boulderthon here and use code FTLR20 for $20 off the half or full marathon. Skratch Skratch has everything you need from pre and during workout fuel, to recovery, and now they have a brand new product that we’re psyched about: the Hydration Everyday Drink Mix. Use code FTLRPOD for 20% off your order or click the link here!. Cheribundi Cheribundi has created a tasty Tart Cherry juice that helps reduce inflammation, promotes better recovery and sleep. Use code FTLR for 20% off a one time order at cheribundi.com. Drink one after your training session to jumpstart your recovery, or try their sleep product before bed. 2Before 2Before is a natural sports performance supplement made from New Zealand Blackcurrant berries that have exceptionally high antioxidant levels and are proven to enhance athletic performance, improve endurance, help kick-start recovery, and strengthen immunity. Use code FTLR at 2before.com to save 30% on 20 and multiserve packs.

Dr. Megan Roche is back on the podcast by popular demand, to talk about all things running, coaching, science, and why a waffle cone is the secret to getting out of the pain cave! Megan is so many things, including one of the best athletes in the world, but today she describes herself as a lover of ice cream, adventures, and being weird! When she’s not being the best mom to Leo, or coaching Team SWAP’s amazing athletes, Megan is busy as a doctor, PhD, scientist and researcher passionate about female athlete health. In this episode we talk about: -going through severe health challenges and pregnancy as an elite athletes: self-doubt through the setback, curiosity on the comeback -the allure of the Western States Endurance Run (WSER) and 100 mile races  -Lululemon’s Project FURTHER and research into women's running potential  -ketones for athletes -high altitude training and fitness evolutions -SWAP podcast and coaching relationships  Tune into Megan’s first FTLR appearance on episode 169: Megan Roche: Infectious Positivity And her husband, David Roche, on episode 300: Reflections and Revelations from 300 Episodes Check out Megan and David Roche’s “Some Work All Play” (SWAP) website and podcast here: https://swaprunning.com/ Follow Megan on Instagram @meg_runs_happy and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Skratch Skratch has everything you need from pre and during workout fuel, to recovery, and now they have a brand new product that we’re psyched about: the Hydration Everyday Drink Mix. Use code FTLR20 for 20% off your order at SkratchLabs.com.  2Before 2Before is a natural sports performance supplement made from New Zealand Blackcurrant berries that have exceptionally high antioxidant levels and are proven to enhance athletic performance, improve endurance, help kick-start recovery, and strengthen immunity. Use code FTLR at 2before.com to save 30% on 20 and multiserve packs.  Boulderthon Boulderthon is not only a marathon, but also a half marathon, a 10K, a 5K, and even a kids run: it has a little something for everyone. Sign up for Boulderthon here and use code FTLR20 for $20 off the half or full marathon. HydraPakHydraPak create better hydration solutions for performance-driven people, and have been helping us stay hydrated and happy out on the trails for years! Use code FTLR for 20% off HydraPak hydration hand-helds, filtration, collapsible flasks, and reservoirs, and to show your support of the For The Long Run team.

This episode is with Bermuda-based ultra runner and coach Sara Hole. Despite being a newer runner, Sara recently finished her first ultra marathon, calling herself a “shot shooter” and crediting her coach Megan Roche and Team SWAP. While running is a relatively new passion, Sara recalls being artistic and creative for as long as she can remember, describing herself as a content creator, thoughtful, caring and conscientious person. In this episode we talk about: -from unathletic to ultra runner in 2 years: catching the running bug -how running has benefited Sara’s self-confidence and whole life -going all in on coaching: advice for beginner runners -reframing ADHD as a superpower -team SWAP: coaching, community, cheerleading Follow Sara on Instagram @saralovesrunning and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Emich VW We’re so excited to be partnering with Emich VW, a family-owned and operated auto group based in the Denver/Boulder area. If you’re in the market for a new vehicle, consider electric, and consider the VW ID.4. And if you’re local,stop by the Emich VW dealer and say that we sent you. Boulderthon Boulderthon is not only a marathon, but also a half marathon, a 10K, a 5K, and even a kids run: it has a little something for everyone. Sign up for Boulderthon here and use code FTLR20 for $20 off the half or full marathon. Skratch Skratch has everything you need from pre and during workout fuel, to recovery, and now they have a brand new product that we’re psyched about: the Hydration Everyday Drink Mix. Use code FTLR20 for 20% off your order at SkratchLabs.com.  PUMAThis episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA.  I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FORTHELONGRUN for 20% off any PUMA run or train products.

