Keep or Kut

Chad Young, Pete Ball
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Mar 21, 2022 • 1h 11min

K ꓘ 51 - Trades, Injuries and Signings

Keep or Kut - Chad (@ChadYoung) and Pete (@PeteBBaseball) are fired up to have baseball back. It might just be roster moves and Spring Training, but it's better than a lockout. And there is plenty to discuss, from Philly adding the big bats of Kyle Schwarber and Nick Castellanos; Chris Bassitt heading to the Mets; Kris Bryant heading to Coors; and Chris Sale and Jack Flaherty (and maybe Zac Gallen?) head to the IL. Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps 1:26 - Pete and Chad react to the early movement in the market. 13:14 - How do Nick Castellanos and Kyle Schwarber fit in Philly, and should Philly pitchers be worried? 24:50 - Digging into Kyle Schwarber’s ADP and a quick gave of "Schwarber or..." featuring Giancarlo Stanton, Bryan Reynolds, and more. 32:45 - Chad's theory on how Carlos Correa ended up with the deal he got 37:49 - How should you rank Anthony Rendon, Kris Bryant, and Austin Riley, now that Rendon appears healthy and Bryant is in Denver. 44:25 - How to react to the injury news on Jack Flaherty, Chris Sale, and Zac Gallen, including the impact of league format and structure. 57:40 - The Lightning Round featuring Freddie Freeman, Matt Olson, Carlos Correa, and Luke Voit. 1:02:18 - Chris Bassitt leaves Oakland 1:06:19 - Kevin Smith gets a shot Get PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 14, 2022 • 1h 25min

K ꓘ 50 - Listener Ottoneu League Auction Recap

Keep or Kut - Chad (@ChadYoung) and Pete (@PeteBBaseball) break down their own rosters, as well as the rosters of the top 3 teams in the Keep or Kut Ottoneu Listener League according to the Surplus Calculator. Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. 3:24 - Carlos Rodón is a San Francisco Giant 9:30 - Ottoneu 4x4 & Surplus Calculator explained 15:43 - Breaking down Pete's team. Why does the Surplus Calculator hate it? 21:34 - A dissection of Chad's roster turns into a conversation about the potential ace-status of Frankie Montas 32:43 - House of David's roster has lots of solid values 35:58 - Dansby Swanson's 2021... fluke or legit? 44:28 - The massive range of potential outcomes for Chrisb's roster turns into a conversation about two sluggers: Luke Voit & Jorge Soler 59:50 - The surplus calculator loved the Fighting Chihuahua's auction results. Is Miguel Sanó sneaky valuable? 1:10:27 - Best values from the auction 1:16:08 - Worst values from the auctionGet PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 7, 2022 • 1h 14min

K ꓘ 49 - SP Preview

Keep or Kut - Chad (@ChadYoung) and Pete (@PeteBBaseball) finish up their positional previews with starting pitching. In addition to going through their top 20 SP for keeper leagues, they dive into their strategies for drafting pitching. Plus looks at Jacob deGrom, Max Scherzer, Shohei Ohtani, and more. Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps: 0:42 - Bemoaning the lockout and potential 14-team playoffs 10:14 - How different are top-20 SP lists for keeper vs. redraft leagues? 13:37 - Chad and Pete's top 20s 15:50 - Debating number one, thoughts on Jacob deGrom, and Chad and Pete share their philosophy on keeper league pitching 31:30 - How far do we drop Max Scherzer, plus more on Pete thinking short-term while Chad claims the top 10 just don't have keeper value to him. 43:34 - Chad left Lucas Giolito off his list; Pete left Robbie Ray off his. Maybe they are both wrong? 57:38 - How does Shohei Ohtani stack up when you only look at his arm? 1:03:40 - A quick review of some Honorable Mentions, plus a look at Tyler Glasnow's value and the intriguing names in the mid-range of drafts.Get PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Feb 28, 2022 • 1h 23min

