

Sean White‘s Solar and Energy Storage Podcast
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Sean White teaches solar and storage classes and seminars around the world and inside your home (online). He is known for helping people get NABCEP certified. This podcast contains an assortment of topics, with an emphasis on solar and storage technical knowledge. Up your game! Catch a photon! Save the planet! Learn more and go to www.solarSEAN.com
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Apr 29, 2024 • 39min
Eicke Weber: Hermann Scheer's 80th BD 4/29/1944 (Scheer founded the solar revolution)
Hermann Scheer (RIP) was a German politician who is responsible for making grid-connected solar profitable in about the year 2000 as he brought the German policy for reimbursing people for solar energy, so that they would make a profit. This brought about years where over half of the World’s installed PV was in Germany. This created the modern solar industry and kick-started modern PV manufacturing. If it were not for Hermann Scheer, we would probably be 10 years behind where we are now with PV
prices and installed capacity. Eicke Weber was a friend of Hermann Scheer and Eicke was also the director of the Fraunhofer Institute for Solar Energy Systems for 10 years, which is the European equivalent of NREL. Eicke brought Intersolar to San Francisco, he was on UC Berkely Faculty and has done a million other things, while remaining a really nice person. I am proud to call Eicke a friend.
Topics Covered:
Hermann Sheer’s Legacy www.ilsr.org/hermann-scheers-feed-tariff-legacy-75-worlds-solar-pv/
Bill Brooks www.brooksolar.com
Fraunhofer Institute for Solar Energy Systems www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en
Madam Mi
Fusion
National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) www.NREL.gov
Governor Jerry Brown
California Solar Initiative (CSI)
SNEC World’s Largest Renewable Energy Conference www.pv.snec.org.cn
Nancy and George Lightman
Hans-Josef www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Josef_Fell
Swanson’s Law
Feed in Tariff (FIT)
Sultan Al Jaber
Irena www.IRENA.org
International Solar Energy Society (ISES) www.ises.org
PV manufacturing in China
Deng Xiaoping
IRA
John Kerry
Deng Xiaoping
CO2
PV Technology and Market Developments
Global Shifts in Energy Policy
Clean Tech Business Club www.cleantechbusiness.club
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking
Sean’s classes at www.heatspring.com/sean

Apr 28, 2024 • 1h 11min
Solar Roots with Jeff Spies
Where do we start, in this podcast we covered many things and Jeff Spies is very active and connected in the solar industry.
Here is a short list of what Jeff does and has done:
Owner of Planet Plansets www.planetplansets.com
NABCEP Board of Directors www.nabcep.org/about-us/board-of-directors
CALSSA Board of Directors www.calssa.org
Solar Roots, the Pioneers of PV Documentary, Executive Producer www.solar-roots.com
The Solar Panel Podcast www.linkedin.com/company/the-solar-panel-podcast
Here are some of the many topics we covered:
Solar PV origin in Humboldt and Mendocino Counties in Northern California
Marijuana wars with guns in Northern California: solar using weed growers vs. the Feds
Hippie Definition
Rednecks and Hippies
Hipnecks
AEE Solar
David Katz is a genius
DC Power
Solar Depot
Real Goods
Solar Living Institute
Ironridge
Quickmount
Stuart Wentworth
Claudia Hansen Wentworth
Johnny Weiss
Go Green Solar
Home Power Magazine
Humboldt Country
Nika Show
Oregon Solar Energy Industry
Boogy rough cut version
Plastics
Blue grass
Solar Pioneer Party
Bell Labs
BriceLand, CA
Brian Tittlebaum
Solar PV Magic
Nobel Prize
Solar Pioneers group in Facebook
John Burdner
Brian Teitelbaum
Davey Rittner
Jason Vetterli
Wendy Dankof
Gov. Jerry Brown
Bob McKee
Joseph Marino
Keisha
Johnny Hill
Sam Vanderhoof
Ron Kennedy
John Schaefer
Arthur Rudin
Ezra Auerbach
Richard Perez
Bob O. Schultz
Kathleen Schultz
Mark Moroz
Charlie Gay
Albert Einstein
Edmund Becquerel
Adams and Day
Charles Fritz
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.heatspring.com/sean

