

The Coach's Journey - build a coaching business with integrity
Robbie Swale
Coach’s Journey founder Robbie Swale and a team of hosts interview coaches about how they created a successful business and how they create impact for their clients.
Through these conversations, you can learn how each coach came to coaching, grew their coaching practice and found their way to the successful business they have today. Each interview, like each journey, is different. But each is also packed with insights, tips, suggestions and ideas to grow your coaching business and have even greater impact creating change in the lives of your clients. Past guests include life coaches, business coaches, executivecoaches, career coaches, leadership coaches and more. Some are household names; some are coaches you’ve never heard of. All of them share ideas on the key topics for creating a coaching business: money, fees, impact with clients, training and more. About Robbie: Robbie Swale is a leadership coach, podcaster and the author of four books. He has trained with masters in the field of coaching and building coaching businesses, including Rich Litvin, Robert Holden and guests on the podcast like Katie Harvey and Myles Downey. He is the creator of The Coaching Business Flywheel, which attempts to boil down everything he has learned from many years supporting coaches to grow their businesses and interviewing amazing coaches on this podcast, into one simple, actionable model. Subscribe and read more about the podcast, The Coach’s Journey Community and get the free ebook An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel at www.thecoachsjourney.com
Through these conversations, you can learn how each coach came to coaching, grew their coaching practice and found their way to the successful business they have today. Each interview, like each journey, is different. But each is also packed with insights, tips, suggestions and ideas to grow your coaching business and have even greater impact creating change in the lives of your clients. Past guests include life coaches, business coaches, executivecoaches, career coaches, leadership coaches and more. Some are household names; some are coaches you’ve never heard of. All of them share ideas on the key topics for creating a coaching business: money, fees, impact with clients, training and more. About Robbie: Robbie Swale is a leadership coach, podcaster and the author of four books. He has trained with masters in the field of coaching and building coaching businesses, including Rich Litvin, Robert Holden and guests on the podcast like Katie Harvey and Myles Downey. He is the creator of The Coaching Business Flywheel, which attempts to boil down everything he has learned from many years supporting coaches to grow their businesses and interviewing amazing coaches on this podcast, into one simple, actionable model. Subscribe and read more about the podcast, The Coach’s Journey Community and get the free ebook An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel at www.thecoachsjourney.com
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May 2, 2024 • 2h 9min
Episode #66: Ruth Saville – How to Be a Rebel, Misbehave More and Set Your Sights on Being a Master F***ing Coach!
Would you like to have more fun while still working in your zone of genius? Are you concerned you might need to shake things up to avoid becoming a boring coach?Ruth Saville’s advice to coaches everywhere – including herself – is: misbehave more. Listen to your inner rebel. Dance in the moment and create systems that work for you.Since the COVID-19 pandemic forced Ruth to step back from her successful performing arts franchise and examine the toll her work was taking on her life, she has followed her inner seeker into the world of personal development and coaching.In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ruth takes Robbie back to the small towns in the north of England where they both grew up, retracing the steps of a life and career that began with a focus on helping people to express themselves through dance, theatre and music.Ruth, who is one of the new hosts of this podcast as well as her own show, Women of a Certain Age, is now focusing on working with emerging leaders in all fields, having arrived in her zone of genius, taken her own approach to mastery, and become anything other than boring. In this episode, Ruth and Robbie also talk about:Big hairy audacious goals (BHAGs)Cults, pyramid schemes and other perilous industry pitfallsHow to accept who you are, in order to know what you can doWays to market yourself without exploiting othersTaking a step back to spot the signs of burnoutRuth also grapples with the models and methodologies that can fuel or frustrate new coaches and unpacks problems that have plagued certain sections of the coaching industry, making important distinctions about the ways in which different practitioners work.For more information about Ruth, visit https://www.daretorise.co.uk/ .For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/.Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- You Will Be Found from Dear Evan Hansen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq9FlLVh6yg- Gretchen Rubin and the Four Tendencies: https://courses.gretchenrubin.com/4tc/ and her book Better Than Before- Gallup coaching https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/253958/become-coach.aspx - GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model - Claire Pedrick and Lucia Baldelli on The Coach’s Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-55-claire-pedrick-and-lucia-baldelli-the-human-behind-the-coach - Barefoot Coaching https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/ - The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-big-leap-gay-hendricks?variant=32205677625378 - Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/ - Animas https://www.animascoaching.com/ Marianne Craig on The Coach’s Journey Podcast - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-10-marianne-craig-founding-firework-question-everything-where-were-coaches-when-banks-went-down- Co-active Training Institute https://coactive.com/ - Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/ - Kim Morgan on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan - Brene Brown on The Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2015/08/28/brene-brown-on-vulnerability-and-home-run-ted-talks/- Mel Robbins: https://www.melrobbins.com/- Rachel Hollis: https://msrachelhollis.com/- Ruth's podcast, Women of a Certain Age: https://www.daretorise.co.uk/podcast- Ruth's blog on perimenopause: https://www.daretorise.co.uk/blog/an-enforced-perimeno-pause- The Lighthouse scandal: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65175712- Ruth's instagram post and the picture of her aged 20: https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct1HvaYIQfd/BIOGRAPHY FROM RUTHRuth is a leadership and business coach who specialises in working with emerging leaders. With 20+ years experience of being self employed she is also an entrepreneur, having grown and scaled a successful franchise business. After 16 years Ruth decided to sell this business to allow her to work full time as a coach.With an extensive background in arts education and a self confessed personal development fanatic, she brings all this experience together to offer her clients transformational coaching. Her practice is made up of an eclectic mix of private clients, organisational and corporate work as well as supervision and coach skills training. Recently Ruth has also been working with new coaches, focusing on developing both themselves and their businesses. She is comfortable working in a high challenge, high trust relationship and has been described as a down to earth Northerner, a title she is more than happy with! She brings a sense of humour and a light touch to her work, which she sees as a valuable tool in the coaching relationship. Ruth firmly believes that the idea of play, fun and creativity can create an expansive and transformational coaching environment.

Apr 18, 2024 • 1h 56min
Episode #65: Chloë Garland – The Jam Donut Principle, Quarter-Life Crises and the Philosophy of Coaching
A quarter-life crisis is a period of intense soul searching that arrives when we are first confronted with the question of what to do with our lives.That’s according to Chloë Garland, the founder of QuarterLife, a company that works with individuals and organisations to help people in their 20s and 30s not just survive, but thrive.In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Chloë sheds light on the generational shifts that have prolonged adolescence, and how many of us encounter our first truly meaningful life choices in our mid or late 20s.Chloë tells host Alex Whitton how studying philosophy encouraged her to ponder life’s big questions, and how in her first coaching session – at age 22 – she was asked questions she had never considered before.That session left Chloë feeling ignited, and she describes the unusual experience of being called into coaching at a young age, knowing she had a gift for conversations but perhaps unaware of the profound impact she would have on the lives of young people she would meet along the way.In this episode, Chloë and Alex also talk about:• Living emergently, holding goals lightly, and embracing opportunities as they arise
• The jam donut principle of purpose and presence
• The power of metaphors and fables to simplify complex ideas
• Psychodemographics, and how to find your niche
• The value of shared experience in coaching, and the importance of owning your story
Chloë also shares some hugely valuable lessons on growing a coaching business, reflecting on investments, outsourcing, and how the fear of success can be as much of a hindrance as the fear of failure.For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-65-chloe-garland-the-jam-donut-principle-quarter-life-crises-and-the-philosophy-of-coaching

Apr 4, 2024 • 2h 3min
Episode #64: Alex Whitton – Balancing the Being and the Doing
The question of what makes a life well-lived is at the heart of Alex Whitton’s work, both as a coach and as the CEO of a charity that supports young people to realise their potential.In this episode of the Coach’s Journey Podcast, Alex tells Robbie about the story of his career so far, from studying at Oxford University, to his volunteer work with young people, to running a social enterprise and then deciding to become a coach.He describes how he emerged from a mindset of scarcity into one of abundance and opportunity as he came to recognise his strengths as a coach, which were cultivated through his work with Universify and the MOE Foundation.Alex shares insights into how he has built his coaching business alongside his work with Universify, and also how he is fulfilling his childhood ambition of becoming an author.He speaks about the fundamental importance of authenticity, vulnerability and creativity – principles that underpin his writing practice as well as his work as a coach and CEO.In this episode, Alex and Robbie also talk about:- Stories, memories and listening for insight- How coaching skills can empower young people throughout their lives- The power of someone taking your dreams seriously- Taking a bigger-picture view, in order to see your own abundance- A highly effective way to invite people to be coached and enhance your agency as a coachAlex also offers a refreshing approach to framing conversations with prospective clients, capturing the spirit of co-creation in a way that has universal appeal.For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-64-alex-whitton-balancing-the-being-and-the-doing