This special bonus episode was recorded live in Boston ahead of the 2023 marathon. Jon interviews a diverse range of recreational runners curious about their running dreams and goals for this year’s Boston Marathon and beyond. From finish lines to favorable weather conditions, time goals and charity, we hear what motivates these athletes.  FTLR x Puma Boston Marathon weekend event Join For The Long Run in Boston for a Puma-sponsored panel hosted by Jon Levitt. Puma are putting on the Forever Faster Shakeout Run followed by a pro panel with Puma-sponsored elite runners and Olympians Molly Seidel and Dakotah Lindwurm, alongside special guest Bill Rogers. Register for free here as well as all the logistical information. Meb Have you heard last week’s episode with 2014 Boston Marathon winner Meb Keflezighi? 10 years after winning the Boston Marathon, Meb is back running it again! Join Meb and The MEB Foundation for brunch in Boston on Saturday, April 13th from 9:30 am - 11:30 am EST. Get your tickets here! Find out more about Meb and his 26 hats at mebstrong.com and marathonmeb.com  Follow For The Long Run on Instagram @forthelrpod  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more!

Meb comes from humble beginnings in Eritrea, where he was born in the middle of a war. His dad’s remarkable escape eventually brought Meb to the US where he learned English alongside how to run. Meb went on to represent Team USA in 4 Olympic Games, win the New York City and Boston Marathons, and much more. 2024 BM and 26 hats In this episode we talk about: -finding belonging and confidence through running  -the importance of a high work ethic and education  -marathon trials and tribulations -from the 2013 Boston Marathon bombings to winning the 2014 Boston Marathon -running for a higher purpose: charity, The Meb Foundation, Boston bombing victims, and faith -Meb’s brother and agent, Hawi, their professional relationship, and Hawi Management  -Meb’s 2024 Boston Marathon: 26 hats, running and race day advice Find out more about Meb and his 26 hats at mebstrong.com and marathonmeb.com  Follow Meb on Instagram @runmeb and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Cheribundi  Cheribundi has created a tasty Tart Cherry juice that helps reduce inflammation, promotes better recovery and sleep. Use code FTLR for 20% off a one time order at cheribundi.com. Drink one after your training session to jumpstart your recovery, or try their sleep product before bed. Skratch Skratch has everything you need from pre and during workout fuel, to recovery, and now they have a brand new product that we’re psyched about: the Hydration Everyday Drink Mix. Use code FTLR20 for 20% off your order at SkratchLabs.com.  Boulderthon Boulderthon is not only a marathon, but also a half marathon, a 10K, a 5K, and even a kids run: it has a little something for everyone. Sign up for Boulderthon here and use code FTLR20 for $20 off the half or full marathon. PUMA This episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA.  I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FORTHELONGRUN for 20% off any PUMA run or train products. Meb 10 years after winning the Boston Marathon, Meb is back running it again! Join Meb and The MEB Foundation for brunch in Boston on Saturday, April 13th from 9:30 am - 11:30 am EST. Get your tickets here!

Back by popular request, Amelia Boone joins the podcast for her 4th appearance! Today, Amelia describes herself as an emo teenager trapped in a 40-year old’s body, and is totally cool with that! Beyond that, Amelia says she is finally becoming and making peace with herself, as a whole human outside of athletics. She is a mental health and eating disorder advocate, who shares openly about her struggles and what she has learned along the way. In this episode we talk about: -strategies for dealing with running and life struggles -finding meaning and purpose outside of athletics -cold plunges  -creating communities that haven’t existed before: the Golden Girls -running longevity: maintaining a love of running through injuries and aging  Check out Amelia’s Substack at ameliaboone and on her website: ameliabooneracing.com Follow Amelia on Instagram @arboone11 and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  Tune in to Amelia’s previous appearances on the show here: 47. Amelia Boone: Training and racing with an ever evolving Why 97. Amelia Boone: Should we define happiness? 271. Mastering Crewing and Pacing for Ultrarunning Adventures with Amelia Boone & Alex Hildebrandt --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Boulderthon Boulderthon is not only a marathon, but also a half marathon, a 10K, a 5K, and even a kids run: it has a little something for everyone. Sign up for Boulderthon here and use code FTLR20 for $20 off the half or full marathon. 2Before 2Before is a natural sports performance supplement made from New Zealand Blackcurrant berries that have exceptionally high antioxidant levels and are proven to enhance athletic performance, improve endurance, help kick-start recovery, and strengthen immunity. Use code FTLR at 2before.com to save 30% on 20 and multiserve packs.  Fubo.tv We’re so excited to be partnering with Fubo.tv - the one-stop shop for you to take in all of your favorite live sports that you love to watch. They’re setting our listeners up with a free 14-day trial using the link fubotv.com/FTLR. You’ll also get a $20 discount on your first month when you sign up for a monthly plan.