Apr 21, 2024 • 45min
American Battery Factory President John Kem
This is my first interview with a real US Military General and I am honored that he took the time to meet with me. I am not worthy!
John Kem is in the civilian sector now and is the President of American Battery Factory! In this podcast we discuss their huge Gigafactory, which they are building in Arizona and which will go online towards the end of 2025 making made in the USA lithium iron phosphate (LFP) lithium-ion batteries. They are working on prismatic battery cells, which are as big as 1kWh each! In the podcast we talk about the manufacturing processes and how the battery materials are put together in a factory that can produce 4GWh per year of battery cells.
Topics covered:
American Battery Factory
Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP)IRA = Inflation Reduction Act
Army Corps of Engineers
Civil WorksMining
Battery cell production and safety
Investment and manufacturing scale of American Battery Factory
The process and challenges of battery cell manufacturing
Battery factory
American Lithium Mining
Cobalt in the Congo
Gigafactory
Abundance and toxicity of Lithium, Iron and Phosphorous
Big Battery Cell
Folding Cells
Prismatic Battery Cell
314 Ah cells x 3.2V = 1kWh/cell
Half of a shoebox size cell
Bigger is better
Pouch and cylindrical battery cell comparison
Prismatic folding speed increased
Longer cycle life
Fiji Water bottle shape comparison
Chemical Mixing
Anode and Cathode layers
Thin coating
Isotropic graphite = consistent shape
Narrow film
LFP is the cathode
LFP mix in vats
Absorption capacity for ions to flow
Buy pre-mixed LFP
Separator between anode and cathode
Foils
Cans - Aluminum
Food can people making battery can for prismatic battery (cell casing)
Stationary Energy Storage Systems
Smart grid
Underground mining operations
Drag racing and LFP
Range anxiety
Home to GWh ESS
Tax credit survival vs. competitive manufacturing
Made in America with Chinese parts
Smartest people in the world come to America
Energy storage is required for net zero
Investing and buying American Battery Factory
Privately held now
Series A and Series B funding defined
Accredited investors and venture capital
Check out the American Battery Factory website: www.americanbatteryfactory.com
For good luck, give this podcast 5️s
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.heatspring.com/sean