Mar 21, 2024 • 1h 57min
Episode #63: Jo Wright – We Can Make Things Better, But We Have To Do It Together
Jo Wright admits she had to get her dad’s permission before deciding on No More Sh*t Managers: Seven Steps to a Coaching Cultureas the title of her book.Thankfully he agreed and the book has made Jo a bestselling Amazon UK author as her message about the power of a coaching culture spreads to people and organisations around the world.In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Jo tells host Alex Swallow about the foundational experiences in early life that instilled her with a belief in the positive change that can happen when people have better conversations.She describes the life-changing conversations that have shaped her career, from managing a small team and noticing her flair for mentoring, to co-founding a coaching business and magazine that helped propel the industry forward by creating digital coaching solutions.Jo’s book is a love letter to humanity, and what shines through in this episode is her desire to help as many people as possible, by making sure that coaching – and the life-changing experiences it offers – is for everybody.Having embedded coaching cultures in some of the world’s biggest organisations, she is succeeding in her aim quite spectacularly.In this episode, Jo and Alex also talk about:The human development that takes place when training as a coachHow far we can go when we’re willing to be vulnerableThe fundamental importance of maintaining hope that things can be betterThe value we invest in ourselves and how our clients experience our personal growth and self-developmentJo also shares some invaluable advice about getting your work out into the world, generously opening up about the steps she took to reach her audience.For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-63-jo-wright-we-can-make-things-better-but-we-have-to-do-it-together

Mar 7, 2024 • 2h 3min
Episode #62: Alex Swallow – Life Is Better When We Choose
When Alex Swallow sees people doing great work, he experiences an almost evangelical urge to help bring others into connection with that work.His ability to do just that, and to boldly spread the reach of ideas, initiatives and projects worth championing, led him to become The Influence Expert – a coach and thought leader who helps individuals, companies and institutions to grow and deepen their impact on the world.Alex is also one of the new hosts of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, and this episode is a chance to hear about the journey he has been on, from being the first in his family to go to university, to becoming the chief executive of a national charity, and to writing his first book, How To Become an Influencer.The conversation between Alex and Robbie explores influence, authenticity, and the philosophies and principles that shape our view of the world and the work we do in it.Alex shares insights into how he has used social media to great effect in his career, and how he has carefully aligned himself with communities of people who are fuelling the next steps of his career as a coach, influencer and writer.In this episode, Alex and Robbie also talk about:The ‘golden threads’ in our experiences that lead us into the futureHow humans get trapped by simple stories, and how that can limit our view of the worldThe importance of agency, and how we can give it back to our clientsWhy, how and when you might be a better coach than even the most experienced practitioners in the industryFeedback, and how communities can enrich our practiceAlex also speaks about the new book he is collaborating on, which is tantalisingly focused on a particular method for getting clients.For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-62-alex-swallow-life-is-better-when-we-choose

Feb 22, 2024 • 2h 8min
Episode #61: Samiur Rahman – AI, Heyday and the Quest to Capture Meaningful Moments
