

A Thousand Natural Shocks With Gabe S. Dunn
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After years of attempting to "girlboss" his way out of systemic class divide, Gabriel Shane Dunn, now a trans man and veteran podcaster, relaunches his show, “Bad With Money,” with a furious, funny, and deeply personal exploration of surviving our capitalist hellscape. Ditching conventional finance advice, “A Thousand Natural Shocks,” is a companion show to Gabe’s thriving newsletter of the same name. This isn't just about money; it's about breaking free from the individualistic lies and fighting for collective liberation. Capitalism is killing us. The police state is killing us. Fascism is killing us. But we can no longer feel helpless. We can resist.Send a question or voice memo to GabeIsBadWithMoney@gmail.com.
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Jul 14, 2021 • 48min
Neurodivergence & Money
This week, Gaby interviews Autism advocate and technology executive Nicola Whiting about her own diagnosis, neurodiversity in the workplace, disability and neurodivergent accommodations, and the ways neuroatypical people view money differently than neurotypical people. What can employers do better to have a neurodiverse workplace? How can neurodivergent people better advocate for themselves? Then, Gaby interviews their own partner Mal Blum, a musician with ADHD, about the ways their relationship functions around both Mal's ADHD and Gaby's bipolar disorder.
For a transcript of the show: https://bit.ly/BadwithMoneyS8E2Transcript
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Follow Nicola Whiting on Twitter: @CyberGoGiver
Check out Nicola's website: NicolaWhiting.com
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Check out Mal's website: MalBlum.com
Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia.
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Jul 7, 2021 • 44min
Money, Misinformation, Crime & Conspiracy
Welcome to Season 8! This season we're doing things a little differently: each episode, we're going to talk to both experts and to friends of mine with lived experience in the same topic. Get to know me, get to know my buddies from my real life! Our first topic is monetizing fake news, data voids, and how ads work for Facebook and Google misinformation. Gaby talks to MIT Review reporter Abby Ohlheiser about how people make millions of dollars -- merch, speaker fees, Patreons, etc. -- by spreading misinformation. Then, Gaby interviews their friends Ali Segel and Melissa Stetten, co-hosts of the conspiracy theory podcast Web Crawlers, about ethically profiting from crime and conspiracy. Plus, why Flat Earthers are ~the worst!~
This episode includes discussion of suicide, child porn, cults, police, Alex Jones, transphobia, medical conspiracies, and conspiracies surrounding school shootings. Please take care while listening.
For a transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qcgPGuEFw_XBI_4amr9qs1cWuXLsKzb5a_ZwNx26euY/
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Follow Abby Ohlheiser on Twitter: @AbbyOhlheiser
Follow Ali Segal on Twitter: @OnlineAlison
Follow Ali Segal on Instagram: @AliBaby90
Follow Melissa Stetten on Twitter: @MelissaStetten
Follow Melissa Stetten on Instagram @MelissaStetten
Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia.
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Jun 16, 2021 • 42min
The LGBTQ Economy: MV Lee Badgett
Happy Pride! In the finale of Season 7, Gaby talks to professor, economist and author Lee Badgett about the financial and economic case for LGBTQ equality, the harmful myths about queer people and money (and the choice to focus all research on white, cis, gay men), and about Gaby's own reticence to engage with ending homophobia and transphobia through capitalism and corporate policy. It's a doozy of differing opinions! And in the end, it's probably all Will & Grace's fault. Then, a Dear Gaby with some Bad With Money book promotion and some interesting criticism AND love for Gaby's voice. Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
This episode contains discussions of homophobia, transphobia, bullying, and suicide. Please take care while listening.
For a transcript of the show: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TFYFi14vUKoRaV0zCnfH9JP2A7QlRpZBM1Fpjqme1_k/edit
Link to get Lee's book: https://www.leebadgett.com/theeconomiccase
Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBadgett
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Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia.