Apr 14, 2024 • 1h 7min
Joe McCabe American Solar Energy Society (ASES) Fellow, historical figure and a lot more!
Joe McCabe has been in the solar industry since before there was a solar industry. In this podcast we talk about many things.
Here is a list of topics:
ASES Fellow
American Solar Energy Society www.ASES.org
International Solar Energy Society www.ISES.org
MREA = Midwest Renewable Energy Association
SMUD = Sacramento Municipal Utility District
PVUSA Davis California
PV Policy
SAM software
PV Reliability Workshop Nerdfest
Golden Colorado
SANDIA
Community Solar Gardens
Bifacial Solar<
Vertical Bifacial produces more than tilted south no matter what the direction
Higher latitude better for vertical bifacial
Vertical bifacial requires smaller wires because of lower Isc
Clipping
Hanging vertical bifacial to swing in the wind.
North facing PV for used PV
PV module size increasing
PV efficiency not important; LCOE (levelized cost of electricity) is important.
Monofacial
Agrivoltaics
Agrisoltaics
Dual use of land
Mark Fitzgerald
Jane Wiseman
IREC = Interstate Renewable Energy Council
NABCEP Entry Level
Praise Ward Bower!
George Kelly
NREL
NABCEP Exam Committees
Photovoltaic effect
Conduction band
Photoelectric effect
Becquerel
Einstein
Quantum mechanics
Thermodynamics
Nuclear engineering
Schrödinger’s equation
Straw bale construction
SERF = Solar Energy Research Facility
SERI = Solar Energy Research Institute
Neutron Scatter
Cadmium rods
Neutron magazine
Smart Inverter Working Group
Dan Shugar
Howard Wenger
PG&E
PV for $9/watt in 90s
Richard Swanson and Swanson’s curve
Colorado Public Utilities Commission
CALISO
California Independent System Operator
BIPV
California Energy Commission (CEC)
Community Solar Garden
Solar Shares
Stupid grid vs. smart grid
Grid following and grid forming inverters
Reactive power
Rule 21 Smart Inverter Working Group
Smart Inverter Classes
Hermann Scherr
Frieberg Germany
Smarter E in Munich (formerly Intersolar)
Intersolar in San Diego and Long Beach
RE+ conferences
Making education fun
University of Arizona Reactor
How PV works
Photons
Grid Forming and Grid Following Inverters
Donating a kidney to Bill Brooks
Freiburg Germany
NABCEP Certification
Energy Ideas
Renewable Energy Steward
Giant Bifacial module
Joe Mccabe recommends Bill Brooks on LinkedIn
Blue light inside a reactor
Integrated Resource Plan (IRP)
Carl Weinberg
Paul Fenn
Community Choice Aggregation = CCA
Eicke Weber
RE+ Texas
Sean Sings ABC 123 at NABCEP Conference
Homework Assignment read: Leverage Points, Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows
Joe McCabe LinkedIn Page
Joe’s email: energyideas@gmail.com
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.heatspring.com/sean

Apr 7, 2024 • 51min
Bidirectional EVs with Alex Cattelan, COO Fermata Energy and UL 9741 EV Power Export Equipment
In this podcast, we learn how UL issues first certification to UL 9741 (and UL 1741 SA) for an AI-Driven Vehicle-to-Grid Compliant EV Charger to Fermata Energy.
https://www.ul.com/news/ul-solutions-issues-first-certification-ul-9741-and-ul-1741-sa-ai-driven-vehicle-grid
Alex Cattelan has been working on EVs for 2 decades and has experience engineering many famous electric and hybrid vehicles, including the Chevy Volt for GM. She also has extensive experience working for Polaris, Johnson Controls and many others.
At the end we decide to go to Burning Man together on a bidirectional electric bus and she is going to teach me how to do wheelies on an electric motorcycle. Nothing can compete with the torque of electric motors, much more than those old fashioned explosion driven motors.
Here are some of the topics we cover:
UL 9741 EVPE (Electric Vehicle Power Export Equipment)
John Deere EVs
AI for EVPE
Software engineering
Drive trains
Electric vehicles
Nissan Leaf
Chevy Volt
Lithium-ion batteries
Hybrid
EPA (U.S. Environmental Protection Agency)
Mechanical Drivetrain
CO2
UL 9741 & UL 1741
VPP (Virtual Power Plant)
Cost Savings
Public utility commission (PUC)
Stationary Storage
Nissan Leaf
Nissan Kicks
Bidirectional charging
Commercial fleets
Bus fleet
Johnson Controls
Pop a Wheelie
Ford F-150
Cyber Truck
Tesla
Developing Software
AI Driven Data Science
Residential bidirectional chargers
Check out Alex on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/alexandra-cattelan-59abbb11
Email: alex.catelan@fermataenegy.com
Check out the Fermata website: https://fermataenergy.com
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.HeatSpring.com/Sean