This episode is sponsored by Heyday: https://heyday.xyz/New developments in artificial intelligence make the news headlines so often that many people – including coaches and their clients – are wondering just how AI advances will affect their jobs, their careers and their lives.In this sponsored episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, AI expert Samiur Rahman offers a rare insight into the way machine learning is shaping the future of coaching by fuelling the creation of tools that can save coaches time and improve their productivity.Samiur is the co-founder of Heyday, an AI thought partner that helps coaches and other knowledge workers by generating automatic session notes, detecting patterns in client conversations, and aggregating information about clients.In conversation with Robbie, Samiur opens up about the impact coaching has had on his journey through a career in which he has founded two start-ups and worked in others, and how he sought out the coaches who could bring out the very best in him.He also describes the development process that led to Heyday’s creation, which involved careful consultation with coaches and produced revelations about the way practitioners work and their most pressing needs.In this episode, Samiur and Robbie also talk about:The power of coaching for new managers and founders alikeHow the coaching we need changes at different stages of our careersThe ways AI and machine learning are likely to disrupt the world of work and the coaching industry (and the ways they aren’t)What strange and admirable qualities coacheshave, from the perspective of someone who has studied them as customers.Samiur also describes how Heyday, which offers a free two-week trial to all new sign-ups, has changed the lives and work of coaches who use it, and the impact upon their clients.For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-61-samiur-rahman-ai-heyday-and-the-quest-to-capture-meaningful-moments

Feb 15, 2024 • 1h 51min
Episode #60: Katie Harvey – Beyond the Binary Lies Balance
Despite being told that one day coaching would lead her to burn out, Katie Harvey has discovered that the opposite is true: coaching gives her energy.Now into her third decade as a coach, Katie has carefully honed a practice that enriches her life and allows her to express her core values through her work, and in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, she explains how she did it.Katie reflects on how coaching has helped her to move beyond a binary view of the world in order to sit more comfortably with seemingly conflicting truths, such life being both painful and beautiful, or people being both loveable and difficult.This is Katie’s third time as a guest on the podcast, and host Joey Owen helps her unpack the story of the years since her first appearance, over four years ago, and her second, which came at the height of the coronavirus pandemic.Alongside her work with individual clients and with leaders, and the coaching she delivers at Coach U and London Business School, we were excited to hear Katie is finally writing the book she speaks about in her first appearance on the podcast, which she hopes will bring her into more connection with coaches and help them achieve a sense of integration.In this episode, Katie and Joey also talk about:Optimising energy for coaching by paying attention to the four pillars of self-careSupervision, listening partners, and the tools and aids that help coaches develop space, time and improvements in their practiceThe ways in which coaching is shaping the future in educational spacesThe love that runs through our work, and the boundaries that allow us to work with loveHow to identify our core values, through the activities that express our essenceKatie also generously shares the changes she has made to her pricing structure and the rationale that has helped her reach a place of comfort and fulfilment.For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-60-katie-harvey-beyond-the-binary-lies-balance

Feb 1, 2024 • 2h 1min
Episode #59: Joey Owen – You Never Know When the Value of a Coaching Session Ends
Joey Owen is a coach whose unique gifts allow her to connect with the humanity of her clients.Joey ’s formative training in drama and in theatre for development instilled her with the ability to unlock people’s innate creativity and confidence. With that skill she has enriched the lives around the world, helping individuals, organisations and communities to thrive.Joey is part of the new team of hosts at The Coach’s Journey Podcast, but in this episode she answers Robbie’s questions about her remarkable life and career, describing the adventure-driven steps that led her from training in theatre for development to founding Freedom To Learn, a charity that improves access to education for children in India and Nepal.She describes how the foundational listening skills and work around confidence that helped her to transform communities in rural Asia now underpin her work as a coach, and how spiritual practices she developed in India allow her to connect deeply with people from all walks of life. In this episode, Joey and Robbie also talk about:How to access a deeper sense of connectedness and to work from the heartThe creative processes that we can use to build confidenceInsight Seminars, and the courses that can reveal our natural coaching abilitiesLead generation tools for new coaches to use when building their businessThe way our work ripples out from our clients, to the benefit of everyone around them (including us!)Joey also shares the daily rituals that keep her steady in her work and help her to develop a profound sense of empathy and connection with her clients.Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Mike Toller on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller - Robbie’s website www.robbieswale.com - Joey’s website www.joeyowencoaching.com- Freedom To Learn https://freedomtolearn.org.uk/ - Insight Seminars https://www.insightseminarsuk.com/ - Tom Flatau https://team-working.com- The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler https://richlitvin.com/book/ - Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum- Ben Carter https://www.bencartercoaching.com/- Strategic Intervention Coaching Certifications: https://rmtcenter.com/certification-programs/- Tony Robbins on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2014/10/15/money-master-the-game/- The Tony Robbins documentary Robbie mentioned: https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80102204- Lamda exams: https://www.lamda.ac.uk/lamda-exams/our-exams- The Choir guy from TV who was mentioned! Gareth Malone: https://www.garethmalone.com/- Forest Arts Centre: https://www.forest-arts.co.uk/- Forum Theatre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_theatre- Cardboard Citizens: https://cardboardcitizens.org.uk/- ERSF: https://ersf.org.uk- The December Episode where Joey talks about Indra's Net: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-56-introducing-the-new-hosts-ushering-in-the-future-of-the-coachs-journey- Indra's Net: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net- Joey's Bark Profile - https://www.bark.com/en/gb/company/joey-owen-coaching/RvZ2l/ - Chris Joseph on the Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph- SGI: https://sgi-uk.org/- SGI's introduction to chanting page: https://sgi-uk.org/Intro- Tina Turner's book, Happiness Becomes You: https://www.waterstones.com/book/happiness-becomes-you/tina-turner//9780008398637- I Heart https://iheartprinciples.com/- Henrietta Nelson on The Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-46-henrietta-nelson-nobody-else-can-put-a-feeling-in-you- The chanting audio on Apple Podcasts that Joey mentions: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/nam-myoho-renge-kyo/1391365531?i=139136BIOGRAPHY FROM JOEYJoey is a fully qualified Theatre for Development Practitioner (MA), Applied Drama and Community Coach (BA Hons) and LAMDA drama teacher (LLAM). Certified as a Strategic Intervention (SI) Coach with the Coaching Institute, she has 20 years experience in the education and development sectors as a facilitator and coach in the UK, Europe and South Asia. Alongside her private coaching practice she is also Programmes Director at Freedom to Learn, an NGO working in South Asia Nepal, improving access to and quality of education for children from vulnerable backgrounds.

Jan 18, 2024 • 2h 1min
Episode #58: Julie Starr – The World Works from the Inside Out
Coaching found Julie Starr without her looking for it, and she started to practice coaching before she knew what it was.As a project manager of large-scale change initiatives in big organisations, Julie was someone who people naturally turned to with problems – often complex, personal matters that required care and attention to their inner world.Julie acquired skills to enhance her ability to perform this role; tools like neuro-linguistic programming helped her to navigate one-to-one work, and also prepared her for the future that awaited her.At a time when coaching qualifications had yet to be developed, Julie began writing a book that would help people understand the one-to-one work she was doing. That book is The Coaching Manual and it is now in its fifth edition, having garnered critical acclaim from the likes of Sir John Whitmore, widely regarded as the founder of the coaching industry.Julie, now an executive coach, mentor, writer and speaker, has since written two more best-selling books on coaching as well as two works of fiction, all of which are inspired by her belief in the interdependency of people, and by her passionate enquiry into the nature of reality. In this episode, we also talk about:Not allowing models and frameworks to become limiting factors in our work as coachesThe power of non-attachment and the importance of working joyfullyStaying true to ourselves, and resisting the temptation to climb a ladder that is against somebody else’s wallHow to charge what you would be delighted with but not amazed byHow to pursue the pathways that make sense to you in a turbulent, disorienting worldWe also discuss the biggest challenge we face as coaches: the inner and outer work we have to do to get ourselves out of the way in conversations. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Neuro-linguistic programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming - Tony Robbins https://www.tonyrobbins.com/ - Richard Bandler and John Grinder https://www.pocketbook.co.uk/blog/2017/08/01/john-grinder-and-richard-bandler-nlp-neuro-linguistic-programming/- Milton Erickson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson- Effective Coaching by Myles Downey https://pocketwisdom.blog/2022/08/10/effective-coaching-by-myles-downey/ - Coaching for Performance by Sir John Whitmore https://www.performanceconsultants.com/coaching-for-performance-book - Co-active Coaching https://coactive.com/about/what-is-coactive - The GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model - Tim Gallwey https://www.performanceconsultants.com/tim-gallwey - Writing coach Marcia Yudkin https://www.yudkin.com/index.htm - Eloise Cook https://reedsy.com/eloise-cook- Kim Morgan on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan - The Institute of Self-Actualisation https://isaexperience.wordpress.com/ - Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum - The Journey https://home.thejourney.com/- Joe Dispenza https://drjoedispenza.com/- Julie’s first non-fiction book, From Magic to Memphis https://starrcoaching.co.uk/introducing-julies-debut-novel-magic-to-memphis/- Truth Keeper, book one, by Julie Starr https://www.linkedin.com/posts/juliestarrcoach_truth-keeper-book-one-julie-starr-activity-7076863795129655296-cjpg/

