
Work For Humans
Too often business leaders are forced to choose between the needs of their company and the needs of their employees. It’s a lose/lose scenario leaving managers burned out and workers seeking other opportunities. At Work for Humans, we believe work can be designed differently. When you design work like products people love, your company wins. Work becomes irresistible, employees passionately buy into their roles every day, and your company takes measurable strides towards your vision.
Latest episodes

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Jul 15, 2025 • 1h 14min
Time Poverty at Work: What It Costs and How to Reclaim Your Time | Ashley Whillans
Ashley Whillans, a behavioral scientist at Harvard Business School and author of 'Time Smart,' dives into the concept of time poverty and its impact on workplace well-being. She explains how an organization’s culture can limit time affluence and emphasizes that control over time often outweighs financial perks. The discussion tackles the myth of work-life balance, the importance of fostering creativity, and strategies to combat urgency culture, ultimately advocating for humane policies that prioritize individual needs and personal growth in the workplace.

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Jul 8, 2025 • 1h 6min
Transform Your Team: Redesigning Work for Clarity and Value | Stephanie Reuss & Victoria Stuart
Join Stephanie Reuss and Victoria Stuart, co-founders of Beamible, as they revolutionize the way we understand work. Stephanie is an award-winning entrepreneur with deep consulting expertise, while Victoria brings strategic insights from her tenure at Google. Together, they discuss why visibility into work processes is crucial for meaningful change and how AI is reshaping job design. They also dive into the human cost of misalignment, the power of transparency, and innovative tools like bubble charts to enhance productivity. Tune in for fresh ideas on optimizing team dynamics!

Jul 1, 2025 • 1h 6min
The Map to Fearless Growth: Moving Beyond Fear at Work and in Life | Amon Woulfe
Most of us don’t realize how much fear shapes how we live and show up at work. But Amon Woulfe sees it clearly. As the founder of 432Hz, he has spent over a decade helping leaders understand the deeper fears that silently drive behavior, limit growth, and erode connection. In this episode, Dart and Amon explore how fear shapes leadership, why change agents often burn out, and what it takes to shift from protection to presence. They also discuss the limits of personality tests, the illusion of control, and how tuning in can unlock more grounded, courageous leadership.Amon Woulfe is a leadership coach and founder of 432Hz, a company that blends psychology, performance, and transformation to help people lead with presence, clarity, and courage.In this episode, Dart and Amon discuss:- The nine psychological fears that shape leadership- How fear creates protective patterns that limit range- Why personality tests can become boxes instead of tools- The role of curiosity in emotional freedom- How leaders can move from performance to presence- What it means to be "in tune" as a human being- Why change agents burn out- And other topics…Amon Woulfe is the CEO of 432Hz and the creator of the world’s first holistic MAP of human development. He helps leaders overcome fear, unlock their potential, and grow from the inside out. As a coach and consultant, he has worked with executives, elite athletes, first responders, and military teams around the world. Amon’s mission is to help people live beyond fear so they can lead, grow, and create lasting change. He’s now focused on scaling this work to reach more people through human-centered technology.Resources Mentioned:432Hz: https://432hz.comConnect with Amon:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amonwoulfeWebsite: https://www.amonwoulfe.com/Work with Dart:Dart is the CEO and co-founder of the work design firm 11fold. Build work that makes employees feel alive, connected to their work, and focused on what’s most important to the business. Book a call at 11fold.com.

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Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 5min
Is Work Worth It? A Philosopher on Why We Work | Michael Cholbi
Michael Cholbi, a Professor of Philosophy at the University of Edinburgh, delves into the deep philosophical implications of work. He discusses the necessity behind 'work-positive' attitudes and how adaptive preferences shape our labor relationships. Cholbi examines the moral responsibilities of companies in designing work, challenging the notion of work as a mere obligation. The conversation also explores the potential for automation to liberate us from the traditional job structure, emphasizing the need for dignity and a reimagined future centered on human fulfillment.

Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 10min
Metacognition: The New Essential Skill for an AI World | Anthea Roberts
Anthea Roberts, the Founding CEO of Dragonfly Thinking and a Professor at the Australian National University, dives into the transformative power of metacognition in an AI-driven world. She discusses how Dragonfly Thinking encourages viewing challenges from multiple perspectives to enhance problem-solving. Anthea emphasizes that improving thought quality, not speed, is essential in decision-making. The conversation also covers the role of AI in clarifying complex issues and how metaphors shape organizational understanding, paving the way for better thinking tools.

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Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 1min
How to Design the Future On Purpose | Lisa Kay Solomon
Lisa Kay Solomon, a futurist and strategist at Stanford's d.school, dives into the art of design as a powerful tool for shaping the future. She discusses the importance of imagination in leadership, emotional engagement in strategy, and how scenario planning fosters agency. Solomon shares insights from a groundbreaking wellness retail project and emphasizes the necessity of long-term thinking for sustainable futures. Listeners will discover how design can inspire hope and transform personal and business models in today's complex world.

