
For The Long Run: Exploring the Why Behind Running
Exploring the why behind what keeps runners running long, strong, and motivated. Running is a sport that has the power to unite us all and we are here to share conversations about how running has shaped the lives of people within our community, as well as how running has created community in itself.
From pro runners and Olympians to ultramarathoners running their first big race to business owners who use running to improve their entrepreneurial journey, we believe in creating community and expanding the running world for all.
Hosted by running enthusiast, Jonathan Levitt.
Latest episodes

Apr 17, 2023 • 10min
Boston Marathon Dreams Bonus Episode!
This special bonus episode was recorded live in Boston ahead of the 2023 Boston Marathon. Jon interviews a diverse range of runners curious about their running dreams and goals for this year’s Boston Marathon and beyond. From finish lines to favorable weather conditions, time goals and charity, we hear what motivates these athletes.
Follow For The Long Run on Instagram @forthelrpod
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Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more!

Apr 13, 2023 • 56min
261. Sara Vaughn: Back for more at the Boston Marathon
Sara is a mom of four and wife to Brent, who is also her coach. She is a full time realtor based in Boulder, and also a Puma-sponsored professional runner.
In this episode we talk about:
-Sara’s build up to the 2023 Boston Marathon
-the Boston Marathon race experience
-fitting running in with a busy life
-giving back to the running community and the Vaughn childcare foundation
-breaking down the Boston Marathon
-not taking running too seriously: passion before performance
Tune into For The Long Run Episode 209 for Sara’s first appearance on the show.
Follow Sara on Instagram @smevaughn and For The Long Run @forthelrpod
--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support
Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more!
SaltStick
Thank you to SaltStick for sponsoring this episode of the For The Long Run Podcast. If you deal with muscle cramps, fatigue, or just general dehydration, check out SaltStick’s suite of products to help you replenish what you lose in your sweat during those long workouts on the road or on the trail.
Whether you’re a fan of capsules, powders, or chewables, you’ll find awesome flavors and plenty of hydration with SaltStick. Head over to aletenutrition.com to check them out and use code FTLR for 20% off your first order.
Puma
This episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA. For 75 years, PUMA has been pushing sports and culture forward with innovative design and development. We are honored to have PUMA supporting this show, and supporting the running community at large. I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FORTHELONGRUN for 20% off any PUMA run or train products.
Celebrate the 2023 Boston Marathon Week with us! Check out this link to see all the For The Long Run events we’re putting on, including meet ups and shakeout runs with Puma-sponsored athletes, and our 24.2 mile cheer stations. Hope to see you there!
Lauren Daniels
Thank you to Lauren Daniels for supporting the podcast. Lauren is a realtor helping buyers and sellers in the Greater Denver-Boulder area. With incredible attention to detail, Lauren helped me find the perfect home right near the trails, and made the whole home buying process as smooth and stress-free as possible. So, if you’re even considering buying a home in this area, I highly recommend working with Lauren. You can reach her at ldaniels@milehimodern.com, and let her know we sent you. Follow Lauren on Instagram @lauren.in.colorado

Apr 7, 2023 • 53min
Olympian Dakotah Lindwurm: Running 26.2 Miles and Smiles
Dakotah is a born and raised Minnesotan with a multi sport background. She graduated from a small Division II school with an Olympic dream that she’s now pursuing as a Puma-sponsored professional runner, alongside working as a paralegal.
In this episode we talk about:
-professional running pressure
-keeping running fun
-goal setting: process vs outcome
-The Boston Marathon
-behind the scenes on race day as a pro
Follow Dakotah on Instagram @dakotahlindwurm and For The Long Run @forthelrpod
--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support
Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more!
BolderBoulder
Held in Boulder every Memorial Day, the BolderBoulder 10K is one of the most fun races out there. In order to get even more psyched for this upcoming race, we are hosting some 5Ks here in Boulder, for folks to grab a time to get into a preferred wave. Come out and join us in Boulder for a fun community 5K to come together and get pumped for the BolderBoulder extravaganza. Everyone is welcome!
Join us on Saturday, April 8th at the Left Hand Trailhead at 9 am to get your time trial in. We’ll be giving away some gear from brand partners as well, so you’re not going to want to miss it. Sign up here!
Puma
This episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA. For 75 years, PUMA has been pushing sports and culture forward with innovative design and development. We are honored to have PUMA supporting this show, and supporting the running community at large. I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FORTHELONGRUN for 20% off any PUMA run or train products.
Celebrate the 2023 Boston Marathon Week with us! Check out this link to see all the For The Long Run events we’re putting on, including meet ups and shakeout runs with Puma-sponsored athletes, and our 24.2 mile cheer stations. Hope to see you there!
Lauren Daniels
Thank you to Lauren Daniels for supporting the podcast. Lauren is a realtor helping buyers and sellers in the Greater Denver-Boulder area. With incredible attention to detail, Lauren helped me find the perfect home right near the trails, and made the whole home buying process as smooth and stress-free as possible. So, if you’re even considering buying a home in this area, I highly recommend working with Lauren. You can reach her at ldaniels@milehimodern.com, and let her know we sent you. Follow Lauren on Instagram @lauren.in.colorado
Darn Tough
Thank you to Darn Tough for sponsoring this episode. I’ve been a fan of, and running in Darn Tough socks for years now, so we’re excited to welcome them to the For The Long Run family. Get a pair of your own here!