Mar 31, 2024 • 55min
Garret Little, NABCEP PVIP - Garret just passed his NABCEP exam!!! Celebrate!!!
One week before recording this podcast, Garret Little passed his NABCEP PVIP exam, scoring impressively after nine years since his first attempt. In this episode, we discuss his exam experience, memory techniques, and the differences between the Ecotech and HeatSpring prep classes. Garret shares insights on what’s essential for passing exams and highlights the NABCEP courses available.
Garret also brings his international experience, having installed PV systems in Nepal and Colombia.
Topics Covered:
Exam prep and strategies
NABCEP certifications (PVIP, ESIP, PVA, and more)
Online vs. in-person testing
Memory techniques and learning methods
Insights from Garret’s exam journey
Garret expresses his gratitude to Sean for the impactful HeatSpring courses that helped boost his confidence and knowledge:
This course really covered everything I experienced on the exam and in all honesty, to me it seemed it presented quite a bit more information and material than the NABCEP covered, at least from my experience . For example, I don't think I had one string sizing question, conduit fill, or even conductor sizing with derates (if my memory serves me right). It was not nearly as much calculations as I had anticipated, aside from interconnection calcs, which were all fairly similar.
With that being said, I feel tremendously more knowledgeable than I was even just a few months ago prior to taking this course and I am so thankful for that. Thank you again so much for working with Heatspring on these courses to provide such thorough, entertaining, and educational content. It feels so incredibly good to not only have passed the exam, but to feel that much more educated.
To prepare for any NABCEP exam, check out Sean's online classes at HeatSpring.com/SEAN and explore more at SolarSEAN.com.

Mar 24, 2024 • 55min
derek the solarboi, the TikTok and YouTube Sensation!!
I came across a really cool YouTube video, rivaling Mr. Beast, but for solar, which was a purple bearded solarboi going off on Rapid Shutdown UL 3741 PV arrays, I immediately contacted him and a week later, here we are recording this podcast. This guy is entertaining and we are lucky to have him in the industry. This industry needs to be fun!!
derek the solarboi has 3 NABCEP Certifications
PVIP (PV Installation Professional)
PVCMS (PV Commissioning and Maintenance Specialist)
PVSI (PV System Inspector)
Altogether that looks like:
derek the solarboi, NABCEP PVIP, PVCMS & PVSI
That is a total of 18 letters after his name, making him super special!
We talk about some controversial subjects, including Rapid Shutdown and I always try to be bifacial and take both sides for educational purposes, but encourage my guests to have strong opinions. If you have a strong opinion, let’s get you on the show!
Here are some of the topics we covered:
Other rad solar creators, like Solar Goat (https://linktr.ee/solargoat) and The Solar Slayer (https://thesolarslayer.com/)
Rapid shutdown methods
UL 3741 PVHCS (PV Hazard Control Systems)
Array level rapid shutdown
2019 NEC (serious joke)
NABCEP Certifications
Social media
Water flow in conduit
DC arc faults and ground faults
Ironridge (press release and installation addendum can be found here: (https://www.ironridge.com/2024/02/27/flush-mount-systems-listed-to-ul-3741/)
Sollega
SMA
Residential UL 3741 (solarboi’s video
Peter Greenberg the String Inverter Activist
RE+
Purple
solarboi has decided to remain anonymous for this podcast. This is really cool, my first anonymous guest!
You can see all of solarboi’s links at www.solarboi.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@derekthesolarboi
Mastodon: https://mastodon.energy/@solarboi
TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@thesolarboi
Instagram: https://instagram.com/thesolarboi
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.HeatSpring.com/Sean

Mar 17, 2024 • 48min
Tyler Hortin of Lion Energy-A Lithium-Ion Energy Storage Company
Great conversation with Tyler Hortin! His company does everything from Wh to GWh and focuses on prismatic cells that are almost 1kWh! This makes for less cells and less connections that can go wrong. The technology here is Lithium-Iron Phosphate (LFP) and we will talk about the supply chain and implications of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA). They are affiliated with American Battery Factory, so we talk a little bit about manufacturing in the USA towards the end.
Key Words:
Lithium Iron Phosphate
Prismatic Battery Cell
Battery Manufacturing in the USA
How he get the Iron
LPF
Lithium (L)
Iron (FE)
Phosphorus (P)
Great Salt Lake
Battery management system (BMS)
Marine Battery
NMC
Alternator
DC to DC Charger
Shore Power
Energy Storage System
UL 9540 & 9540A
DC Interconnected System
Cabinet size
American Battery Factory
How long does it take to build a battery factory?
Check out Tyler on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-hortin-90469945/
Check out his website:
https://lionenergy.com
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.HeatSpring.com/Sean

