

Sounds Profitable
Bryan Barletta
The pace of change the podcast industry is undergoing is staggering. The implications for podcasters, hosting providers, podcast listening app developers, and advertisers and agencies are enormous. And so is the growth potential. Presented as a companion to the weekly newsletter of the same name, our podcast provides you with direct access to our narrated articles, interviews with industry experts, bleeding-edge research, and can't miss industry news recaps. That Sounds Profitable, right? Assumptions and conventional wisdom will be challenged. Easy answers with no proof of efficacy will be exposed. Because the thinking that got podcast advertising close to a billion dollars annually will need to be drastically overhauled to bring in the tens or hundreds of billions of dollars podcast advertising deserves.
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Aug 9, 2023 • 10min
The Song of the Summer, and the Joe Rogan Problem
While podcasting has had several 'song of the summer' moments since Serial's smash success in 2014, in recent years those mainstream attention-getting moments are dominated by one polarizing figure. Written by Tom WebsterEdited by Bryan BarlettaAudio edited by Gavin GaddisAssembled with Spooler.fmHosted by ART19Sounds Profitable: Narrated Articles is a production of Sounds Profitable. For more information, visit soundsprofitable.com.

Aug 8, 2023 • 5min
The Download for August 8th, 2023
Here's what you need to know for today in the business of podcasting: “True potential” in Sirius XM podcast biz by Brad HillWhy concerns of influencer marketing oversaturation are overblown by Kristina MonllosWhen Podcast Apps Miss The Mark by Steve GoldsteinHow soft is the ad market, really? By Ryan Barwick…as for the rest of the news: Eric Nuzum reflects on what makes a good podcast host, Sean Howard explains yield optimization and what it means for podcasting in Flightpath, and Forbes covered a new QCODE audio drama starring Chris Pine and Troian Bellisario.

Aug 7, 2023 • 4min
The Download for August 7th, 2023
Here's what you need to know in the business of podcasting for August 7th. Why some publishers are reducing their podcast slate to try to grow their audio businessesMagnite And FreeWheel Link Up In The Name Of InteroperabilityAcast to focus on automation to ‘create value’ for advertisersTop 3 podcasts in U.S. remain the same over two yearsThe Media Rating Council is angling for better clarity in an era of compounding complexityAnd for the rest of the news… Digiday’s new Media Briefing presents the case for, and against, paid subscription trials. Digital subscriptions are a bright spot in otherwise down Q2 for Gannett. And, in a surprising turn after announcing their partnership with Spotify, ad group WPP cut their full-year growth forecast from 3 to 5% down to 1.5 to 3%, citing low spending from tech clients and delays in tech-related projects.

Aug 4, 2023 • 7min
Audio Ads Outperform Video for Attention & 2 Other Stories
This week's stories: Audio Ads Outperform Video for Attention and Brand Recall, Dentsu Study Finds. The ad slowdown (or lack thereof) gives the industry reason to hopethe kids podcast listener reportQuick Hits: Introducing The Download by Bryan BarlettaThe Download is now a daily podcast, covering news important to the business of podcasting Monday through Thursday, with the usual weekly recap continuing on Fridays. NAVA posts info for SAG-AFTRA strike.The National Association of Voice Actors has released a one-sheet clarifying what types of work NAVA actors can or cannot do during the SAG-AFTRA strike. SiriusXM is betting big on its next-gen app by Amrita KhalidThe much-teased new SiriusXM app is set to debut this fall and was brought up during the recent Q2 earnings call.WPP & Spotify Announce First-of-its-Kind Global PartnershipBritish communications and advertising holding company WPP is now in a global strategic partnership with Spotify to give its clients access to Spotify’s ad products and scaling capabilities.

Aug 3, 2023 • 4min
The Download for August 3rd, 2023
Here's what you need to know for Thursday, August 3rd.Inside Audio Marketing - Katz: Target Consumers With Messages That Relate To Where They Listen To Radio.RainNews - Quantifying brand marketing uncertainties and risks, Veritonic says audio is paramountSpotify - WPP & Spotify Announce First-of-its-Kind Global PartnershipMediaPost - TV 'Ad Intolerant' Viewers Still In The Minority, Study Finds

Aug 2, 2023 • 4min
The Download for August 2nd, 2023
Here's what you need to know for Wednesday, August 2nd. Podcast Company Realm Acquires Kid-Focused Pinna as Industry Consolidates by Ashley CarmanSiriusXM is betting big on its next-gen app by Amrita KhalidGood Karma Brands to run operations, sales for ESPN Radio by Andrew BucholtAs strikes halt Hollywood projects, the TV ad industry is on the line by Kelsey SuttonFuture of TV Briefing: How top streamers’ ad prices have trended in this year’s upfront negotiations by Tim Peterson

Aug 2, 2023 • 9min
Introducing The Download
Bryan announces the newest evolution of The Download: a daily newsletter covering the essential news for the business of podcasting.Credits:Written by Bryan BarlettaEdited by Tom WebsterAudio edited by Gavin GaddisAssembled with Spooler.fmHosted by ART19Sounds Profitable: Narrated Articles is a production of Sounds Profitable. For more information, visit soundsprofitable.com.