Mar 31, 2023 • 47min
259. Wookie Kim: Trails, Trauma, and Transitions
Wookie is a husband and civil rights lawyer living in Hawaii, who also loves running trails.
In this episode we talk about:
-exploring the world through running
-Wookie’s near death experience trail running
-pushing too far and reaching your absolute physical limits
-running risks
-following your passions with work and life
-meaning and value in life
Follow Wookie on Instagram @wookiekim and For The Long Run @forthelrpod
--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support
Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more!
Puma
This episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA. For 75 years, PUMA has been pushing sports and culture forward with innovative design and development. We are honored to have PUMA supporting this show, and supporting the running community at large. I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FORTHELONGRUN for 20% off any PUMA run or train products.
Previnex
This episode is also brought to you by Previnex. Previnex makes clinically effective supplements that promote longevity, performance, and every day health, and they donate vitamins to malnourished children with every customer order.
From firsthand experience, I can tell you that Previnex supplements are awesome and flat out work! I highly recommend you check out and try these products for yourself. One of the best parts is that if you don’t experience benefits on any product within 30 days, Previnex has a no questions asked 100% money back guarantee for a full refund. You have no risk and everything to gain here.
Use code FTLR for 15% off your first purchase of any products at previnex.com.
Lauren Daniels
Thank you to Lauren Daniels for supporting the podcast. Lauren is a realtor helping buyers and sellers in the Greater Denver-Boulder area. With incredible attention to detail, Lauren helped me find the perfect home right near the trails, and made the whole home buying process as smooth and stress-free as possible. So, if you’re even considering buying a home in this area, I highly recommend working with Lauren. You can reach her at ldaniels@milehimodern.com, and let her know we sent you. Follow Lauren on Instagram @lauren.in.colorado

Mar 24, 2023 • 50min
258. Sara Hayes: Falling In + Out Of Love With Running
Sara is a lifelong runner with a diverse range of running experiences. She is currently leaning into intuitive movement and embracing how running changes with different seasons of life.
In this episode we talk about:
-running through different seasons of life
-intuitive movement
-falling in and out of love with running
-navigating body image struggles
-improving your relationship with running
Follow Sara on Instagram @iamsarahayes and her company Mindful Miles @mindfulmilesmovement_ and For The Long Run @forthelrpod
--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support
Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more!
Puma
This episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA. For 75 years, PUMA has been pushing sports and culture forward with innovative design and development. We are honored to have PUMA supporting this show, and supporting the running community at large. I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FORTHELONGRUN for 20% off any PUMA run or train products.
Lauren Daniels
Thank you to Lauren Daniels for supporting the podcast. Lauren is a realtor helping buyers and sellers in the Greater Denver-Boulder area. With incredible attention to detail, Lauren helped me find the perfect home right near the trails, and made the whole home buying process as smooth and stress-free as possible. So, if you’re even considering buying a home in this area, I highly recommend working with Lauren. You can reach her at ldaniels@milehimodern.com, and let her know we sent you. Follow Lauren on Instagram @lauren.in.colorado