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Jun 9, 2021 • 46min
Happiness & Money: Dr. Laurie Santos
Dr. Laurie Santos joins Gaby to discuss NOT whether money buys happiness (it does!) but rather what science shows us we should also be focusing on for happiness, why the human brain is designed to be bad with money, and what happened when monkeys were taught to buy treats with currency. Also, the curse of the lottery. Then, on Dear Gaby, a listener writes in about receiving a raise after discovering gender pay inequity at work and how she is using it for good. And, listener Casey calls in to ask about ethically investing an unexpected inheritance.
More information on the teacher's pensions in Parkland being invested in guns: https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/02/21/florida-teacher-pension-fund-owns-528000-in-shares-of-ar-15-manufacturer/
Trigger warning: Brief mention of suicide. Take care while listening.
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
For a transcript of the episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z3mRd3WwRRZsBsOhF7YbQltEfDrdE0bmD4GXotVOqDs/edit
Follow Dr. Laurie Santos on Instagram: @LaurieSantosOfficial
Check out Pushkin Pods on Instagram: @PushkinPods
Follow Dr. Laurie Santos on Twitter: @LaurieSantos
Check out The Happiness Lab: HappinessLab.fm
Check out Pushkin Pods: @Pushkin Pods
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Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia.
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Jun 2, 2021 • 35min
Building Wealth: Hillary Hoffower
This week, Gaby and Hillary Hoffower, the Millennial wealth correspondent for Business Insider, talk about building and maintaining wealth, new rural home-buying, and the solitary leisure investment hobbies of the nostalgic rich. PS: It's the pogs and Tamagotchis for me. Then, during Dear Gaby, a listener shares their acceptance into a teaching and Masters program and how they met their goals during the pandemic by focusing on the specifics. And finally, a VERY interesting email about work dress codes and if they are equitable, ethical and financially feasible. Do you have a work dress code? Do you think it's fair?
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
Find a transcript of the show here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tms644CZL9aiYeZvORizof7WKJ6l8MAaw_2hhsjPMNM/edit
Follow Hillary on Twitter: @Hillary_Tweets
Follow Hillary's work at www.businessinsider.com/author/hillary-hoffower !
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Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia.
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May 26, 2021 • 41min
Tips from the Budgetnista: Tiffany Aliche
You all asked for it so Gaby finally relented. We talk finally budgeting with The Budgetnista Tiffany Aliche of the Brown Ambition podcast. How can you budget in a capitalist world? Tiffany shares her relatable stories of fucking up, budgeting in a tangible way, and what to prioritize. This is budgeting with non shaming steps, baby. Count how many times Gaby says “Wow!” Then, a listener calls in to talk about changing careers to teach financial empowerment. Another lets us in on why tax code is so complicated and finally a lovely review. Call us at 844 474 4040 and leave a review at Apple podcasts! It really helps the show! Love y’all!
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com !
Find a transcript of the show here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MxZW1hl38lPE7tEF-ZCTCJWP1D0nE1SG4LM0kHLB3Bk/edit
Check out Tiffany's book "Get Good with Money" here: getgoodwithmoney.com
Check out Gaby's book "Bad with Money" here: www.amazon.com/Bad-Money-Imperfect-Financial-Together/dp/1501176331
Follow Tiffany on Twitter: @TheBudgetnista
Follow TIffany on Instagram: @TheBudgetnista
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Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia.
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May 19, 2021 • 37min
Financial Trauma: Chloe B. McKenzie
Wealth justice activist Chloe B. McKenzie joins Gaby to talk about Gen Z's mental and emotional health, financial trauma, and how to heal from long-term economic violence. Then, a listener gives a review that is a baffling journey from start to finish. If you like the show, leave a review and it might get read on air!
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
Trigger warning: This episode contains discussion of trauma, suicide, and racism. Please take care while listening.
