

A Gay and A NonGay
James Barr and Dan Hudson
In a time where we're all threatened by a rhetoric of hate from the people in power; A Gay And A NonGay challenges our differences. No matter who you are, or what you're into, gay's and nongay's can & should be friends.'Highly Recommended' Guardian'One of the most fundamentally kind and funny podcasts in Britain' RadioTimes'A hilarious take on love, friendship and sex' TimeOutAn independent podcast from James Barr (@imjamesbarr) and Dan Hudson (@DanHudson). Find us on Insta, TikTok, Twitter and Facebook @gaynongayGet bonus content on Patreon, with our super exclusive fan feed
Episodes
Mentioned books

Oct 8, 2025 • 18min
Pride, Refugees & The Politics Of Britishness
We're getting political on this episode of A Gay And A NonGay!
Rylan’s controversial comments on immigration - the episode spirals into a fiery debate about misinformation, far-right rhetoric and the way everyday conversations in the UK are shaped by fear rather than facts.
From England flags mysteriously appearing on lampposts to Pride merch being vandalised, James and Dan unpack what it really means to be "proud" of your country — and how queer and refugee communities get caught in the crossfire.
Plus, the pair take a typically chaotic detour into whether Grindr is basically the Wild West of the internet.
Follow A Gay & A NonGay
TikTok: @gaynongay
Instagram: @gaynongay
YouTube: @gaynongay
Facebook: @gaynongay
Website: gaynongay.com
Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 24, 2025 • 27min
Sharing Your Location With A Partner? Think Again!
We're back with a new episode of A Gay And A NonGay! James and Dan are diving into the age-old relationship question: should you share your location with your partner?
Dan reveals he doesn't share his location with his girlfriend of 14 years (despite her sharing hers with him)... which James has some strong opinions about!
Dan also updates on his viral campaign to rename Birmingham Airport after the late Ozzy Osbourne and we explore the power of public petitions!
Follow A Gay & A NonGay
TikTok: @gaynongay
Instagram: @gaynongay
YouTube: @gaynongay
Facebook: @gaynongay
Website: gaynongay.com
Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 10, 2025 • 32min
Is Liking Pop Music Performative?
James and Dan are back with another hilarious deep dive into gay and non-gay life!
Kicking off with a listener question about what gay people really listen to at the gym, things quickly spiral into a heated debate about whether liking Kylie or Madonna is performative — and whether James is secretly pretending to love Drag Race.
From there, we head to the rugby, where James (fuelled by Sauvignon Blanc) and Dan find themselves surrounded by rainbow flags, drag queens... and straight lads... discovering how queer joy can transform even the most “blokey” of spaces.
Along the way, we get into electric car nightmares, mosh pits at Download Festival and the unexpected shame of eating alone with a newspaper.
Follow A Gay & A NonGay
TikTok: @gaynongay
Instagram: @gaynongay
YouTube: @gaynongay
Facebook: @gaynongay
Website: gaynongay.com
Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 3, 2025 • 11min
Banning Songs At A Wedding?!
James & Dan's Webby Award has finally arrived... and it's going to cost HOW MUCH to get a second one!? They'll be sharing for now!
On this episode of A Gay And A NonGay, James spills the tea about his recent wedding DJ gig that broke the internet because of the banned songs list he was sent! Is this purely straight behaviour?
Who has the better taste in music (gays or non-gays)? And should James get into DJing more weddings? All is contained herewithin!
Follow A Gay & A NonGay
TikTok: @gaynongay
Instagram: @gaynongay
YouTube: @gaynongay
Facebook: @gaynongay
Website: gaynongay.com
Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 27, 2025 • 38min
The Cost of Inauthenticity with Rich Clarke
Get ready for a raw and honest conversation on this episode of A Gay And A NonGay, as James & Dan are joined by broadcaster Rich Clarke to talk about being gay in the public eye.
Rich opens up about his decades-long struggle with authenticity - and the breakdown that changed everything. He talks about working on Capital FM in the 2010s and being told he was "too gay"... and ultimately the conversations that led to the deterioration of his mental health.
James, Dan and Rich talk about the psychological cost of inauthenticity, media-enforced heteronormativity in the 2010s, and Rich's journey from shame to acceptance.