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Jun 3, 2025 • 1h 8min
Inside Nubank’s Bold Experiment: HR as a Product | Suzana Kubric & Jessica Matsumoto
Suzana Kubric, Chief People Officer at Nubank, and Jessica Matsumoto, Senior Director of People Experience, discuss their innovative approach to transforming HR into a product-driven function. They explore how viewing employees as internal customers enhances engagement and efficiency. The conversation delves into journey mapping, the importance of diverse roles like designers and PMs, and how initiatives like the 'Bureaucracy Buster' channel empower employees. They emphasize a continuous service mindset to revolutionize the overall employee experience.

May 27, 2025 • 60min
How Platforms Are Rewriting the Rules of Work | Andrei Hagiu
If work is a product, and employees are customers of that product, then every company is a multi-sided business, one that must serve both consumers and workers. According to platform economist Andrei Hagiu, how companies design that experience, how they structure control, pricing, and participation, matters more than we realize. He has spent his career studying the world’s most influential platforms, from Uber and Airbnb to Apple and Amazon. In this episode, Dart and Andrei explore what platform strategy can teach us about modern work design, why the “employee vs. contractor” debate is outdated, when it is efficient to give employees more control, and what “platform governance” means inside a company.Andrei Hagiu is a professor at Boston University’s Questrom School of Business and a leading expert on multi-sided platforms. His research focuses on the strategic decisions that shape platform businesses, including pricing, control, and design.In this episode, Dart and Andrei discuss:- What Uber, Airbnb, and Upwork get right—and where they fail workers- The difference between a multi-sided business and a true platform- Why “employee vs. contractor” is a false dichotomy- How outdated laws are holding back the future of work- When giving workers more control is smart—and when it’s not- What a Mexican cockfight reveals about platform pricing- How employers can learn from platforms to design better work- And other topics…Andrei Hagiu is a professor of Information Systems at Boston University’s Questrom School of Business and one of the world’s leading experts on multi-sided platforms. His research explores how platforms like Uber, Airbnb, and Apple make strategic decisions about pricing, control, and governance—and what those decisions mean for users, workers, and markets. Prior to BU, Andrei taught at MIT Sloan and Harvard Business School. He advises global companies on platform strategy and is the co-author of several foundational papers on platform economics. His work helps businesses, from tech startups to established firms, navigate the complex dynamics of serving multiple stakeholders at once.Resources Mentioned:Andrei Hagiu’s website: https://andreihagiu.comConnect with Andrei:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrei-hagiu-0646751/ Work with Dart:Dart is the CEO and co-founder of the work design firm 11fold. Build work that makes employees feel alive, connected to their work, and focused on what’s most important to the business. Book a call at 11fold.com.

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May 20, 2025 • 1h 1min
Built on Audacity: How to Be Bold at Work and Take Worth-It Risks | Anne Marie Anderson
In this engaging discussion, Anne Marie Anderson, a leadership coach and former sports broadcaster, shares her insights on cultivating audacity in the workplace. She outlines the four barriers to boldness and distinguishes between reckless decisions and worth-it risks. Anne emphasizes the importance of transforming fear and rejection into resilience, and how audacity can be developed as a habit. Listeners will gain valuable perspectives on creating supportive networks and the significance of aligning personal values with career ambitions.

May 13, 2025 • 1h 7min
The Surprising Power of Humility at Work | Simon Moss
When we talk about what makes a great leader, we tend to focus on confidence, decisiveness, and maybe even charisma. Less often do we talk about humility. And yet, humility, according to psychologist Dr. Simon Moss, may be the trait that unlocks the most growth, resilience, collaboration, and trust. In this episode, Dart and Simon talk about why humility isn’t the opposite of confidence, how future clarity increases self-awareness, and how organizations can be structured to reward groundedness instead of ego. Dr. Simon Moss is a psychologist and Dean of Graduate Research at the University of Wollongong. His research focuses on workplace behavior, ethical leadership, and the psychological conditions that promote wellbeing, performance, and integrity at work.In this episode, Dart and Simon discuss:- The difference between humility and insecurity- Why humble leaders often drive stronger performance- How clarity about the future shapes grounded leadership- The cultural conditions that reward narcissism- The relationship between time pressure and defensiveness- How to design humility into hiring, leadership, and culture- The mission of Radical Humility- And other topics…Dr. Simon Moss is a registered psychologist and the Dean of Graduate Research at the University of Wollongong. His research focuses on how organizational and government policies impact individual wellbeing, progress, and innovation. He has authored approximately 10 books and over 100 peer-reviewed papers, with a focus on workplace behavior, ethical leadership, and emotional intelligence.Simon is the founder of Radical Humility, a research initiative aimed at reducing narcissism in leadership and helping organizations cultivate grounded, human-centered cultures. His books include The Negative Side of Positive Thinking, Where Should I Work? and Emotional Intelligence: Journey to the Source.Resources Mentioned:Radical Humility: https://radical-humility.comConnect with Simon:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-moss-5334944/Email: simon_moss@uow.edu.au Work with Dart:Dart is the CEO and co-founder of the work design firm 11fold. Build work that makes employees feel alive, connected to their work, and focused on what’s most important to the business. Book a call at 11fold.com.