This episode is with runner, content creator, podcast and YouTube sensation Tommie Runz. As per his Instagram bio, Tommie is a black sober runner on a mission to make stuff happen for himself and other people. He’s become known for documenting his own journey through podcasts, YouTube, and other media outlets, sharing his energy and experiences, good and bad, with others. In this episode we talk about: -running for those who can’t: why the Osaka marathon was so symbolic for Tommie  -dealing with grief and loss through running -speaking out about mental and physical health as a black male  -back-to-back marathons and Tommie Runz The World Tour: recovery, performance, and expectations  -running industry hot takes: the influencer space  Find out more about Tommy at tommierunz.com and his podcast The RUN EAT SLEEP show and the PR Project on YouTube. Follow Tommie on Instagram @tommie_runz and For The Long Run @forthelrpod --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! 2Before 2Before is a natural sports performance supplement made from New Zealand Blackcurrant berries that have exceptionally high antioxidant levels and are proven to enhance athletic performance, improve endurance, help kick-start recovery, and strengthen immunity. Use code FTLR at 2before.com to save 30% on 20 and multiserve packs.  PUMA This episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA.  I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FORTHELONGRUN for 20% off any PUMA run or train products. Boulderthon Boulderthon is not only a marathon, but also a half marathon, a 10K, a 5K, and even a kids run: it has a little something for everyone. Sign up for Boulderthon here and use code FTLR20 for $20 off the half or full marathon.

This episode is with TrainingPeaks co-founder Dirk Friel. Dirk’s self identity has evolved through different phases of life. The first half of his life was spent chasing his dream as a professional cyclist all over the world; the second half has been spent founding and growing TrainingPeaks, a software company enabling smart and effective endurance training, used by athletes and coaches all over the world. Dirk is also a husband, father, and son, inspired by his parents to stay active as he ages. In this episode we talk about: -falling in love with cycling for the races and adventures -Training Peaks: from start-up to sustained growth  -strategies for success: consistency, prioritization, uplifting others  -reframing the injury experience  -success is helping others succeed  -sharing the art and science of training: TrainingPeaks University, the CoachCast podcast  Check out the TrainingPeaks CoachCast podcast here; https://open.spotify.com/show/6kfURFq9GroOS3u8Sm6vfq Follow Dirk on Instagram @dirkfriel and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Boulderthon Boulderthon is not only a marathon, but also a half marathon, a 10K, a 5K, and even a kids run: it has a little something for everyone. Sign up for Boulderthon here and use code FTLR20 for $20 off the half or full marathon. 2Before 2Before is a natural sports performance supplement made from New Zealand Blackcurrant berries that have exceptionally high antioxidant levels and are proven to enhance athletic performance, improve endurance, help kick-start recovery, and strengthen immunity. Use code FTLR at 2before.com to save 30% on 20 and multiserve packs.  HydraPak HydraPak create better hydration solutions for performance-driven people, and have been helping us stay hydrated and happy out on the trails for years! Use code FTLR for 20% off HydraPak hydration hand-helds, filtration, collapsible flasks, and reservoirs, and to show your support of the For The Long Run team.

Marquis identifies as a simple person who loves to love on his people and be a bright light in his community. Humble to his core, Marquis lives his life with a smile on his face and others on his mind. After finishing his first marathon in 3:10, Marquis’ world has been transformed by running, and he uses it as a vehicle to give back, take chances, and make his grandma proud! In this episode we talk about: -community to the core -tips for marathon success and suffering  -running as a team sport: friends and family make the suffering worthwhile -seeking meaning over money: entrepreneurship and taking risks -smiling to success  Check out Marquis’ business Humble Mobile Auto Detailing: https://humblemobiledetail.wixsite.com/humble-mobile-auto-d  We mentioned For The Long Run Episode “267. Brian Schroy: Uniting Boulder's Runners with Weekly Soft Hour” give it a listen: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/forthelongrun/episodes/267--Brian-Schroy-Uniting-Boulders-Runners-with-Weekly-Soft-Hour-e24lak1  Follow Marquis on Instagram @humblequis and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Hyperice This episode is brought to you by Hyperice, a company who, like For The Long Run, is on a  mission to “help everyone on Earth move better, live better, and be better”. For long training days, rest days, and everything in between, Hyperice has all the tools you need to keep your body going for the long run. The For The Long Run community can save 15% off at Hyperice.com through the end of September with code FTLR2023. Skratch Labs We are proud to be sponsored by Skratch Labs, a local, Boulder-based sports nutrition company. You can grab energy bars, energy chews, hydration mix, recovery drink mix, and super high-carb drink mixes for your big days from Skratch to fuel your training and upcoming adventures. Get 20% off your order with the code FTLR20 when you shop through this link. 2Before Thank you to 2Before for sponsoring the podcast. 2Before is a natural sports performance supplement made from New Zealand Blackcurrant berries. These are the most researched berries, and those studies are showing that these berries have exceptionally high antioxidant levels and are proven to enhance athletic performance, improve endurance, help kick-start recovery, and strengthen immunity. So go ahead and try some out over at 2before.com. The code FTLR will save you 30% on 20, 10 and multiserve packs. And remember, supporting our brand partners helps to support the greater For The Long Run team.