Jan 4, 2024 • 2h 1min
Episode #57: Neil Mackinnon – When You Step Into The Hallowed Ground Of Coaching, Show Up
Neil Mackinnon describes himself as a curious human, and his curiosity has guided him throughout a remarkable career in which he has been immersed in creative projects, surrounded by creative people, and focussed on creative potential.Crucially, he has also spent a great deal of his life listening and being truly present to what has occurred around him, and these qualities aided a sense of catharsis and newfound aliveness when he first experienced coaching.Neil is one of the new hosts of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, and in this episode he gets to the heart of why coaching has become such a prominent focus of a life in which he has worked as a professional musician, a creative producer for Europe’s largest centre for the arts, and now as a faculty member at the Academy of Executive Coaching.He explains how skilful coaches helped him access the power and potential of coaching to overcome profound challenges in his work, and how coaching appealed to his sense of adventure and his disposition as a man fascinated by all industries, all people, and all walks of life. In this episode, we also talk about:How to choose a coaching organisation to train withThe hidden messages that lie within our resistance to coachingBuilding autonomy through your locus of controlThe profound potency of core coaching competenciesCoaching as a relational business, in which your network really matters Neil, who has his own podcast called Creative Practice, also speaks to the deeper work of coaching, and the change that becomes possible when we find the courage to step into our shadow.For more information about Neil, visit https://neilmackinnon.net/For information about Robbie’s wider work, his writing or to buy his books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- The Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/ - The Coach’s Casebook by Kim Morgan and Geoff Watts https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/product/the-coachs-casebook-kim-morgan-geoff-watts-2015/ - Robbie appearing on Neil’s Creative Practice podcast https://creative-practice.net/2021/01/29/robbie-swale-coach/ - Kate Rees - https://www.katereescoaching.com/- A Job To Love by Alain de Botton https://www.theschooloflife.com/shop/a-job-to-love/ - Designing Your Life by Bill Burnett and Dave Evans https://designingyour.life/the-book/ - Richard Hawley - https://www.frycreative.uk/richard-hawley- Gaylene Gould on Neil’s podcast, Creative Practice https://creative-practice.net/2021/08/12/episode-13-gaylene-gould/- Link to the art behind Neil on the wall: Jet propulsion library, NASA https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/galleries/visions-of-the-future - Jude Kelly https://thewowfoundation.com/about-wow/about-jude-kelly - The WOW Foundation https://thewowfoundation.com/- RD 1st Coaching Training https://relationaldynamics1st.co.uk/- Theatre People, Greg Jauncey's cultural sector HR Consultancy https://www.theatrepeople.uk/who-are-we- Paul Williamson from The Ambassador Theatre Group https://www.associationforcoaching.com/members/?id=52110032- ABC Creative Music https://www.abcmusic.org.uk/- InterMusica https://www.intermusica.com/- Jerry Seinfeld on The Tim Ferris Show https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/485-jerry-seinfeld-a-comedy-legends-systems/id863897795?i=1000501727043 - The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/book/- Chilly's Water Bottles https://www.chillys.com/uk/categories/bottles- The quote Neil mentions at the end: in his book Reboot, Leadership and the Art of Growing Up, executive coach Jerry Colonna writes about this sort of radical self-inquiry: “I laugh loudly when folks suggest that this is some sort of yoga-inspired soft-bellied call to leadership. ‘Namaste my ass,’ I say with my Brooklyn-born chip firmly, squarely, and proudly on my shoulder. ‘Try entering the cave, walking to the dark recesses, and retrieving the treasure wa-a-a-y in the back. Then come tell me about being soft.’”BIOGRAPHY FROM NEILNeil is a London-based leadership and executive coach, accredited by the International Coaching Federation and the European Mentoring and Coaching Council. He works with ambitious individuals, leaders and entrepreneurs, across the cultural and creative industries, tech and beyond. He coaches people to fulfill their potential through helping them establish clarity of purpose, supporting personal growth and enabling valued professional contribution and sustained personal fulfilment.Following an early career as a professional musician Neil worked in various management and leaders roles in the cultural and creative sectors, including 12 years at London’s Southbank Centre, Europe’s largest centre for the arts. During his time there he discovered coaching through a transformational experience of working with a coach. This sparked a journey of discovery that led to his initial coach training and building coaching skills into his style of leadership.He now splits his time between his private coaching practice and a part time faculty position at the Academy of Executive Coaching, a leading global coaching organisation offering executive coach training, coaching solutions, executive coaching certification.