Mar 17, 2023 • 51min
257. Taggart Van Etten: Running Truths + Hot Takes
Taggart Van Etten is a fiance, Amazon employee, runner and endurance junkie, and a good Twitter follow!
In this episode we talk about:
-being an endurance junkie: triathlon, ultras, and more
-chasing an Olympic Trials Qualifying (OTQ) time in the marathon
-relatability through running highs and lows
-hydration and nutrition
-running hot takes: carbon fiber shoes and pro athletes
Follow Taggart on Instagram @taggart_vanetten and For The Long Run @forthelrpod
--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support
Lauren Daniels
Thank you to Lauren Daniels for supporting the podcast. Lauren is a realtor helping buyers and sellers in the Greater Denver-Boulder area. With incredible attention to detail, Lauren helped me find the perfect home right near the trails, and made the whole home buying process as smooth and stress-free as possible. So, if you’re even considering buying a home in this area, I highly recommend working with Lauren. You can reach her at ldaniels@milehimodern.com, and let her know we sent you. Follow Lauren on Instagram @lauren.in.colorado
SaltStick
Thank you to SaltStick for sponsoring this episode of the For The Long Run Podcast. If you deal with muscle cramps, fatigue, or just general dehydration, check out SaltStick’s suite of products to help you replenish what you lose in your sweat during those long workouts on the road or on the trail.
Whether you’re a fan of capsules, powders, or chewables, you’ll find awesome flavors and plenty of hydration with SaltStick. Head over to aletenutrition.com to check them out and use code FTLR for 20% off your first order.
Puma
This episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA. For 75 years, PUMA has been pushing sports and culture forward with innovative design and development. We are honored to have PUMA supporting this show, and supporting the running community at large. I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FORTHELONGRUN for 20% off any PUMA run or train products.

Mar 10, 2023 • 1h 10min
256. Brooke Torres: Start-Ups + Personalized Running Shoes
Brooke is the CEO and founder of Hilma, a new type of running shoe with an ultra personalized fit. She is a road and trail runner, hiker, and outdoor enthusiast who prioritizes adventure and spending time with her community.
In this episode we talk about:
-following curiosity in running and business
-gaining confidence to pursue goals and challenges
-Brooke’s company Hilma, creating running shoes with a personalized fit
-behind the scenes of a start-up: funding, profitability, launching, team building and trust
-women in leadership and entrepreneurship
-trade offs in work, athletics, and life
Check out Brooke’s running shoe company Hilma and follow along on Instagram @joinhilma
Follow Brooke on Instagram @brookektorres and For The Long Run @forthelrpod
--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support
Lauren Daniels
Thank you to Lauren Daniels for supporting the podcast. Lauren is a realtor helping buyers and sellers in the Greater Denver-Boulder area. With incredible attention to detail, Lauren helped me find the perfect home right near the trails, and made the whole home buying process as smooth and stress-free as possible. So, if you’re even considering buying a home in this area, I highly recommend working with Lauren. You can reach her at ldaniels@milehimodern.com, and let her know we sent you. Follow Lauren on Instagram @lauren.in.colorado
Goodr
This episode is also brought to you by Goodr. Goodr have the slickest shades around, for only $25 and $35. They don't slip or bounce, and stay on my face way better than more expensive sunglasses.
If you'd like to support me and the show, treat yourself to a pair (or two) and head over to Goodr and get free shipping with the code FTLR. Your face will thank you!

Mar 3, 2023 • 45min
255. Brian Reynolds: Pro Running on Prosthetics
Brian is a double amputee distance runner. He is a husband and father of 3, juggling full time work with training for crazy endurance challenges.
In this episode we talk about:
-running as a double amputee
-gratitude for movement
-redefining limits and what’s possible as a para athlete
-overcoming fear of judgment and perceived constraints
-the importance of para athlete role models and representation
-epic endurance challenges: the 7 summits, Boston marathon, and Leadville ultra marathon
Follow Brian on Instagram @brianreynoldsrunner and For The Long Run @forthelrpod
--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support
Lauren Daniels
Thank you to Lauren Daniels for supporting the podcast. Lauren is a realtor helping buyers and sellers in the Greater Denver-Boulder area. With incredible attention to detail, Lauren helped me find the perfect home right near the trails, and made the whole home buying process as smooth and stress-free as possible. So, if you’re even considering buying a home in this area, I highly recommend working with Lauren. You can reach her at ldaniels@milehimodern.com, and let her know we sent you. Follow Lauren on Instagram @lauren.in.colorado
BolderBoulder
Held in Boulder every Memorial Day, the BolderBoulder 10K is one of the most fun races out there. In order to get even more psyched for this upcoming race, we are hosting some 5Ks here in Boulder, for folks to grab a time to get into a preferred wave. Come out and join us in Boulder for a fun community 5K to come together and get pumped for the BolderBoulder extravaganza. Everyone is welcome!
Join us on Saturday, March 18th at the Left Hand Trailhead at 9 am to get your time trial in. We’ll be giving away some gear from brand partners as well, so you’re not going to want to miss it. Sign up here!
BetterHelp
This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp.
Here at the For The Long Run Podcast, you know we love to talk about the BIGGER stuff, the DEEPER stuff, and get down to the nitty-gritty of what makes life interesting and beautiful. And while a lot of what we talk about on this show is about our physical capabilities, a big part of what we believe in here at the podcast is doing the internal work. And that’s why we’re proudly sponsored by BetterHelp, because, like them, we believe therapy is for everyone. With BetterHelp, you can tap into a network of over 25,000 licensed and experienced therapists who can help you with a wide range of issues.
If you’re ready to do the internal work, go to betterhelp.com/FTLR.

