The Leader’s Way

Host Brandon Nappi keeps the flame of curiosity alive in this edition of Within, a contemplative segment of The Leader's Way Podcast, that explores the convergence of mental health, art, and spirituality through authentic conversations across traditions about personal and collective transformation. In this episode, Brandon welcomes Elise Loehnen, best-selling author of “On Our Best Behavior” and co-author with Phil Stutz of 'True and False Magic.’ Elise is also the host of the Pulling the Thread Podcast, where she engages in deep conversations that explore the human experience and the myriad paths to personal growth. Brandon talks with Elise about her keen interest in exploring nuanced and often overlooked aspects of the human condition and her commitment to pairing rigorous research with accessible language. Want to get better at processing and wrestling with questions? Start writing a Substack, says Elise.   Host: Brandon Nappi   Guest: Elise Loehnen   Production: Goodchild Media   Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast   You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders

Dwight Zscheile is a professor of congregational mission and leadership at Luther Seminary, and his wife, Blair Pogue, is a priest and canon for vitality and innovation in the Episcopal Church in Minnesota. They join Leader’s Way host Brandon Nappi for a conversation about their joint passion for engaging the innovative ways the Church is renewing its commitment to community and communion by meeting people where they are.  Brandon talks with Dwight and Blair about their new book, Embracing the Mixed Ecology: Inherited and New Forms of Christian Community Flourishing Together, which unpacks the theological language of “mixed ecology,” and how this language can help us imagine what is possible in our church communities.   Host: Brandon Nappi Guests: Dwight Zscheile and Blair Pogue   Production: Goodchild Media   Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast   You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders

Spencer Reece, an Episcopal priest and award-winning poet, shares his journey from retail work to Yale Divinity School. He discusses how poetry acts as a cultural memory and a response to violence, helping us remember lost lives. Reece emphasizes the solace found in memorized verses as spiritual anchors. He reflects on the influence of mentors like Louise Glück and the richness of T. S. Eliot's religious poetry. Additionally, he offers encouragement to aspiring writers, advocating for embracing imperfection and joy in the creative process.

David Peters, a former Marine and Army chaplain turned Episcopal priest, dives deep into trauma and its effects on faith. He discusses his book, Post-Traumatic Jesus, highlighting Jesus' life as a lens for understanding trauma. Peters contrasts PTSD and moral injury, emphasizing the importance of language in healing. He reflects on the role of churches in supporting those with hidden wounds and advocates for embodied practices like rituals and sacraments. His personal journey illustrates how embracing wounds can lead to profound healing.

Welcome to WITHIN, a contemplative segment of The Leader's Way Podcast that explores the convergence of mental health, art, and spirituality through authentic conversations across traditions about personal and collective transformation. In this inaugural episode, Brandon talks with Joanna Penn, an award-winning New York Times and USA Today bestselling author, whose latest book, “Pilgrimage: Lessons Learned from Solo Walking Three Ancient Ways,” explores the rich themes of spirituality, mental health, and personal transformation. Tune in for a conversation about the power of walking, writing, and leaning into the call on our hearts.   Host: Brandon Nappi Guest: Joanna Penn   Production: Goodchild Media   Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders

In a poignant dialogue, Michelle Snyder—a therapist and executive director of Soul Shop—addresses the urgent need for discussions on suicide within faith communities. She highlights the rising rates of isolation and suicide, urging faith leaders to become proactive in prevention efforts. Michelle emphasizes the role of compassion and open dialogue, advocating for the creation of 'soul-safe' environments through training. By sharing personal experiences and resources, she inspires more inclusive and supportive spaces for mental health conversations.

Pádraig Ó Tuama, an Irish theologian, poet, and conflict mediator, shares his insights on the enchanting power of poetry. He discusses how language can evoke delight or terror and the deep connection between poetry and spirituality. Pádraig reflects on the wisdom of Meister Eckhart and the role of poetry in healing divided communities. He also opens up about his journey, including his early call to the priesthood. Throughout the conversation, he reads some of his own evocative poems, emphasizing the transformative nature of words in our lives.

Adrian Dannhauser, Rector of Church of the Incarnation in NYC and author, dives into the depths of spiritual practice and evangelism. He shares insights from his transformation from Southern Baptist roots to embracing inclusivity in the Episcopal Church. The discussion covers the significance of silent retreats and the courage required to pray for others. Adrian emphasizes the healing power of community and love in worship, along with practical tips for navigating challenges in spiritual ministry, all while showcasing his authentic self through playful anecdotes.

What do church mission, governance, and high school theater have in common? Brandon and Hannah talk with The Rev’d Molly James, PhD., Interim Executive Officer at The Episcopal Church and Berkeley Divinity at Yale alum (’05), about the ways Church mission and institutional governance weave together to strengthen the work of The Episcopal Church. Listen as Rev’d Molly recounts lessons on leadership gleaned from her high school stage manager days and reminds us how real transformation only happens when we work together.   Hosts: Brandon Nappi, Whitney Kimball Coe, and Misty Krasawski Guest: Hannah Black Production: Goodchild Media Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective Art: E. Landino   Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast   You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders

Jim Wallis, a public theologian and founder of Sojourners, shares his insights on navigating the intersection of faith and social justice. He examines the troubling intertwining of Christianity and political allegiances, particularly among evangelicals, while advocating for truth in resisting nationalism. Wallis emphasizes the necessity of spiritual practices in leadership, and highlights the unifying efforts of faith communities against deportation raids. He also discusses the difference between optimism and hope, underscoring the importance of choosing hope in challenging times.