K ꓘ 48 - OF Preview

Keep or Kut - Chad (@ChadYoung) and Pete (@PeteBBaseball) discuss their top 20 outfielders for keeper leagues. Although the tops of their lists are quite similar, a lot of different names appear on their back-10s. One of them even has a prospect in their top 20 and, spoiler alert, it isn't Chad! Timestamps 2:06 – quick update on how the Keep or Kut listener league auction is going 5:30 – Chad provides both he and Pete’s top 20 at outfield 8:47 – The importance of tiers when doing rankings 17:45 – Where will Nick Castellanos end up? 23:25 – Fernando Tatís Jr. or Juan Soto? A conversation about Tatís Jr.’s shoulder follows. 28:48 – Cedric Mullins vs Tyler O’Neill. Mullins 2021 may have been a fluke, but that doesn’t make him bad! 36:15 – Pete feels pretty passionately about how great Aaron Judge is 42:00 – The risk of Christian Yelich, Cody Bellinger, Julio Rodríguez, and Jarred Kelenic 49:00 – Pete is not a fan of Randy Arozarena 58:12 – Some names Chad and Pete like that didn’t make their lists 1:06:28 – Jo Adell and what to make of him 1:14:51 – The issue with baseball and keeping talented, young players in the minorsGet PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Feb 21, 2022 • 1h 22min

K ꓘ 47 - Designing a New League

Keep or Kut - Using the soon-to-draft Keep or Kut listener leagues as an excuse, Chad (@ChadYoung) and Pete (@PeteBBaseball) invite Adam Howe (@eightygrade) onto the show to talk league settings. What scoring do you want to use? How big should your rosters be? What about keepers? And a whole lot more. Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps 2:05 - Our guest, Adam Howe, tells us about his keeper leagues 8:48 - Welcome to the Keep or Kut Listener Leagues! 11:30 - Scoring and standings: There are pros and cons to season-long leagues vs. head-to-head; Chad tells you why points is checkers to roto chess; and we land on two different approaches for our two leagues. 32:15 - Draft vs. Auction? While there are great reasons to choose an auction, sometimes a draft is just simpler. 37:26 - Rosters and lineups vary quite a bit, just on the offensive side. We debate how many C and share a preference for deeper lineups. 42:27 - Pitching has fewer choices, but you still have to decide if you are splitting SP and RP or just using a pile of pitchers. 47:44 - Your bench size can't be determined in a vacuum, as roster construction, IL spots and other factors play a role. 54:01 - Both lineups and transactions can be daily, weekly, or anything in between. Plus the benefits of FAAB vs. Waivers or fastest finger. 1:04:09 - How should we include minor leaguers in these leagues? 1:10:41 - Last, but certainly not least, what about the keeper rules? How many players are kept? What do they cost? And more.Get PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Feb 14, 2022 • 1h 16min

K ꓘ 46 - Mailbag & RP Preview

Keep or Kut - Chad (@ChadYoung) and Pete (@PeteBBaseball) go through many keeper and Ottoneu listener questions before providing a brief, but informative dissection of their thoughts on relief pitchers in keeper leagues. Timestamps 4:20 - Keep or Kut?: Gavin Lux, Nate Pearson, Tyler Mahle 10:05 - Pete brought about change to ESPN's keeper settings 14:00 - A listener is trying to figure out who to keep among names such as Trea Turner, Corbin Burnes, and Lance Lynn 18:50 - Keep an expensive Nolan Arenado or a risky Max Muncy 22:10 - Tough keeper decisions. Give up your last pick for Jack Flaherty or surrender a 14th for Wander Franco? 30:00 - Dominic Smith at $7 is a kut! 39:50 - What to do with Michael Conforto 1:00:32 - Are we making any changes to our line of thinking as it relates to keepers given that we are staring down a potential loss of games? 1:03:23 - Our Top 10 RPs for Keeper Leagues and general philosophy on closers in keeper leagues Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | TuneIn | Google Podcasts | RSS Connect: Twitter | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+Get PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Feb 7, 2022 • 1h 14min

K ꓘ 45 - MI Preview

Keep or Kut - Chad (@ChadYoung) and Pete (@PeteBBaseball) dive back into their top tens for keeper leagues with their 2B and SS rankings. With names like Fernando Tatis, Jr., Trea Turner, Brandon Lowe, and Bo Bichette at the top, plus youth like Wander Franco, Bobby Witt, Jr., and more coming along, MI is more exciting than ever. Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps 0:41 - There is just so much talent at these two spots 3:37 - Our top ten 2B 5:30 - Should Javier Báez be in the top ten? 11:16 - How aggressively do you want to go after Jazz Chisholm, Jr.? What about others in the bottom half of a top ten like Jonathan India or Jake Cronenworth? 19:14 - There is a pretty big game from the top three - Trea Turner, Brandon Lowe, and Ozzie Albies - to the rest of the list 25:32 - What to do with Max Muncy? 28:18 - A quick look at some sleepers and prospects at second base - Ty France, Luis Urías, Tommy Edman, Nolan Gorman, and Enrique Hernández 36:35 - Moving on to your top ten SS 37:45 - How do you rate Wander Franco, including a deeper look at Francisco Lindor and a comparison to Tim Anderson. 50:23 - The upside of Bobby Witt, Jr. 57:01 - Sleepers and prospects at shortstop, including Dansby Swanson, Eugenio Suarez, Brandon Crawford, Oneil Cruz, and Bryson Stott. 1:05:12 - Diving deeper into Tim AndersonGet PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Jan 24, 2022 • 1h 11min

K ꓘ 44 - Keeper Mailbag and C Preview

Keep or Kut - With keeper deadlines approaching, Chad (@ChadYoung) and Pete (@PeteBBaseball) take a quick break from the rankings to answer some listener questions. But then they get right back to it with their top 10 C for keeper leagues. Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps 1:03 - Keeper mailbag! Who would you rather lock in for three years? Pete Alonso or Aaron Nola? 5:14 - In an Ottoneu points league, are you keeping $60 Bryce Harper or $20 Max Muncy? 13:27 - Pick your ace: Shane Bieber or Sandy Alcantara? 17:19 - Share some thoughts on Trent Grisham. 20:47 - Can you keep a $31 Cody Bellinger in Ottoneu? 26:07 - What about Frank Schwindel in 5x5? 27:16 - The lightning round! $5 Cristian Javier, $5 Abraham Toro, $3 Josh Rojas, $4 Chad Green, $4 Andrew Kittredge, $6 Nick Senzel, $6 Noelvi Marte, $4 Cade Cavalli, $6 Jameson Taillon, $3 Marco Gonzales, $13 Dylan Carlson 30:25 - Trying to find six keepers in a league with a unique salary structure 39:02 - Chad and Pete share their top 10 C 40:42 - Alejandro Kirk was only on one of the two lists, but is there an interesting comparison between him and Adley Rutschman? 49:21 - How would these lists change for redraft? 51:15 - Comparing Joey Bart to other C prospects, including MJ Melendez and Daulton Varsho 59:10 - Sleepers and flyers such as Mitch Garver, Sean Murphy, Francisco Mejia, and Gary SanchezGet PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Jan 10, 2022 • 1h 7min