Feb 24, 2023 • 1h 5min
254. Jeffrey Binney: Redefining What A Sponsored Runner Looks Like
Jeffrey is sometimes a runner and sometimes a comedian, always a husband and always a dog and car dad, always adventurous and always hungry.
In this episode we talked about:
-every runner’s story is valid
-every day runner representation
-size inclusion and diversity in running
-imposter syndrome
-white male privilege and racism
-male vulnerability, emotions, and grief
Watch Jeffrey’s film Once Is Enough https://www.amazon.com/Once-Enough-Jeffrey-James-Binney/dp/B085GHM2CB
Follow Jeffrey on Instagram @jeffreybinney and For The Long Run @forthelrpod
--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support
Lauren Daniels
Thank you to Lauren Daniels for supporting the podcast. Lauren is a realtor helping buyers and sellers in the Greater Denver-Boulder area. With incredible attention to detail, Lauren helped me find the perfect home right near the trails, and made the whole home buying process as smooth and stress-free as possible. So, if you’re even considering buying a home in this area, I highly recommend working with Lauren. You can reach her at ldaniels@milehimodern.com, and let her know we sent you. Follow Lauren on Instagram @lauren.in.colorado
BetterHelp
This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp.
Here at the For The Long Run Podcast, you know we love to talk about the BIGGER stuff, the DEEPER stuff, and get down to the nitty-gritty of what makes life interesting and beautiful. And while a lot of what we talk about on this show is about our physical capabilities, a big part of what we believe in here at the podcast is doing the internal work. And that’s why we’re proudly sponsored by BetterHelp, because, like them, we believe therapy is for everyone. With BetterHelp, you can tap into a network of over 25,000 licensed and experienced therapists who can help you with a wide range of issues.
If you’re ready to do the internal work, go to betterhelp.com/FTLR.

Feb 17, 2023 • 52min
253. Nick Thompson: Can High Achievers Be Balanced?
Nick is the CEO of The Atlantic, journalist and former editor of Wired, longtime runner and lover of the sport.
In this episode we talk about:
-the intersection of running and all aspects of life
-the selfishness of running
-running through cancer
-faster with age
-mental training to handle pain
-is a balanced life possible?
Follow Nick on Instagram @nxthompson and For The Long Run @forthelrpod
Find more about Nick at nickthompson.com
--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support
Lauren Daniels
Thank you to Lauren Daniels for supporting the podcast. Lauren is a realtor helping buyers and sellers in the Greater Denver-Boulder area. With incredible attention to detail, Lauren helped me find the perfect home right near the trails, and made the whole home buying process as smooth and stress-free as possible. So, if you’re even considering buying a home in this area, I highly recommend working with Lauren. You can reach her at ldaniels@milehimodern.com, and let her know we sent you. Follow Lauren on Instagram @lauren.in.colorado
Previnex
This episode is also brought to you by Previnex. Previnex makes clinically effective supplements that promote longevity, performance, and every day health, and they donate vitamins to malnourished children with every customer order.
From firsthand experience, I can tell you that Previnex supplements are awesome and flat out work! I highly recommend you check out and try these products for yourself. One of the best parts is that if you don’t experience benefits on any product within 30 days, Previnex has a no questions asked 100% money back guarantee for a full refund. You have no risk and everything to gain here.
Use code FTLR for 15% off your first purchase of any products at previnex.com.
BetterHelp
This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp.
Here at the For The Long Run Podcast, you know we love to talk about the BIGGER stuff, the DEEPER stuff, and get down to the nitty-gritty of what makes life interesting and beautiful. And while a lot of what we talk about on this show is about our physical capabilities, a big part of what we believe in here at the podcast is doing the internal work. And that’s why we’re proudly sponsored by BetterHelp, because, like them, we believe therapy is for everyone. With BetterHelp, you can tap into a network of over 25,000 licensed and experienced therapists who can help you with a wide range of issues.
If you’re ready to do the internal work, go to betterhelp.com/FTLR.