Aug 1, 2023 • 4min
The Download for August 1st, 2023
This is The Download from Sounds Profitable, your daily source for the essential news of the business of podcasting, brought to you by Spreaker from iHeart. Here’s what you need to know for today, Tuesday August 1st. AdAge - Audio Ads Outperform Video for Attention and Brand Recall, Dentsu Study Finds. The study was conducted by Lumen and commissioned by Dentsu, with Amazon Ads, Cumulus Media, iHeartMedia, Spotify, and SXM Media participating. 41% of audio ads generated correct brand recall in follow-up surveys, a 3% increase over the norm for other forms of advertising Dentsu keeps track of. Compared to digital, social, and TV benchmarks, podcasts held listeners’ attention for more seconds per thousand impressions.Inside Audio Marketing - Podcast Listeners Spending More Time With Medium As Digital Audio Usage Rises.New eMarketer graphs show daily time spent with podcasts by adult podcast listeners has increased from 44 minutes in 2021 to 51 minutes this year. eMarketer’s forecast predicts that number will grow at slower percentage rates in coming years, but will still hit 56 minutes by 2025. The overall average daily digital audio consumption is one hour and 52 minutes. LibSyn - Podcast Advertising RatesAdvertiseCast has updated their monthly tracker of podcast CPM rates. July’s average between all three tracked audience sizes is $22.24 for a 60 second spot, a 3.6% decrease from June and continuing a downward trend since May’s price of $23.50. Still, it’s holding above the lowest point from the doldrums of Q1 when February’s average hit $21.99.Digiday - Fortune cookies, the Sphere and more: How advertisers are taking OOH beyond billboardsOut of home advertising is evolving, including digital taxi toppers, ad-supported fortune cookie messages, and the $2.3 billion Sphere in Las Vegas. Some agencies have leaned into intentionally outlandish/evocative OOH campaigns to generate online buzz and have found success. Podcasting has had some success with similar OOH campaigns, including billboards for Slow Burn’s season on an abortion rights case that specifically run in states proposing abortion rights rollbacks. eMarketer - YouTube CTV spending jumped 31% last quarter, outpacing streamersAccording to agency Tinuiti, spending on YouTube’s connected TV ads jumped 31% in Q1 while services like Max and Netflix only experienced 6% growth. Hulu charts in the lead on CTV ad revenue on eMarketer’s 2023 chart with 3.63 billion, followed by YouTube at 2.89 billion and Roku at 2.19 billion. The fastest-growing CTV presence is now also the most popular location for audiences to consume podcasts.Be sure to check out the links to every article mentioned right in your podcast listening app, or at SoundsProfitable.com, where you can also subscribe to the newsletter version.The Download is written and produced by Bryan Barletta, Gavin Gaddis, and Tom Webster. It’s assembled in Spooler and hosted on Art19. For Sounds Profitable, I’m Tom Webster - Download us again tomorrow!

Jul 28, 2023 • 8min
Podcast Listeners Likely Skip Radio Ads & 2 Other Stories
Stories covered: The Fully-Produced Podcast Ad: Are we leaving attention on the table?Spotify's Q2 Earnings CallYour favorite TV rewatch podcast is here to stay - but don’t expect any new ones. Quick Hits: Only Be Kind by Tom WebsterThis week, Tom writes about the legacy of Frank Cody and a life philosophy he brought to radio that podcasting would do well to implement: Only be kind.NewsGuard Launches 'Made-For-Advertising' Service In Response To ANA Study by Joe MandeseTo combat the rising issue of made-for-advertising sites siphoning programmatic ads, NewsGuard has introduced the ability to create whitelists of non-MFA sites and blacklists to exclude known MFA content.Audio Amplified: Harnessing the Power of Branded PodcastsThe new white paper from Quill focuses on the utility of branded podcasts as high-value content that resonates with audiences, establishes trust, and positions creators as industry leaders.Veritonic and Acast Partner to Highlight What Success Sounds Like Around the World for Podcast Ads Bought ProgrammaticallyNew research from the two companies compares and contrasts of audio creatives from programmatic campaigns around the world.

Jul 26, 2023 • 11min
Only Be Kind
Tom Webster reflects on the life of someone important to both him and audio in general, as well as a valuable lesson we can learn from how he thought about life. Written by Tom WebsterEdited by Bryan BarlettaAssembled with Spooler.fmHosted by ART19Sounds Profitable: Narrated Articles is a production of Sounds Profitable. For more information, visit soundsprofitable.com.