Mar 10, 2024 • 1h 25min
Tor "Solar Fred" Valenza of Probably True Solar Stories Podcast
Tor "Solar Fred" Valenza is a regular in the solar industry. Tor has a podcast called Probably True Solar Stories, which takes his expertise as a former Hollywood writer and merges that with the solar industry. Some of his Hollywood work was on popular shows, such as Stargate SG-1, Dharma & Greg, and The Dead Zone. Tor's current day job is he is a chief solar public relations geek at UnThink Solar, a solar PR and communications firm.
In this podcast we talk about how Tor Valenza became Solar Fred and how he made stories about solar.
Topics covered:
The history of branding about Solar Fred
How his fascination in solar energy began as a kid in NYC Central Park
Solar on the White House
Sungevity
Danny Kennedy
Solar Head of State
Great way to promote solar
Probably True Solar Stories Podcast
Murder by Solar Drone
President of the US as a solar installer
The 6000 Year Story of Solar Energy book by John Perlin
Clean nuclear power being used as a disguise for a nuclear weapons program
Solar installation war (Green War).
Nuclear bros
Energy deep state
Sean almost killed by carbon monoxide as a kid
Solar makes you the most money<
Steam turbines for solar PV energy storage with hot rocks
www.powermag.com/volcanic-rock-offers-new-take-on-energy-storage
Agrivoltaics
CSP = Concentrated Solar Power
Cadmium Telluride
Recycle, Reuse and Reduce
Solar feasibility on the north side of the roof
Solar wedding at a Tweet Up at SPI
Check out Tor on Linkedin:
linkedin.com/in/tor-solar-fred-valenza-3150015
Check out his website:
www.unthinksolar.com
Here is where to find Tor's Podcast:
www.probablytruesolar.com/
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.HeatSpring.com/Sean

Mar 1, 2024 • 46min
Solar Energy and Policy Entrepreneurship: a Discussion with Erica Goldman, Alice Wu, and Zoë Brouns of the Federation of American Scientists
In this episode we are triple fortunate to have three of the smartest individuals in a discussion on science and policy from the Federation of American Scientists (fas.org), a nonpartisan think tank connecting scientific research with policy making to address today’s most urgent needs. Transition to renewable energy is urgent! We talk about how we can transition to solar fast, and how science and policy need to work together to get the job done, and how individuals can get involved.
Guests:
Erica Goldman, on systems thinking and solar
Alice Wu, on tipping points
Zoë Brouns, on the workforce needed to meet the moment
Topics discussed:
American Climate Corps, which is an IRA program intended to mobilize the green workforce on par with the FDR programs (see Civilian Conservation Corps), modeled similarly to the successful AmeriCorps.
DOE (US Department of Energy)
Virtual Power Plant Commercial Liftoff Report
DOE Commercial Liftoff homepage
Clean Energy Talent Workforce report
FAS History
Manhattan Project Los Alamos
Clean Energy and Climate Policy
Science, Policy and Policy Entrepreneurship
SUBMIT YOUR IDEAS!
Congress
White House
Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) 2022
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL) 2021
Follow FAS’s work via their newsletter
I am honored to have hosted the podcast with the most intelligent people ever on any podcast in history. Erika, Alice and Zoë's backgrounds are very impressive! Be sure to click on their names above, or find them on LinkedIn to see what I mean. We are talking Einstein-level conversation at times, especially when Alice told us about triplet excitons. This is an exciting conversation!
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.HeatSpring.com/Sean


