The Leader’s Way

We are growing in our understanding of the long-term effects trauma and moral injury can have on bodies and spirits, including those within our own congregations. In this important and tender episode, Brandon and Whitney talk with former Army Chaplain and Episcopal priest David Peters about the ways faith communities can lean on Jesus’s life story to respond with love and care to these wounds. David’s latest book, Post-Traumatic Jesus: Reading the Gospel with the Wounded, offers a portrait of Jesus as living and speaking into a world that was familiar with trauma, from war to oppression to political violence, and reading the Gospels through that lens can create space for healing. Host: Brandon Nappi with Whitney Coe Guest: David Peters Production: Goodchild Media Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders

Welcome to WITHIN, a contemplative segment of The Leader's Way Podcast that explores the convergence of mental health, art, and spirituality through authentic conversations across traditions about personal and collective transformation. In this inaugural episode, Brandon talks with Joanna Penn, an award-winning New York Times and USA Today bestselling author, whose latest book, “Pilgrimage: Lessons Learned from Solo Walking Three Ancient Ways,” explores the rich themes of spirituality, mental health, and personal transformation. Tune in for a conversation about the power of walking, writing, and leaning into the call on our hearts.   Host: Brandon Nappi Guest: Joanna Penn   Production: Goodchild Media   Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders

In a poignant dialogue, Michelle Snyder—a therapist and executive director of Soul Shop—addresses the urgent need for discussions on suicide within faith communities. She highlights the rising rates of isolation and suicide, urging faith leaders to become proactive in prevention efforts. Michelle emphasizes the role of compassion and open dialogue, advocating for the creation of 'soul-safe' environments through training. By sharing personal experiences and resources, she inspires more inclusive and supportive spaces for mental health conversations.

Pádraig Ó Tuama, an Irish theologian, poet, and conflict mediator, shares his insights on the enchanting power of poetry. He discusses how language can evoke delight or terror and the deep connection between poetry and spirituality. Pádraig reflects on the wisdom of Meister Eckhart and the role of poetry in healing divided communities. He also opens up about his journey, including his early call to the priesthood. Throughout the conversation, he reads some of his own evocative poems, emphasizing the transformative nature of words in our lives.

Adrian Dannhauser, Rector of Church of the Incarnation in NYC and author, dives into the depths of spiritual practice and evangelism. He shares insights from his transformation from Southern Baptist roots to embracing inclusivity in the Episcopal Church. The discussion covers the significance of silent retreats and the courage required to pray for others. Adrian emphasizes the healing power of community and love in worship, along with practical tips for navigating challenges in spiritual ministry, all while showcasing his authentic self through playful anecdotes.

What do church mission, governance, and high school theater have in common? Brandon and Hannah talk with The Rev’d Molly James, PhD., Interim Executive Officer at The Episcopal Church and Berkeley Divinity at Yale alum (’05), about the ways Church mission and institutional governance weave together to strengthen the work of The Episcopal Church. Listen as Rev’d Molly recounts lessons on leadership gleaned from her high school stage manager days and reminds us how real transformation only happens when we work together.   Hosts: Brandon Nappi, Whitney Kimball Coe, and Misty Krasawski Guest: Hannah Black Production: Goodchild Media Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective Art: E. Landino   Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast   You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders

Jim Wallis, a public theologian and founder of Sojourners, shares his insights on navigating the intersection of faith and social justice. He examines the troubling intertwining of Christianity and political allegiances, particularly among evangelicals, while advocating for truth in resisting nationalism. Wallis emphasizes the necessity of spiritual practices in leadership, and highlights the unifying efforts of faith communities against deportation raids. He also discusses the difference between optimism and hope, underscoring the importance of choosing hope in challenging times.

Futurist and Berkeley Divinity at Yale alum Rachel Hatch (‘08) joins Brandon and Hannah for a conversation about how to look for signals of change within our own parishes and communities as we make thoughtful choices for the future. In this episode, Rachel encourages leaders to cultivate a practice of imagining possibilities and taking steps toward hope-filled futures, while still addressing the urgencies of the present.

Hannah has news, and you have new friends! Tune in to meet guest hosts Whitney and Misty as they join Brandon in interviewing Hannah for our season finale. Why is Gregory of Nyssa’s take on salvation so different from what Hannah heard in church growing up? Are there risks in the regular ways we talk about Christian salvation? How did feminist theology help her untangle all of this? How much can we know or talk about God? And why is wonder, an antidote to certainty, so important? Listen to find out. Hosts: Brandon Nappi, Whitney Kimball Coe, and Misty Krasawski Guest: Hannah Black Production: Goodchild Media Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective Art: E. Landino Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders

Jeffrey Mello, the 16th Bishop Diocesan of the Episcopal Church in Connecticut, shares his unique blend of social work and ministry. He discusses how a posture of curiosity and the acceptance of failure are essential to effective leadership. The conversation delves into the challenges and benefits of integrating pop culture into spiritual practices, as well as the importance of community dynamics in fostering personal and collective growth. The lighthearted segment at the end reveals his playful side through a rapid-fire question round, making for an entertaining conclusion.