Follow A Gay & A NonGay
TikTok: @gaynongay
Instagram: @gaynongay
YouTube: @gaynongay
Facebook: @gaynongay
Website: gaynongay.com
Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 20, 2025 • 32min
Regional Gays & Lavender Marriages
We're here for another Summer episode of A Gay And A NonGay. With James at Edinburgh Fringe, we're focusing on the really big questions in life...
So, after we debate killing a fly or not, James & Dan are talking about regional gays (who even are they?!), why lavender marriages are making a comeback and the bizarre rules around who gets financial support in relationships.
James questions why we don’t just marry our friends, while Dan admits he’d rather be “unstable” than marry a bloke for tax breaks.
Plus, the debate gets heated! Maybe attractive people do have it better after all...
Follow A Gay & A NonGay
TikTok: @gaynongay
Instagram: @gaynongay
YouTube: @gaynongay
Facebook: @gaynongay
Website: gaynongay.com
Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 13, 2025 • 28min
Wearing A Rucksack With Both Straps
We have our first guest-free episode of A Gay And A NonGay in ages! We're diving into everything from backpack etiquette to Oasis concerts.
We kick off with a burning question from their straightest friend: Why did we all believe that wearing a rucksack with both straps was gay? Queue a debate about bags, masculinity and school-era social dynamics.
Dan also shares his incredible experience at the Oasis reunion concert, leading to a discussion about whether massive concerts like these serve as "straight pride".
The episode explores themes of accountability, the complexity of community dynamic and the Coldplay concert incident that had everyone talking.
Follow A Gay & A NonGay
TikTok: @gaynongay
Instagram: @gaynongay
YouTube: @gaynongay
Facebook: @gaynongay
Website: gaynongay.com
Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 6, 2025 • 43min
Why History Is Much More Gay Than You Think with Harry Tanner
We're diving in deep with historian and author Harry Tanner on this week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay!
As a teenager, Harry was an evangelical Christian and came to believe homosexuality was a sin. Now, he lives a fulfilled gay life in London where he writes and teaches ancient languages and history.
In his new book - The Queer Thing About Sin - Harry explores how the West invented and weaponised homophobia — tracing its origins from ancient Greece and Rome through to today’s culture wars.
uncover stories of queer love in history, from porn pots in ancient Greece to heartfelt letters between men in 18th‑century Boston. They discuss why queer rights have risen and fallen throughout history and the deep ties between religion, politics and sexuality.
Plus, don't miss a surprising detour into ancient condoms!
Follow A Gay & A NonGay
TikTok: @gaynongay
Instagram: @gaynongay
YouTube: @gaynongay
Facebook: @gaynongay
Website: gaynongay.com
Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 30, 2025 • 10min
Everyone's A Little Self-Obsessed with Eurovision winner JJ
We’re joined by Eurovision royalty on this episode of A Gay And A NonGay — the winner of the 2025 Eurovision Song Contest, JJ!
Fresh from Vienna, JJ chats with James and Dan about everything from broken trophies and bubble wrap fails to navigating unrequited love in the queer community.
They open up about the struggles of dating when everyone seems a little self-obsessed, the importance of listening to your friends’ red-flag warnings and why being true to yourself is key in love and life.
Plus — JJ teases their brand new music following the smash hit Wasted Love, with 29 million plays and counting.
Follow A Gay & A NonGay
TikTok: @gaynongay
Instagram: @gaynongay
YouTube: @gaynongay
Facebook: @gaynongay
Website: gaynongay.com
Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 23, 2025 • 30min
Pride, Protest, and Politics with Eva Echo
We have a record-breaker on the podcast this week! It's Eva Echo's third appearance on A Gay And A NonGay, which puts her in a class of her own!
Eva is a trans activity, NHS campaigner and is the Director of Innovation at Birmingham Pride.
On this episode, James, Dan and Eva talk about pride as a protest amid rising transphobia in UK politics, the recent UK Supreme Court ruling on gender identity and the Download Festival toilet controversy.
Plus, the hosts explore the difficulty of self-recognition and appreciation for activists.
Follow A Gay & A NonGay
TikTok: @gaynongay
Instagram: @gaynongay
YouTube: @gaynongay
Facebook: @gaynongay
Website: gaynongay.com
Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices