

A Deeper Dive
Restaurant Business Magazine
Restaurant Business is the leading media brand in the commercial foodservice industry, with a focus on entrepreneurship, innovation and growth.
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Dec 10, 2025 • 17min
How AI is helping restaurants with their marketing
AI is already having a big influence on restaurant marketing. This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast A Deeper Dive continues our examination of the impact artificial intelligence is having on restaurant marketing. The technology is having an impact on marketing for everything from local restaurants to major chains.Senior Tech Editor Joe Guszkowski speaks with Khara Mangiduyos, who uses AI to help her restaurant, Kalei’s Kitchenette. He spoke with Bikky cofounder Abhinav Kapur and Presto cofounder Krishna Gupta, who each talk about their AI-based technology. Guszkowski also talks with former Sonic executive Craig Miller about how these can work with a big chain.We’re talking AI in marketing on A Deeper Dive so please check it out.

Dec 3, 2025 • 16min
How AI is helping restaurants in the back of the house
Customers may see AI when they order from their favorite restaurant on an app or in the drive-thru, but the technology’s biggest impact may be behind the scenes.This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast A Deeper Dive continues our examination of the impact AI is having on the restaurant industry. This week’s episode looks at the technology’s impact in the back of the house. Senior Technology Editor Joe Guszkowski looks at the invisible ways that AI is in use in restaurants, including managing inventory and labor, forecasting sales and predicting kitchen needs. We speak with Dan Anfinson, COO of First Watch franchisee Mac Haik Restaurant Group. We also speak with Matt Wampler, cofounder of AI company ClearCOGs, Bruce Harris of Torchy’s Tacos and Khara Mangiduyos of the single-unit Kalei’s Kitchenette in San Diego.We’re looking at AI in the back of the house so please check it out.

Nov 26, 2025 • 31min
AI is playing a bigger role in menu development
AI can’t necessarily make a burger, but it can help learn what kind of burger to put on the menu.In this episode of the Restaurant Business podcast A Deeper Dive, we continue our examination on the impact AI is having on restaurant menu development. The podcast features Christian Frangiatis, the executive chef of One by Spork in Pittsburgh. It also features Jet Tila; Marcus Merritt, the manager of Wiley and Rum, a Cuban-Caribbean fusion restaurant in Atlanta; and Chef Ian Ramirez, the founder of Mad Honey Culinary.The podcast looks at the way they use artificial intelligence in big and subtle ways, from menu development to ingredient purchasing. We’re talking AI and the menu on A Deeper Dive so please check it out.

Nov 19, 2025 • 30min
How AI may, or may not, change the drive-thru
AI is coming for your drive-thru. This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast A Deeper Dive continues our look at the impact of AI in the restaurant industry. This week, we look at the most visible use of AI in the industry, voice-activated drive-thru ordering. A lot of restaurant chains are already using the technology to take orders in the drive-thru and a lot of executives swear by it, saying that it eases tasks for workers and increases sales through suggestive selling.The biggest fast-food chains in the U.S. are looking at the technology in some form or another. But it also has its challenges, and there are at least some indications that drive-thru AI isn’t quite ready for a national rollout. We’re talking drive-thru AI on A Deeper Dive so please check it out.

Nov 12, 2025 • 19min
AI is everywhere, but how can it help restaurants?
AI is everywhere. Software companies bombard you with promises that their AI-powered programs will revolutionize your business. Prognosticators say it will take over roughly everything. And Wall Street, as ever, is watching.Restaurants are certainly no exception. Companies are testing and experimenting with AI in nearly every part of their operation, from the drive-thru to the back of the house, from marketing to the kitchen. This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast A Deeper Dive is the first in a six-part series on AI in the restaurant industry, looking at the ways big and small chains use the technology. We spoke with operators, executives, chefs and others to examine AI in the restaurant industry and its potential impact. This first one takes a broad look at the technology and some of the ways it can be used.

Nov 5, 2025 • 28min
How El Pollo Loco is winning the value-profitability battle
How is El Pollo Loco giving customers value without giving up profits?This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast A Deeper Dive features Liz Williams, CEO of the fast-food chicken chain. El Pollo Loco just reported a decline in same-store sales with an increase in traffic and restaurant-level profits. Generally speaking when customers pay less per order it’s hard to generate profit growth. Williams explains how the company did this.But we talk about a lot of other things, including the company’s development strategy—it just opened its 500th restaurant—and the difficulty of operating in California, especially these days.We also talk about the chain’s plan for beverages and why that’s a huge opportunity. And the company is testing a couple of intriguing chicken products. This is a great conversation with Liz Williams so please check it out.

Oct 30, 2025 • 30min
What is driving consumer weakness right now
Why are consumers less responsive to restaurant marketing right now?This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast A Deeper Dive features Robert Byrne, director of consumer and industry insights with Technomic and a regular podcast guest. We wanted to talk with Byrne about the general state of the industry, mostly because we had this question: Why isn’t anything working?Over the past couple of years, restaurant chains have unleashed more promotions at customers than ever before. They are introducing record numbers of limited-time offers. They have more technology. And the number of deals available to consumers is at record levels. Even fast-casual chains that never before had to push lower prices are doing so.Byrne is an expert on consumer behavior and we talk extensively about what is driving consumers away from restaurants. We discuss consumer concerns about inflation and what they’re thinking when they dine out. In short, consumers’ motivation is a lot different than it was not that long ago.It’s a great conversation on this week’s A Deeper Dive so please check it out.

Oct 22, 2025 • 24min
Why so many consumers are dining on a deal right now
David Portalatin, Senior Vice President and food industry advisor at Circana, dives into the rising trend of deal-seeking among consumers. He reveals that a staggering 29% of restaurant visits are now perceived as bargains, the highest since the Great Recession. The discussion highlights how inflation and higher prices are driving this behavior. Portalatin also examines how consumer needs differ between convenience and experience, and how deal types have evolved to include digital offers and loyalty promotions that cut through the noise.

Oct 15, 2025 • 28min
Why PJ's Coffee cut hundreds of food items from its menu
Why did PJ’s Coffee dramatically cut back on its menu items?This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast A Deeper Dive features David Mesa, the president of PJ’s Coffee of New Orleans. PJ’s has 200 locations and is growing at a healthy clip. Mesa joins the podcast to talk about the company’s rebranding.PJ’s is leaning into its New Orleans heritage with that rebranding, including its menu. Mesa provides the details but here’s one interesting nugget: The company dramatically pared down the number of food items from “hundreds” to 18. We talk about a wide range of other issues, including the state of the beverage sector, which is growing at a very rapid clip. We talk about how PJ’s fits.We also talk about development and the barriers to growth PJ’s is experiencing, including interest rates and competition.We’re talking coffee and beignets on A Deeper Dive so please check it out.

Oct 8, 2025 • 28min
The outlook for the restaurant industry the rest of this year
Rich Shank, a Senior Principal at Technomic, brings his expertise on the restaurant industry's current landscape. He highlights the uneven performance across sectors and emerging concerns regarding consumer spending. With nearly 30% of diners relying on discounts, he delves into the evolving nature of deal-making and the challenges faced by brands like Starbucks. Shank also discusses the impact of demographic shifts and labor availability on future growth. Tune in for an insightful look at the dynamics reshaping the dining experience.