K ꓘ 43 - CI Preview

Keep or Kut - It's time to make keeper decisions and get ready for drafts, so Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@ChadYoung) are going position-by-position discussing their top ten lists for 5x5 keeper leagues. Today, they cover both CI spots. Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps 1:20 - How we think about these lists, knowing that every keeper league is unique. 8:11 - A quick look at our matching top four's - Vlad Guerrero Jr. at the top, Freddie Freeman a clear #2, and a deeper look at Matt Olson vs. Pete Alonso. 12:31 - Moving through the rest of the top 10, starting with Pete pushing Spencer Torkelson all the way up to #5. 22:53 - Pete and Chad settle their differences on Ryan Mountcastle, Trey Mancini, José Abreu, Andrew Vaughn, and Alex Kirilloff 31:56 - Running through some sleepers, flyers, and prospects, including Luke Voit, Brandon Belt, Yulieski Gurriel, Nick Pratto, and Triston Casas. 39:13 - We move over to 3B top 10, starting with the top five, where the top three are the top three, but what about Alex Bregman and Austin Riley in the next two spots? 44:12 - In the bottom half of the top ten, we're both excited about Ke'Bryan Hayes, but just how excited? 50:51 - Is it time to be out on Anthony Rendon? 55:15 - And is it too early to be in on Josh Jung as a top 10 option? 59:36 - What do you make of Adalberto Mondesi? 1:02:47 - Another set of sleepers, flyers and prospects featuring Eugenio Suarez, Jeimer Candelario, JD Davis, Cavan Biggio, and Jose MirandaGet PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Jan 4, 2022 • 1h 7min

K ꓘ 42 - Keeper Values by ADP

Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@ChadYoung) do a little mock draft, but with a twist. Rather than drafting to build the best team, this draft is focused on keeper value. In this eight-round draft, players are taken with their current NFBC ADP attached with Chad and Pete trying to identify players who will be good keepers for 2023. The result is a combination of sleepers, breakouts, and other players who we expect to cost a lot more in 2023 than they do in 2022. Draft them now and you'll be thrilled to keep them next year. Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps: 2:09 - The rules for the draft 5:34 - With the first overall pick, Pete bets on a bounceback from Alex Bregman, whose current ADP may be an overcorrection. 8:34 - Chad looks for a breakout with his first pick, taking Alejandro Kirk and his elite batted balls and solid plate discipline. 10:59 - Fantasy managers seem to be waiting for Jorge Polanco to prove his 2019 and 2021 are legit, but Chad is happy to take him with his second pick. 13:23 - Another MI off the board, as Pete grabs Gleyber Torres (still just 25 years old) with his second pick. 17:35 - More youth for Pete, as he fills first base with Alex Kirilloff, who underperformed his 2022 xStats. 19:57 - Finishing up the third, Chad takes Andrew Vaughn, who was solid if not spectacular despite making the leap from A-ball all the way to MLB. 23:36 - Kirilloff vs. Vaughn: Who ya got? 24:47 - Chad adds some power with Rhys Hoskins, who showed improvement in 2021 and could be primed for a breakout. 29:28 - Will Smith slots in behind the plate for Pete - could he be C1 this year? 34:38 - Pete just can't quit Brendan Rodgers, but there are real reasons for optimism. 38:19 - Fresh off a strong finish (pre-injury), Blake Snell is Chad's pick at SP. 41:17 - Chad finishes off his pitching staff with Ken Giles, who was elite when we last saw him and has a path to saves. 44:47 - Pete goes deep into ADP to take Trevor Larnach. Larnach is risky, but he's also basically free. 49:08 - At the other end of the spectrum, Sandy Alcantara is far from free, but there's still room for him to be a great keeper at this cost. 52:12 - He's been freed from Tropicana Field, but Willy Adames still comes cheap enough that Chad sees a lot of keeper value. 55:28 - Chad's last pick is Alec Bohm, whose 70 grade hit tool is too good to keep performing so poorly. 58:30 - Pete finishes up with Devin Williams, who may not be a closer immediately, but has elite skills and could be a big win for a patient manager. 1:01:44 - LIGHTNING ROUND! Chad and Pete offer quick thoughts on players who weren't taken in the draft, but could have been: Carson Kelly, Chris Taylor, Oneil Cruz, Trent Grisham, Frankie Montas, Camilo Doval, Trey Mancini Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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