Find a transcript of the show here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMK-K5a41g1w__s-xT-u43TeNmKhy6KK_W-8sMEffCg/edit
Follow Chloe on Instagram @ChloeBMcKenzie
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Find Chloe's books, diary and research at www.ChloeBMcKenzie.com
The Propublica article by Alec McGillis mentioned: https://www.propublica.org/article/the-lost-year-what-the-pandemic-cost-teenagers
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May 12, 2021 • 39min
WFH and Wages: Najah Farley
Gaby is joined this week by the brilliant and delightful Najah Farley of the National Employment Law Project to talk about working from home, essential workers, and fighting for a living wage. How has work changed for the better or worse since the pandemic started? What can you do to protect yourself financially and emotionally? Plus, some hilarity involving the state of Florida and "your white co-worker Meghan." Have we mentioned that Najah is an incredible guest? Then, Gaby hears from listeners who have started their own small businesses all about their motivations, struggles, and successes. For more awesome businesses by Bad With Money listeners, see the links below!
Bad with Money Listener Small Businesses:
Fleshpot - www.etsy.com/shop/FLESHPOT/
Drawmaturgy - www.drawmaturgy.etsy.com
Covention - www.DearQueerie.wixsite.com
Matisse DuPont - www.matissedupont.com
Solilo and Co - www.soliloandco.etsy.com/
Caveat NYC - www.caveat.nyc/
Rexington Funk - www.rexingtonfunk.com/
THE SHORTLIST - www.shortlistshop.com.au/
Dizzie - www.dizzie.co.nz/
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
For a transcript of the show here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1upSYsj9aRaL1lNNAEZ5vATaW0c22AII6mNtuAdPti8A/edit
Follow NELP on Twitter: @NELPNews
Follow Najah on Twitter: @NajahFarley
Find Najah on LinknedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/najah-farley-she-her-728b736
Here are some NELP publications on the issues we discussed:
On retaliation and wage theft: https://www.nelp.org/publication/exposing-wage-theft-without-fear/
On the Raise the Wage Act and the $15 minimum wage: https://www.nelp.org/publication/u-s-needs-15-minimum-wage/
The yearly report on raises across the country: https://www.nelp.org/publication/raises-from-coast-to-coast-in-2021/
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May 5, 2021 • 44min
Cancel Rent: Ana Diaz Casos
Ana Diaz Casos, president of Tenants and Workers United, joins Gaby to talk about housing as a human right, rent striking, the consequences of mass evictions, and how even resources and protections are hard to access. Then, we hear from a listener who felt prepped for the pandemic because of the pod, and someone who doesn't agree with all our guests or even Gaby, but likes the show a whole lot anyway.
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
Find a transcript of the show here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I-IZBTIoj7e779uN5G5qAvKYvoMOGPvkYlXONBoGjGk/edit
Follow Tenants and Workers on Instagram: @TenantsAndWorkers
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Apr 28, 2021 • 42min
Mutual Aid: Elle Moxely with Marsha P. Johnson Institute
Gaby and Elle Moxely***, the co-founder of the Marsha P. Johnson Institute, discuss mutual aid, how the Black transgender community responded so quickly to Covid, and the ways we can help remodel society into a less individualistic, more communally beneficial place. It was an honor to have her as my guest. Please donate to the Marsha P. Johnson Institute here: https://marshap.org/donate/
Then, Gaby reads a listener email about surviving on charity during the pandemic and goes through some of your Apple reviews on what the show has taught you.
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
***In this interview you will hear Elle Moxely referred to as Elle Hearns. This interview was pre-recorded and Elle has since changed her name and social handles.
Find a transcript of the show here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XCLL_FAQN5FEhjjySPG5_8Gz3JD21lY-IltctEorQic/edit
Follow Elle Moxely on Instagram: @Elle_Moxely
Follow Elle Moxely on Twitter: @Elle_Moxely
Watch for Elle's new website: www.elle-moxley.com
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